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[JM]

you could try it in a very small dose... it might help in a week or 2... maybe some sooner...
man.. sounds like you dont have a lot of options...

comfrey tea would work...

here's a database that should assist:

https://farmacyseeds.net/forums/sho...mulator-plants?highlight=comfrey+tea+nutrient

https://farmacyseeds.net/forums/sho...-Nutrient-List?highlight=comfrey+tea+nutrient

 

[Waira]

:slaps:JM, the links won't let us see!... looks like we have to be members and logged in,... (oughtta do that anyway!) ...How much to apply JM, like a powdered sugar dusting over the soil surface? ... LOL!-- indeed, options are minimal,... Would adding a little vinegar/lemon juice to the water be a good idea? :Sharing One: Thanks JM, much obliged good brother!

 

[Cannaficiando]

you could try it in a very small dose... it might help in a week or 2... maybe some sooner...
man.. sounds like you dont have a lot of options...

comfrey tea would work...

here's a database that should assist:

https://farmacyseeds.net/forums/sho...mulator-plants?highlight=comfrey+tea+nutrient

https://farmacyseeds.net/forums/sho...-Nutrient-List?highlight=comfrey+tea+nutrient

Thanks again, JM. That looks like something I could use in the future. I'll try watering in a little wood ash and see how it goes. As you say, I don't have a lot of options, but I'm used to growing that way. "Stirring"

And now for the update.

The weather has changed and RH can go as high as 95%, so the air-con is now on 24/7. Temperature is 25C and RH is around 50%, still a little high, but not too bad. No new vertical growth, thankfully, and the buds are developing nicely.

NL - Day 93



TD - Day 88



Group Shot:

 

[Waira]

:bone:"Bailers Booya" "Dancing Psiren"...aaahhh, yeah!! It's gettin' mighty sex-ay in there brother! And I like those RH/T numbers much better,....... MJ-lujiah!! -the stretch had ceased, praise the lard and pass the ketchup! :smoke: LOL! ....Canna', here's what farmer Oldster sent me:

Hi Waira, seems like it should work. Found this analysis. Basically 0-3-63. I would mix a bunch of ash with boiling water and allow it to sit and settle for 24 hours and then pour off the liquid. Potassium compounds are all highly soluble in water. Start with a teaspoon of the liquid per gallon of water. I think this would allow much better control of the amount the plants were getting and also help reduce some the heavy metals that are present vs. sprinkling on the soil. Have a good one

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[TD="width: 11%"]SiO2

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[TD="width: 11%"]SO3
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[TD="width: 11%"]K2O
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]CaO
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]TiO2

[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]V2O5
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]Cr2O3
[/TD]
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[TD="width: 11%"]% Composition
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[TD="width: 11%"]2.6
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]17.9
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]1.4
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]62.43
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]8.76
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]0.73
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[TD="width: 11%"]0.007
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]0.11
[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="width: 11%"]Compound
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]MnO
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]Fe2O3
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]NiO
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]CuO
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]BaO
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]ZnO
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]MoO3
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]Re2O7
[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="width: 11%"]% Composition
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]0.11
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]4.65
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]0.087
[/TD]
[TD="width: 11%"]0.089
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[TD="width: 11%"]0.48
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[TD="width: 11%"]0.12
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[TD="width: 11%"]0.3
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[TD="width: 11%"]0.1 [/TD]
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.... Wow, really K-rich stuff, ay? Better still, if your regular fert's are on the acidic side in soln., then the alkaline K soln. (to what degree is unknown, but given his mild dosing, probably acceptable) would be fine to blend with... Do you think you could get some litmus paper strips for pH? One would think that's a pretty innocent purchase, given it's many uses,... *** Lovin' what I'm seein' my friend,... I can't wait to see you buried in stinky-ass bud, complaining about the aromas during drying,... fumbling for explanations when friends come by!! :xlaugh:

 

[Cannaficiando]

G'day mate :tiphat:...many thanks for that, and please be sure to thank Oldster for me. :thumbs:

I've been reading up on making a K solution from ash - two litre drinks bottle, soak as per Oldster's instructions. then pour off floating carbon bits and pour off the solution, being careful not to disturb the particles at the bottom. That solution can then be boiled off in a non-aluminium pot to get a K- and Na-rich powder. But I'm not going to take that step. :no:

I don't have litmus, but can use a test reagent for my water filter instead.

Very happy with the RH/T numbers, the closest to optimal I've ever grown in. It feels good to be on the home stretch (no pun intended) now. Popcorn buds for Christmas, methinks. :banghead:

 

[Cannaficiando]

It's update time! "pher Wiggle"

First off, the wood ash to K solution experiment. I found an old, dried out coconut inland from the sea (lots of floaters arrive on he tide, soaked in saline so unsuitable). Hacked about a quarter of the coir off using the claw end of a hammer:



Burned it in a clay pot, let it cool and put it in a saucepan, added boiling water and let the mix settle for 24 hours, then poured it into a 1.5 litre water bottle:



Tested the mix using a reagent. It tested alkaline, but one drop of lime juice was all it took to make it slightly acidic. Have been adding it to the feeds at 1 tablespoon per 4 litres. Wish I knew how much K is in it, but any is better than none. Have cut the amount of orchid food in the feed by half, to half a gram per litre.

And now for the ladies:

NL - Day 100



TD - Day 95



Temperature in the grow room is a steady 25C, RH ranges from 45% at night to 55% daytime. "Munch..munch..munch

 

[The Elvis]

very nice!! :Sharing One:

 

[Waira]

:kusht:Canna', International Man of (fertilizing) Action!! :roflcry: Well done, saaahhhh,.... I'll direct Oldster this way, and see what he says! The mildness of the alkalinity might mean it's pretty mild solution,...
:foxy: :foxy: :Cool bud: YES!! That's what we're talkin' about brudda! The girls are workin' it proper now-"Bailers Booya"The bud is developing beautifully! I'm digging those early trichs too, mate-- a sure sign of very good things to come! Man, I'm so stoked for you! ....keep an eye on the tip burn on the TD, she may be getting a bit rich in there,... just make sure it's not advancing, if it happened a while ago... a case-in-point about how variable different strains are to feed concentrations.... :smoke: .... Canna, great job on servicing these hotties my friend!! ..need to whistle up some adoring, porn hungry public for this show! :Cheers:

 

[Cannaficiando]

...The mildness of the alkalinity might mean it's pretty mild solution,...

Cheers, Waira. :tiphat: I was thinking along those lines. In fact, I tried the K solution on a seedling I germinated from the local brickweed and it only caused a little burn. So I think one tablespoon per gallon is a little weak. Seeing as there's probably another four weeks of flowering to go, I may make another, stronger batch. No shortage of raw materials here. :brow:

...keep an eye on the tip burn on the TD, she may be getting a bit rich in there,...

That happened a while ago, when I first started the orchid food. The TD drinks at twice the rate of the NL, about two litres a day, so the uptake of nutes is presumably twice as fast. It's under control now - new leaves aren't affected.

...Canna, great job on servicing these hotties my friend!! ...

Thanks, mate. I really appreciate how you've gone out of your way to help. Couldn't have done it without you. :Sharing One:

 

[oldster]

Hi Canna, happy to see things working out for you. While the percent of K present in the ash is high the actual amount of K by weight in the amount of ash you would have produced is low so you are on the right track upping the dose I believe. Good continued luck with your grow

PS, when I originally gave Waira the 0-3-63 number I failed to take into account the weight of the oxygen in the K2O so it really is about 0-3-52 but still a great K source