Soak, Germination and Solo Cups to day 14
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@Jean-O
Recently started my spring run and need to get started with my journal before I get too far behind.
This run will be all JeanO’s products. I started out with the intention of running 2 seeds each of Grape Cheese and Root Beer Float. I wanted to run 1 in a 5gal grow bag and 1 in a 5gal GroBucket system and compare any differences.
Had some germination issues I’ll detail here in a bit but I ended up with 1 Root Beer Float (RBF) in a 5gal GroBucket, 2 Grape Cheese(GC)- 1 in a 5gal GroBucket and 1 in a 5gal fabric grow bag.
This will be a long first post to get up to speed . These are directly from my phone notes so it may seem like I’m rambling at times LOL (which I do a lot)
Let’s get this party started
Soak, Germination & Solo Cup
Pre-Soaked 2RBF & 2GC from 5/2/23 @ 1305 until 5/3/23 @ 0929 . Got busy yesterday evening and soaked longer than my usual 12 hours ( Roughly 20 hour soak)
Filled solo cups with Happy Frog, Pro Mix mixture
Pre soaked solo cups with water till runoff. Waited 5 minutes and pre soaked again till runoff with 1/8tsp Quillaja saponaria (QS) and water.
Moved soaked solo cups to dry catch pan so they wouldn’t be sitting in runoff water. Covered with 9oz clear solo cup to retain moisture, set on top of 4gal Square bucket to raise towards grow light.
Measured Lux @ 16.1klux 16,100 ? Too much for seedlings. Moved catch pan and solo cups to bottom of tent on black crates, 6” from floor of tent. FC-E3000 set to minimum on dial and 44” from solo cup domes. Inkbird set to 65%RH , ACI 4” set to 78F trigger and 70%RH trigger. Sealed tent and will recheck in 1 hour at 1100
Notes; Used #2 pencil with sharpened tip to make hole, depth was amount sharpener removed from pencil body, conservatively 3/4” depth as measured with ruler. Took weights with both scales for reference and redundancy check when saturated.
RBF #1 - seed did not sink, looked green in color. Wet weight 336/337g
RBF #2 - Seed sunk when tapped. Wet weight 327g
Grape Cheese #1 - Seed sunk on its own. Wet weight 321/322g
Grape Cheese #2 - Seed sunk on its own. Wet weight 330/331g
Here’s some photos of that process up to transplant day
After 15minutes tent temperature 69f. Cranked light to 75% intensity to warm tent and will recheck in one hour @ 1117
May need to add heat mat under catch pan if it won’t maintain steady 75+f.
5/7/23 @11:47am
GC#1 & RBF#2 both popped overnight. Nothing from other two yet. Soil may have been over watered from the start and removed domes on the two that haven’t popped and cranked light to 70% to raise heat and drop RH. Set RH control to 45% to let dry out. Set ACI Temp high limit to 78f. Will monitor.
Will weigh all 4 cups soon to compare to plant date.
My normal wet weight of solos is around 200g so if any problems arise then that’s what happened.
5/8/23 GC2 gave a little help (removing soil from surface with soft brush) may have planted too deep. Can see “elbow”, covered with dome and monitored.
RBF 1 still no show. Dig up and still whole seed. Cleaned, scuffed surface with emery board, re-Soaked for 6 hours and planted in same cup medium.
Set temp to 77f, RH to 70-75% covered with dome.
5/9/23 RBF2, GC1 removed domes for good. GC2 left on but day #1 popped soil. Looks healthy.
5/10/23 GC1&2 , RBF1 all growing well. Day 3 for all easier to track but technically 1 day less for GC2
Still nothing from RBF 1, dome off for now.
GC#2 is really lacking in growth but will continue on and ride it out for now. Will wait a little longer to transplant it.
5/15/23 Day #8
All 3
Cups around 180g. They don’t look very healthy and may be because I used more promix than happy frog but may be less happy frog.
Going to start feeding Gold Leaf nutrients today and see how they do.
Still nothing from RBF #1. It’s a dud and giving up on it.
Mixed 2qt rainwater with 2ml GL, 1ml (used inside of lid remnants and dissolved in mixture bucket) 5-1-1 .
1 pinch QS
Specs
PH 6.8
PPM 550
EC 1.1
GC1- 80ml 183g-263g
RBF2- 80ml 179g-256g
GC2- 80ml 186g- 263g
Dialed Light down to 25%, hoping I didn’t over burn them with light. Will
Monitor over next couple days and if need be I will drop tray back to floor level. Now reading 27.3kLux @ canopy.
Dropped RH control from 75 to 65%.
Not going to plant a 4th plant at this time due to 3 May fill this 2x4 more than needed.
@Jean-O
Recently started my spring run and need to get started with my journal before I get too far behind.
This run will be all JeanO’s products. I started out with the intention of running 2 seeds each of Grape Cheese and Root Beer Float. I wanted to run 1 in a 5gal grow bag and 1 in a 5gal GroBucket system and compare any differences.
Had some germination issues I’ll detail here in a bit but I ended up with 1 Root Beer Float (RBF) in a 5gal GroBucket, 2 Grape Cheese(GC)- 1 in a 5gal GroBucket and 1 in a 5gal fabric grow bag.
This will be a long first post to get up to speed . These are directly from my phone notes so it may seem like I’m rambling at times LOL (which I do a lot)
Let’s get this party started
Soak, Germination & Solo Cup
Pre-Soaked 2RBF & 2GC from 5/2/23 @ 1305 until 5/3/23 @ 0929 . Got busy yesterday evening and soaked longer than my usual 12 hours ( Roughly 20 hour soak)
Filled solo cups with Happy Frog, Pro Mix mixture
Pre soaked solo cups with water till runoff. Waited 5 minutes and pre soaked again till runoff with 1/8tsp Quillaja saponaria (QS) and water.
Moved soaked solo cups to dry catch pan so they wouldn’t be sitting in runoff water. Covered with 9oz clear solo cup to retain moisture, set on top of 4gal Square bucket to raise towards grow light.
Measured Lux @ 16.1klux 16,100 ? Too much for seedlings. Moved catch pan and solo cups to bottom of tent on black crates, 6” from floor of tent. FC-E3000 set to minimum on dial and 44” from solo cup domes. Inkbird set to 65%RH , ACI 4” set to 78F trigger and 70%RH trigger. Sealed tent and will recheck in 1 hour at 1100
Notes; Used #2 pencil with sharpened tip to make hole, depth was amount sharpener removed from pencil body, conservatively 3/4” depth as measured with ruler. Took weights with both scales for reference and redundancy check when saturated.
RBF #1 - seed did not sink, looked green in color. Wet weight 336/337g
RBF #2 - Seed sunk when tapped. Wet weight 327g
Grape Cheese #1 - Seed sunk on its own. Wet weight 321/322g
Grape Cheese #2 - Seed sunk on its own. Wet weight 330/331g
Here’s some photos of that process up to transplant day
After 15minutes tent temperature 69f. Cranked light to 75% intensity to warm tent and will recheck in one hour @ 1117
May need to add heat mat under catch pan if it won’t maintain steady 75+f.
5/7/23 @11:47am
GC#1 & RBF#2 both popped overnight. Nothing from other two yet. Soil may have been over watered from the start and removed domes on the two that haven’t popped and cranked light to 70% to raise heat and drop RH. Set RH control to 45% to let dry out. Set ACI Temp high limit to 78f. Will monitor.
Will weigh all 4 cups soon to compare to plant date.
My normal wet weight of solos is around 200g so if any problems arise then that’s what happened.
5/8/23 GC2 gave a little help (removing soil from surface with soft brush) may have planted too deep. Can see “elbow”, covered with dome and monitored.
RBF 1 still no show. Dig up and still whole seed. Cleaned, scuffed surface with emery board, re-Soaked for 6 hours and planted in same cup medium.
Set temp to 77f, RH to 70-75% covered with dome.
5/9/23 RBF2, GC1 removed domes for good. GC2 left on but day #1 popped soil. Looks healthy.
5/10/23 GC1&2 , RBF1 all growing well. Day 3 for all easier to track but technically 1 day less for GC2
Still nothing from RBF 1, dome off for now.
GC#2 is really lacking in growth but will continue on and ride it out for now. Will wait a little longer to transplant it.
5/15/23 Day #8
All 3
Cups around 180g. They don’t look very healthy and may be because I used more promix than happy frog but may be less happy frog.
Going to start feeding Gold Leaf nutrients today and see how they do.
Still nothing from RBF #1. It’s a dud and giving up on it.
Mixed 2qt rainwater with 2ml GL, 1ml (used inside of lid remnants and dissolved in mixture bucket) 5-1-1 .
1 pinch QS
Specs
PH 6.8
PPM 550
EC 1.1
GC1- 80ml 183g-263g
RBF2- 80ml 179g-256g
GC2- 80ml 186g- 263g
Dialed Light down to 25%, hoping I didn’t over burn them with light. Will
Monitor over next couple days and if need be I will drop tray back to floor level. Now reading 27.3kLux @ canopy.
Dropped RH control from 75 to 65%.
Not going to plant a 4th plant at this time due to 3 May fill this 2x4 more than needed.
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