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[Fermented_Fruitz]

My full size I turned into a worm bin for now is sure doing the trick! I let it dry out waaaay too much after last run so I could move it and 30hrs later went to water box and add food and found like over 1/2lb that had jumped out drain hole to escape! Added barley straw, old fan leafs and some build a soil gnarly barley ground up (ordered whole not milled) and now they happy happy! Pull cover off and they out the top of soil just hogging out!
Post escape.....

Today’s conditions more optimal!

Thanks to @MrOldBoy or @MOB both dem dudes were big help for steering me to this method!

 

[WildBill]

My full size I turned into a worm bin for now is sure doing the trick! I let it dry out waaaay too much after last run so I could move it and 30hrs later went to water box and add food and found like over 1/2lb that had jumped out drain hole to escape! Added barley straw, old fan leafs and some build a soil gnarly barley ground up (ordered whole not milled) and now they happy happy! Pull cover off and they out the top of soil just hogging out!
Post escape.....
View attachment 1238033 Today’s conditions more optimal!
View attachment 1238034 Thanks to @MrOldBoy or @MOB both dem dudes were big help for steering me to this method!

My worms loved my malted barley and canna smoothie. It was gone within days.

 

[Fermented_Fruitz]

I had some spinach leafs that were going to go bad and were kinda slimy already but they eating it like crazy! All over on side of box where I buried a trench of leafs! I haven’t had a successful bin before so not sure if I’m correct but think these are big clumps of castings and got mad worms inside!

Possibly mix of soil and castings and why it’s clumped up! Who knows....not I!

 

[MOB]

Too much moisture I suspect ..... but earthworm castings will clump for sure ..... one reason an Earthbox is not a long term bin ..... you’ll need to at some time, dump half anyways and start new and harvest all some castings ..... otherwise it works pretty good, just not long term like a flow thru bin would work - cause flow thru you are constantly harvesting castings ....

If worms start crawling up the sides and box gets a little too wet, simply dig a hole and put in dry coco and let bottom dry a few days ..... all will return back to normal and no more will try to escape ..... or dump half and reset ....

sometimes when we add food it’s at a higher moisture level than dirt and the wicking action / food input sometimes will overload box!

 

[MOB]

I don't know about that statement. That's one of the selling points of this product isb that it's hydrophilic and I've seen it work in my damn sandy azz soil. All of that can't be attributed to the humic acid either.

I'm gonna submit an question to one of the developmental engineers on this topic and see if he can show some real data.
If it does show to be hydrophilic, I'll start a thread and post their data.

Not to step on toes, but what we have here so far is "Bro-science".

edit..........In either the 50/50 mix of humic acid and biochar or their full biochar product will instantly start to break up when water hits it and is fully broken up within minutes. This would not occur in both products if they were weren't hydrophilic. I could see it happening in the mixed product as it could be attributed to the humic acid.

Stoner Science Experiment

What if i take a five gallon bucket and fill to top with char and take a second five gallon bucket and fill with peat - and water both with say 1.5 gallons and put lid on both and leave on a few days and open lid - will we find top of char damp - how far down will dampness be - same with peat .... I’m thinking peat would suck up every bit of water - char I’m not so sure about ......

only way to know for sure is to experiment but make experiment equal and do same time - conditions and see what happens - growing is one big experiment anyways .... what I wouldn’t do is have all char based soils - cause you can see what no char gets in this thread - give it a true test - I’m always learning and it is “more better” I want a piece but like you, I like proof.

 

[Fermented_Fruitz]

Maybe try that backwards and put the water in 1st and then your material and seal and come back to see how much moisture has been wicked up to surface to compare them! Not sure I’m stoned just sounds like it’d work!

 

[MOB]

Maybe try that backwards and put the water in 1st and then your material and seal and come back to see how much moisture has been wicked up to surface to compare them! Not sure I’m stoned just sounds like it’d work!

drop a pipe down so you can pour in that way after filled with material - if you put water first it will displace amount of material you add

 

[WildBill]

What if i take a five gallon bucket and fill to top with char and take a second five gallon bucket and fill with peat - and water both with say 1.5 gallons and put lid on both and leave on a few days and open lid - will we find top of char damp - how far down will dampness be - same with peat .... I’m thinking top of peat would suck up every bit of water - char I’m not so sure about ......

only way to know for sure is to experiment but make experiment equal and do same time - conditions and see what happens - growing is one big experiment anyways .... what I wouldn’t do is have all char - cause you can see what no char gets in this post - give it a true test - I’m always learning and it is “more better” I want a piece but like you, I like proof.

Hopefully I can get some data from the manufacturer.
I have to have proof also. LOL! It's the only way I know how to be.

 

[MOB]

Hopefully I can get some data from the manufacturer.
I have to have proof also. LOL! It's the only way I know how to be.

Keep me posted - but I wouldn’t put all my eggs in one basket for two reasons: #1 - You are looking at some sweet results in this thread #2 None of “approved EB soils” had biochar in them, and dang if I can find that link right now but was Posted in this thread .....

Try both ways the you we are will all know!

EDIT: Biochar seems to be acceptable, soil I am using has 5% bio char.

 

[Iriee Vibez]

Keep me posted - but I wouldn’t put all my eggs in one basket for two reasons: #1 - You are looking at some sweet results in this thread #2 None of “approved EB soils” had biochar in them, and dang if I can find that link right now but was Posted in this thread .....

Try both ways the you we are will all know!

Hey MOB, aren’t you using the BAS LOS - Oly as a base? If so,it certainly does have precharged Bio Char. I use their LOS 3.0 which also has bio char, so I can’t be that test case either.