Dialing In MEGA CROP for Auto's

[WildBill]

Thanks for the reply. What do you mean about the feed? Do I feed nutrients every watering or every other?

Others can better answer that. I'm feeding every other watering, but based on what the plant tells me and if I'm using a top dressing or watering with a bit of added molasses.
My GG4s showed me this past week that they had enough nitrogen with a wisp of leaf tip burn. So today I top dressed with worm castings, tiny bit of Humichar and some Thorvin Kelp(for the bloom I expect to see with in two weeks) and covered with Timothy hay to help conserve water and to keep the bio-flora active in the entire soil structure.

There are major underlying assumptions behind those statements and what is their definition of "Garden soil"?

We add microbes and fungi because the soils, coco and inert media we use are sanitized by heat killing all organisms or are sterile before we start. Many bagged products have these live microbes added before you buy it.

@WildBill I challenge you to do a side by side coco or rock wool grow, one with microbes, fungi, and bio-stimulants and one without. I have done this many years ago and I have never looked back. I would not even consider growing anything indoors or outside without bio-stimulants. I add Mykos to my rock wool at transplant. I added microbes many years ago to my outdoor gardens and because they never dry out. I do not need to reinoculate them.

Ok.....I get what they were trying to say.

Nope! I'm not gonna use either media! LOL!

 

[pop22]

I believe he is talking about outdoor gardens, and probably native soil vs raised beds. Container gardening is a different situation, but it would seem to me that once a population of microbes, etc, was established, it would maintain it's self and not need repeated applications. As to whether or not microlife would benefit inert media or coco, I would think that it would depend on what your using for nutrients and how strong you make your solution and what PH you run it at.as to whether or nor they would survive. On the other hand, root rot has no problem in high salts solution so why shouldn't other microbes etc survive? I think this is an area that needs more study

There are major underlying assumptions behind those statements and what is their definition of "Garden soil"?

We add microbes and fungi because the soils, coco and inert media we use are sanitized by heat killing all organisms or are sterile before we start. Many bagged products have these live microbes added before you buy it.

@WildBill I challenge you to do a side by side coco or rock wool grow, one with microbes, fungi, and bio-stimulants and one without. I have done this many years ago and I have never looked back. I would not even consider growing anything indoors or outside without bio-stimulants. I add Mykos to my rock wool at transplant. I added microbes many years ago to my outdoor gardens and because they never dry out. I do not need to reinoculate them.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

I believe he is talking about outdoor gardens, and probably native soil vs raised beds. Container gardening is a different situation, but it would seem to me that once a population of microbes, etc, was established, it would maintain it's self and not need repeated applications. As to whether or not microlife would benefit inert media or coco, I would think that it would depend on what your using for nutrients and how strong you make your solution and what PH you run it at.as to whether or nor they would survive. On the other hand, root rot has no problem in high salts solution so why shouldn't other microbes etc survive? I think this is an area that needs more study

I have done sterile hydro with limited success. It was about 8 years ago when I first added Botinicare HydroGuard to a DWC in trouble. HydroGuard is living microbes. The results saved a crop with bad root rot. I surmised at that point that microbes can and do work in hydro. I started adding all manor of living microbes. At one point I was growing in a reservoir of "Tea" . That did not work out so well as the mixture became so viscous it would not aerate and was a big fat mess.

Yes, if innoculated soil is kept wet and fed the microbes remain and multiply on their own.

 

[pop22]

I run MC in soil and have for almost three years now. I don't water between feedings, each time they get the solution. This plant has been feed MC solution since it was ten days old. I think she's about 118 days now. She's never has so much as a spot on a leaf. I feed at 500 -535 ppms every feeding. I have never had a problem with salts build up and I recycle the soil. It's never flushed. If you want to water between feedings you can, I don't think it makes a lot of difference either way. 3-4 liters per feeding is good. In containers 5 gallons or larger, I use a moister meter, they are cheap. It will tell you if your over or under watering especially if, like me, you don't water to runoff. It's the only way I can get my 20 gallon pot watered evenly,i check 6-8 places around the pot.

I used to grow in dwc hydro. Now I am growing with biobizz light mix soil as suggested by autobeast. Instead of using AN nutes I decided to try mega crop cuz I have been intrigued by it from this site. So I'm new to growing soil plants. I know not to over water but I dont want to under water neither. Autobeast tutorial how to grow autos he says he feeds 3 liters to each plant in 5 gal grow bags every 3 days. But to feed with plain water in between feedings. So does that mean feed each plant nutrients with 3 liters of water when soil is dry. Then 3 days later feed just 3 liters of water. Then 3 days later 3 liters of water mixed nutes again? I'm using part a and b mega crop. Help with soil watering with mega crop please?

 

[GeorgeCloney]

This is one reason why I water to run off.
As @pop22 says, salt build up is truely minor when we're feeding in the 500ppm range.
My reasoning is that run off carrys oxygen down to the roots and especially the microbes.
The food industry capitalize on this knowledge.
So by filling bags of food with nitrogen.
No oxygen no bacteria.
No decomposition.
When I was a soldier in the 80's.
We consumed rations from the 50's just to recycle perfectly good food.

I've had several experiences with waterlogged soil.
This is one of the worst scenarios to contend with.

 

[jdm61]

C Rats!!!!!!!!!

 

[WildBill]

C Rats!!!!!!!!!

I wuz waiting fer that! LOL! I found a bunch in one of my spaces aboard my last command. How in the hell and WHY was there ancient C-rats on a ship who's keel was laid in 1960 I'll never know!
Did I open some? Yeah, sure did......with my "John Wayne".

 

[jdm61]

They were still making those C rations up through the late 70s early 80s when the MRE’s came out. It was the old K rations that they stopped making in the 60s I think. The sea rations were around damn near as long as the old tuck in your shirt green fatigues were. I was messing around with ROTC up through around 79 or soAnd was around other folks who were in the service after that. The first time I ever had a pair of camouflage fatigues issued to me was in fall of 85 at Fort sill when I was in the reserves. That’s also when they had switched over to the light green plant a shirt, but I have never worn one of those because I would always have been wearing a cadet uniform of some type for class anywherAnd was around other folks who were in the service after that. The first time I ever had a pair of camouflage fatigues issued to me was in fall of 85 at Fort sill when I was in the reserves. That’s also when they had switched over to the light green plant a shirt, but I have never worn one of those because I would always have been wearing the cadet uniform of my two military school, high school and first two years of college. I hate to see rats at places like Fort Knox and out on field exercises in college. They were pretty bad, but I preferred them to the early MRE’s If for no other reason then they were easier to work with

 

[jdm61]

I think Siri duplicated some of what I wrote

 

[GeorgeCloney]

I think Siri duplicated some of what I wrote

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