Dialing In MEGA CROP for Auto's

I'm not worried about none of that water quality. Brita filtered water all the way this grow. Lol
Standard activated carbon – either coconut shell or coal-based – does an excellent job at filtering free chlorine, but does very little to remove chloramine, sometimes referred to as “combined chlorine.” Contrary to a common belief, standard activated carbon does NOT remove the chlorine from a chloramine molecule. Just sayin'

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What I find interesting is, that every article about removing chloramine from water never mentions specifically that vitamin C works on chloramine. Yes it works on chlorine. I'm hunting for science that says it works with chloramine also but at this point I've not found anything. Maybe it does but my very limited understanding of chemistry makes me wonder if it would be more difficult to break the bonds of a compound of chlorine, as the whole purpose of combining it with amonia is to make a more stable compound. Does anyone have info on this? I found one government study but it makes no mention of chloramine. An example of why I question this. Sugar can be broken down easily. Splenda is sugar with an extra carbon molecule bound to it, making it inert. So inert that it is now being found in our waterways and water systems. Now Chloramine certainly is not an inert compound but it is not the same as chlorine. I make no claim I an right I just am curious as to the correct answer to this.

The flip side is, there is actually not enough chlorine or chloramine in tap water to have any effect on plants, yes, science supports this. I'd be more worried about high levels of Iron etc. A good filter system might be a better investment.


The small amount of chlorine used to sanitize municipal water will dissipate on its own in a very short time and is really of no concern to us growers. It is when Ammonia is added in with the chlorine to make a more persistent sanitizer called chloramines. It is chloramines that need vitamin C treatment. In soil even chloramine is not a huge factor. In hydro you should remove it.

Chloramines Removal

You are looking for ascorbic acid - vitamin C. The store brand is usually the cheapest without other stuff added in. 50mg per gallon will treat water with 3.8 PPM of chloramines.

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Standard activated carbon – either coconut shell or coal-based – does an excellent job at filtering free chlorine, but does very little to remove chloramine, sometimes referred to as “combined chlorine.” Contrary to a common belief, standard activated carbon does NOT remove the chlorine from a chloramine molecule. Just sayin'

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I checked my water quality report and my town dont use Chloramine I dont believe. I seen chlorine but didnt see chloramine in there.
 
I checked my water quality report and my town dont use Chloramine I dont believe. I seen chlorine but didnt see chloramine in there.
Just called the water supply company and they don't use it either. But the fuggers must use a bunch of chlorine! Jesus it stinks!
I MISS MY WELL WATER!
 
I live in upper michigan. We have decent quality tap water. But I still filter it before drinking. I wont drink water from any faucet unless its filtered. But poor men like me, Brita all the way. Lol left my ro system at old house when I moved. I feed my plants Brita filtered water over tap to remove some of the junk before I feed my plants with it. Better than nothing I feel for now. I'll get a better water filter down the road when money allows but for now its brita.
 
The flip side is, there is actually not enough chlorine or chloramine in tap water to have any effect on plants, yes, science supports this. I'd be more worried about high levels of Iron etc. A good filter system might be a better investment.
Well, maybe not directly to the plant, but it has to have an effect on microbe flora. Is it enough to destroy it is the question.
 
I checked my water quality report and my town dont use Chloramine I dont believe. I seen chlorine but didnt see chloramine in there.
You need to look for ammonia in the sanitation section.
What I find interesting is, that every article about removing chloramine from water never mentions specifically that vitamin C works on chloramine. Yes it works on chlorine. I'm hunting for science that says it works with chloramine also but at this point I've not found anything. Maybe it does but my very limited understanding of chemistry makes me wonder if it would be more difficult to break the bonds of a compound of chlorine, as the whole purpose of combining it with amonia is to make a more stable compound. Does anyone have info on this? I found one government study but it makes no mention of chloramine. An example of why I question this. Sugar can be broken down easily. Splenda is sugar with an extra carbon molecule bound to it, making it inert. So inert that it is now being found in our waterways and water systems. Now Chloramine certainly is not an inert compound but it is not the same as chlorine. I make no claim I an right I just am curious as to the correct answer to this.

The flip side is, there is actually not enough chlorine or chloramine in tap water to have any effect on plants, yes, science supports this. I'd be more worried about high levels of Iron etc. A good filter system might be a better investment.
I suppose I should have said you can remove monochloramine with a very expensive carbon filter made for the purpose but really ascorbic acid is just cheaper. So many sites just call it chlorine as a group to include mono, di and trichloramines. Catalytic carbon is activated carbon that has gone through additional treatment to enhance carbon’s capacity to facilitate chemical changes. Chemical reactions require a catalyst. The surface area of catalytic carbon has been structurally enhanced and altered to provide a space for chemical reactions to occur. Catalytic carbon still possesses the remarkable adsorption properties of activated carbon, but it has been supercharged to target other contaminants as well. This includes chloramines. When chloramines come in contact with the catalytic carbon, a chemical reaction catalyzes a separation of the ammonia and the chlorine and converts them into harmless compounds in the water.

an RO system must be designed for chloramine removal not all systems will work.

It also looks like Humic acid will remove it as well as ascorbic acid but I have not investigated that yet.

This is an excerpt from the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission:

QUESTIONS REGARDING CHLORINE AND CHLORAMINE REMOVAL FROM WATER Updated March 2015 Q: Is it necessary to remove disinfectants from drinking water in a home setting? A: No, chlorinated and chloraminated water is safe for people and animals to drink, and for all other general uses including bathing. EPA believes that drinking water disinfected with monochloramine that meets regulatory standards is safe to use and it does not need to be removed. (USEPA, 2009) The removal of either chlorine or chloramine from drinking water is not necessary for public health but some customers may elect to do so for common household purposes based on personal preference. Chloramine is not a persistent disinfectant and decomposes easily from a chemistry point of view (Valentine et al, 1998) but for water supply purposes chloramine is stable and it takes days to dissipate in the absence of substances exerting chloramine demand (Wilczak et al., 2003b). Therefore, it is not practical to remove chloramine by letting an open container of water stand because it may take days for chloramine to dissipate. However, chloramine is very easily and almost instantaneously removed by preparing a cup of tea or coffee, preparing food (e.g., making a soup with a chicken stock). Adding fruit to a water pitcher (e.g., slicing peeled orange into a 1-gal water pitcher) will neutralize chloramine within 30 minutes. If desired, chloramine and ammonia can be completely removed from the water by boiling; however, it will take 20 minutes of gentle boil to do that. Just a short boil of water to prepare tea or coffee removed about 30% of chloramine. Conversely, chlorine was not as consistently removed by boiling in SFPUC tests. If desired, both chlorine and chloramine can be removed for drinking water purposes by an activated carbon filter point of use device that can be installed on a kitchen faucet. If desired, both chlorine and chloramine can be removed for bathing purposes by dissolving Vitamin C in the bath water (1000 mg Vitamin C tablet will neutralize chloramine in an average bathtub). SFPUC does not recommend that customers remove disinfectants from drinking water. Customers desiring to do so should consult with their physician.

The entire article is here:


What I find interesting is, that every article about removing chloramine from water never mentions specifically that vitamin C works on chloramine. Yes it works on chlorine. I'm hunting for science that says it works with chloramine also but at this point I've not found anything. Maybe it does but my very limited understanding of chemistry makes me wonder if it would be more difficult to break the bonds of a compound of chlorine, as the whole purpose of combining it with amonia is to make a more stable compound. Does anyone have info on this? I found one government study but it makes no mention of chloramine. An example of why I question this. Sugar can be broken down easily. Splenda is sugar with an extra carbon molecule bound to it, making it inert. So inert that it is now being found in our waterways and water systems. Now Chloramine certainly is not an inert compound but it is not the same as chlorine. I make no claim I an right I just am curious as to the correct answer to this.

The flip side is, there is actually not enough chlorine or chloramine in tap water to have any effect on plants, yes, science supports this. I'd be more worried about high levels of Iron etc. A good filter system might be a better investment.
You just have to look with the right nomenclature to find this stuff. Chloramination is the word to describe water treated with chlorine and ammonia.



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Well, maybe not directly to the plant, but it has to have an effect on microbe flora. Is it enough to destroy it is the question.
My friend who got me into growing used to grow in hydro dwc and same how I started with GH flora trio. He just used Lucas formula but I used th grow in the equation. He used tap water no filtering and his system worked just fine. I used ro water when I grew dwc though.
 
My friend who got me into growing used to grow in hydro dwc and same how I started with GH flora trio. He just used Lucas formula but I used the grow in the equation. He used tap water no filtering and his system worked just fine. I used ro water when I grew dwc though.
It is questionable in soil if chlorine or chloramines treated water can kill organisms. The literature goes both ways. In all forms of hydro except sterile hydro, I would remove them. Remember coco is hydro. I say this more out of an abundance of caution. Hydro is very unforgiving and this just removes one variable.

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I used to grow in dwc hydro. Now I am growing with biobizz light mix soil as suggested by autobeast. Instead of using AN nutes I decided to try mega crop cuz I have been intrigued by it from this site. So I'm new to growing soil plants. I know not to over water but I dont want to under water neither. Autobeast tutorial how to grow autos he says he feeds 3 liters to each plant in 5 gal grow bags every 3 days. But to feed with plain water in between feedings. So does that mean feed each plant nutrients with 3 liters of water when soil is dry. Then 3 days later feed just 3 liters of water. Then 3 days later 3 liters of water mixed nutes again? I'm using part a and b mega crop. Help with soil watering with mega crop please?
 
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