Mephisto Genetics Canna-Cheese 1:1 medicinal automatics by mephisto

[MissUniverse]

The problem was that I was feeding it full strength maxigro by general hydroponics every watering and watered daily. I havent been paying the attention I should have to my plants due to a lot of real life stuff going on. The issue isnt due to the soil as I had a successful harvest from miraclegro and a tropical wizard, it was how much perlite I was using. And yeah I should be watering towards the edges more.
As far as breaking up the rootball, when gently removing the soil from the rootball and allowing it to be washed without loss of the roots it forces the plant to seek out new soil so its root structure goes in to the new soil instead of not growing a root structure in the new soil. since I am encouraging it to be completely removed from it's old environment and from the soil it was in before and I didnt want any potential soil being moved over. It's a difference of growing styles. And I'm used to transplanting fruit trees where that's a common practice and dosent cause issues. So we will see what happens

To further note the soil was an issue with too much perlite causing issues. I'm sure I'll have more I note as I go back through my post. Sorry for saying that part wrong

 

[slowandeasy]

The problem was that I was feeding it full strength maxigro by general hydroponics every watering and watered daily. I havent been paying the attention I should have to my plants due to a lot of real life stuff going on. The issue isnt due to the soil as I had a successful harvest from miraclegro and a tropical wizard, it was how much perlite I was using. And yeah I should be watering towards the edges more.
As far as breaking up the rootball, when gently removing the soil from the rootball and allowing it to be washed without loss of the roots it forces the plant to seek out new soil so its root structure goes in to the new soil instead of not growing a root structure in the new soil. since I am encouraging it to be completely removed from it's old environment and from the soil it was in before and I didnt want any potential soil being moved over. It's a difference of growing styles. And I'm used to transplanting fruit trees where that's a common practice and dosent cause issues. So we will see what happens

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. We are not planting fruit trees and manipulating the root structure on Autos is a good way to stunt them. Roots on Autos are even different than on Photos. Its not needed at all on an auto seedling and the risk is not worth it IMO. There is such a thing as too much love and I will be honest with you...I think you may over love your plants at times. Its hard not to, I completely understand! Sometimes less is more. Watering your plants daily is actually fine, its your method and heavy hand that needs to be adjusted. I am confident that most of your problem is actually your amount of water and location you feed. This is how I suggest you water in the future. Try it on a single plant if you dont feel comfortable trying it out. Take a 9oz cup. Not a Solo cup!! Fill said 9oz cup and SLOWLY water around the Outside of your pot. Wait until close to 24 hours later and do the same thing. Now pay attention to the COLOR of the soil near the stem. Is it drying out or remaining moist? If it is staying moist, keep using only 1 cup around the edge. Once it starts to dry out near the stem daily, use 2 of the 9oz cups. Watering the first one on the outside and the next cup water just in front of the previous cup. Imagine a reverse Bullseye being made with moisture. Working from the outside to the innner part of the pot. NOT inward first....EVER. Roots in soil remain too moist when you water the stem area vs outer edge. Dont feel bad or think I am being a jerk. It is the single most common error that can easily be fixed. Wheather you had too much perlite or not, I am not sure? But I promise if you follow my lead on wateting, you will have better results with root development 100% of the time and overwatering is MUCH more difficult my way. Build your way up to a Solo cup to water once the plant grows, but less amounts around the outside will do you much bettet from the start. I have personally started hundreds of seeds and thousands of clones and use clear cups to prove my watering technique. When you start seeds or clones in cups you BOTTOM dunk the cups and avoid top watering for 2 reasons. 1st roots seek moisture, watering from the top will slow the root development down because they are wet always. 2ndly the cup will remain more moist than if bottom dunking. Roots will be very thin and slow growth. If you bottom dunk lightly, the roots are thick and white, with rapid growth. Apply this knowledge to all transplants and you will see a difference in rate of growth and much better root development. Goos luck, slow

 

[MissUniverse]

Been using slow's method of watering the last few days on my plants, so I figure let's see if I can improve my performance. Gotta fail to continue to improve.

Heres the new plant. She *technically* had day 1 late last night but I'm counting today as day 1

Heres the one I transplanted

Hey @stan_mephisti I was actually going to plant another canna-cheese today but I was looking at the seed and as I was inspecting it, it was cracked open right at the seam. So not sure if you need to inspect seeds, I can pm you with pics. It looked like one of those one in a million seeds that just didnt hold up.

Any way, so I only have 1 seed left instead of two so I want to wait a bit to make sure this one is right before planting another since I want to dwc it.

So I didn plant a NCH to do a side by side comparison of nch to canna-cheese and so I can do a pretty fair evaluation of its parent to its offspring genetic wise.

 

[slowandeasy]

Been using slow's method of watering the last few days on my plants, so I figure let's see if I can improve my performance. Gotta fail to continue to improve.

Heres the new plant. She *technically* had day 1 late last night but I'm counting today as day 1

Heres the one I transplanted

Hey @stan_mephisti I was actually going to plant another canna-cheese today but I was looking at the seed and as I was inspecting it, it was cracked open right at the seam. So not sure if you need to inspect seeds, I can pm you with pics. It looked like one of those one in a million seeds that just didnt hold up.

Any way, so I only have 1 seed left instead of two so I want to wait a bit to make sure this one is right before planting another since I want to dwc it.

So I didn plant a NCH to do a side by side comparison of nch to canna-cheese and so I can do a pretty fair evaluation of its parent to its offspring genetic wise.

Good luck, that plant in the pic has slight N claw starting. Water the outside on that new seedling when you do water. At this stage you can try every other day if its too moist. Less is more. You want the roots to seek moisture. Watering on the outsides will help you develope a better root system, but use your judgement on frequency of watering. Once every 2 days with 9oz cup of water around outside edge for the first 10 days or so. By then you should be able to do every day waterings around the edge. If you opt to do daily waterings earlier or they stay too moist at first, use 5oz instead. Good luck, slow

 

[MissUniverse]

Today is day 3 of the third of the canna cheese and I'm not counting days quite yet on the transplanted one till she kicks to flower. Shes got major n tox from the transplant so I flushed the soil a bit because I figure the soil is probably hot.

 

[MissUniverse]

My older replanted cannacheese is having serious nitrogen toxicity issues. I haven't fed her since transplant. so yesterday I flushed her for 10 minutes at 3gal water per minutes at a pH of 6.5 no feed. I fed today with maxibloom at 1 tsp/gal, calmag 3ml/gal, southern ag biofungicide 3ml, ph'd to 6.5 and fed half a gallon slowly over the day. I won't feed her more for a bit but she still will need phosphorus, potassium, and all the micronutrients, so the flush should have reset it. So she'll grow out of it I think.
The baby at day 7 is directly in front of her

Day 7 baby

 

[MissUniverse]

So I figured out my problem this whole time and I feel really silly. I have my air pots bottoms too low and upside down and the roots are growing right through the bottom and not pruning so they aren't pruning right. Now I feel like an idiot. I'll show some pics because damn there's a lot of roots. Not sure if I can turn it around but I'll be raising it up for more air flow.
This is a major facepalm moment

 

[MissUniverse]

Just to show, here's what the bottom of the pot on the big transplanted one looks like. In the time I've just watered it, did one flush and gave it one small feed it collected a ton of salts. This is roots organics soil too mind you and only 1 feeding it also has salt build up.

As you can see the tent is dirty so I'm waiting for my tent to dry out after I scrubbed it down well with a bleach and water solution too. I'm also raising them all off the ground too.

So any suggestions that can help are appreciated.

 

[MissUniverse]

Here's today day, 12. She got a feeding of 1 tsp/gal maxigro 1 tsp/gal azos, 1tap/gal mykos wp[NOT 2XTSP AZOS LIKE ORIGINALLY STATED, I USED BOTH], 1tsp/gal southern ag biofungicide, 5 ml/gal botanicare Cal mag ph'd to 6.5.
Run off was 6.4 which is right in range of the input solution. A bit of staining on the bottom of the pot from old salts staining the pot and dirt build up is present from not being able to scrub off the bottom of the pot. There are a few small feeder roots coming out the bottom, but the plant is up on a raised surface.
Day 12

Here's some pics from day 7 till yesterday

 

[MissUniverse]

Well I had fun this morning, I was checking my baby and my damned air pot broke. Luckily it was the bottom that cracked in half while I was lifting her up and I caught it before the root mass became an issue. I was able to stabilize her and move her to a new pot retaining the majority of the root ball. I did notice that the soil was absolutely soaking wet and it wasn't watered for 3 days. All the soil that fell out was packed as hard as a rock, the soil on the side of the pot was jammed so hard I had to pick it out and it was about an inch thick with no roots, the bottom was packed about an inch thick with soil packed too tightly. I definitely packed it in hard as when I went back and checked another pot from a plant I had left in the tent just to see how long it took to dry out and didn't water for the week but had prepped. It too was jammed and no aeration.