Indoor A builders edge in grow room construction. Dream room

Yeah they are huge. They were thriving and living life till they hit flower mode. Since this is a synthetic nutrient run I was scared of salt build up so I always watered about 2 gallons each per 5 gallon pot. Plenty of run off. Now they are drying up in 36 hours time so I initially did feed-water-feed. They seemed to like it so I tried to increase feeding to where I'm at now which is feed every 36 hours. Even that I have increased to 100% the recommended and not one has a burnt tip but showing signs of deficiencies.


Just left the grow shop and the owner suggested taking the lenses off the cobs. I'm surely overdoing it with 18 lensed Cree cobs, 500w of Cree LEDs, a ceramic metal halide and 2 Mars 600's It could possibly be all from light stress. I am also doing co2 at 1600ppm.

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Lower hidden areas are all fine. Shorter plants are all fine. They are still progressing rather well in flowering mode. Buds are forming and fattening up.

I have 13 plants in now a 4.5x15 foot area. Poor things are struggling since they are all bunched together.

I appreciate the feedback and always open for more suggestions.
 
Gotta love good companies like Amare technologies. Sent an email and within minutes had a reply from the owner.


Hi James,

At 30" with lenses you're over their light saturation point, resulting in light stress, which looks like calmag deficiency. Cannabis has a light saturation point of ~1500umol/sec/m2 with Equatorial sativas up to ~1750umol/sec/m2. Raise it to ~42-48", depending on your coverage requirement or better yet, take the lenses off and run it @28" for a couple of days and let them recover and then drop it to 21". Both Eclipses will deliver more par intensity than a 1000w HPS, especially with lenses, it's substantially more within their recommended footprint so treat it accordingly, sir. Another note is our spectrum is very well-balanced like natural sunlight and will not bleach plants at any distance, giving you no warning like the blurple spectrum with bleaching so just be careful. You've just experience the level of intensity we deliver in real life:)

Cheers!

Victor
 
Could be a few things. They look hungry for nitrogen, possibly from a lockout? Also look to be not getting enough calcium due to the rust spotting. Check your pH, should be in the 6.5 range if you're in soil and 5.8 for coco. There's definitely a fine window to cal/mag uptake it seems.

I AM NO EXPERT, this is just my opinion.


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That's what I think aswell bro
 
Yeah they are huge. They were thriving and living life till they hit flower mode. Since this is a synthetic nutrient run I was scared of salt build up so I always watered about 2 gallons each per 5 gallon pot. Plenty of run off. Now they are drying up in 36 hours time so I initially did feed-water-feed. They seemed to like it so I tried to increase feeding to where I'm at now which is feed every 36 hours. Even that I have increased to 100% the recommended and not one has a burnt tip but showing signs of deficiencies.


Just left the grow shop and the owner suggested taking the lenses off the cobs. I'm surely overdoing it with 18 lensed Cree cobs, 500w of Cree LEDs, a ceramic metal halide and 2 Mars 600's It could possibly be all from light stress. I am also doing co2 at 1600ppm.

View attachment 583578 View attachment 583579 View attachment 583580 Lower hidden areas are all fine. Shorter plants are all fine. They are still progressing rather well in flowering mode. Buds are forming and fattening up.

I have 13 plants in now a 4.5x15 foot area. Poor things are struggling since they are all bunched together.

I appreciate the feedback and always open for more suggestions.
I don't think it's the light I could be wrong but honestly give them a good flush
 
I don't think it's the light I could be wrong but honestly give them a good flush
I don't think it's the lights fault. But I do think it's both my fault for the light heights and some sort of nutrient lockout. With the lenses I had the cobs way to close. Some plants were taller than others so that's where the main problem was. Shorter plants were praying while recently the taller ones went to shit. Since I did the flush and raised the lights with the lenses removed I think it should clear me from further damage.
 
First picture is the little change. I had to take 6 plants from the veg room to make space. Luckily I had those old Mars lights. Also rigged up 2 t5's on the sides.
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This is the veg room as of now. -6 plants made it manageable. Day 27 for the little ones and day 55 for the big ones.
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Rooms getting tight. Lol my drying cabinet looks real small next to all these plants.
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Busy afternoon! Trying my best to organize the little space I have. Wouldn't figure this was an oversized room a couple weeks ago.
 

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I added a lot more lighting to help with the confined space. It seems to help but the killer is not being able to tie the plants down to expose more leaves. I think I'll Just have to focus on a smaller number of larger plants over a large number of small plants.
Hey man! First off, amazing setup/ladies! But could you maybe tie them down to the sides of your pots/buckets? Or place some hooks in a 1"×1" wood strip on the wall, below the canopy and time them down that way? Just thinking out loud lol sorry.
 
Hey man! First off, amazing setup/ladies! But could you maybe tie them down to the sides of your pots/buckets? Or place some hooks in a 1"×1" wood strip on the wall, below the canopy and time them down that way? Just thinking out loud lol sorry.
Just got the rest of the pics to pull up lol, disregard that! Wow. Bad ass lights too! Sorry for chiming in before I completely got to see your pics.
 
Hey man! First off, amazing setup/ladies! But could you maybe tie them down to the sides of your pots/buckets? Or place some hooks in a 1"×1" wood strip on the wall, below the canopy and time them down that way? Just thinking out loud lol sorry.
I did some major lst earlier on. These girls woulda been 5' tall if I didn't. During the pre flower stretch some did get away from me but it's controllable now. Luckily 3 lights allows them to be at 3 different heights. Moving pots sucks but for the most part they are all like sized.


Might be in my head but things already appear to be better. I think the changes are for the better:thumbsup:
 
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