I agree 100% on all accounts i am very often constrewed as a sarcastic prick (well that is true) but anyway alot gets rinsed as conflict as it is hard to gain our social q's that we rely on in society more than we usually realize from a screen and often i am misunderstood most of the time
i am not a skeptic at heart i just always want to know how something works also and people brush it as skeptical of everything so understood
really no hard feelings after intent was understood
it is also hard to condense the pages of things that you can say in the time it takes to type it out so ideas get washed away alot of times
You and your experience are welcomed here
as a good start do you mind sharing some of the specific downfalls ou saw as i have not really had the time to post general observations i have recorded and the other plants in the mix
my latest downfall i mentioned breifly in another thread , after defoliating a plant i was about to run this test/side by side on , it didnt take the watering well , wasnt enough plant to use the water quickly enough so the roots drowned , i chalk that up to my own mistake though as i should have realized it , i had recently transplanted them into thier final pots for going to 12/12 and the plant wasnt much past getting its feet planted firmly
in the past i noticed my buds sometimes apeared bigger , but they also were leafier and with that airier of course , final weight turned out less then the expected and well known/grown clones previously , what i found is when the plants wanted to replace the missing leaves some of it was in form of leaves in the bud , im sure defoliating during veg wouldnt cause it , but for me in early flower it seemed to , that takes me back to when i first stopped defoliating , i argued with the guy that not doing it is crazy , basically the same thing as today but roles reversed , as the plants grew i didnt see a noticable difference good or bad , it came to final product and weight for me to see and understand the guy i had been arguing with was on to something
over the years ive re-tried experimenting with it , only in veg , veg and early flowering , only late flowering , honestly though my best results are always letting the plant grow natural , that could however be because of the way we discussed my setup , even back in the beginning when we all grew with the comercial flouro tubes , i always had em going down the walls as well as above the plants , and ive always painted my floors and or even put mylar on them (the mylar is slipery when wet so be careful)
my very best results are lst , opening em up , ill kink the branches right over , sometimes ive snapped branches right off by accident , they become clones lol , i only recently started bending/kinking though , in the past it was tieing em down , i find bending way better for a couple reasons , the knuckle it creates adds strength and size once healed , and 2 : i dont have strings to trip over or catch my watering jug causing me to drop it on plants lol , my strings kinda acted like a scrog but only kinda
but even when bending , i leave the leaves alone , maybe a bit of tucking at times but nothing more
peace
