NEWS What are the charges for illegal grows canada

[Beerhunter CDN]

I have a hard time believing that the government consulted anyone with cannabis growing knowledge or experience prior to making the 4 plant limit. The laws stink of ignorance when it comes to consumption and growing.

 

[F.N.]

I'm to old to care or change. I will just keep on keeping on. There will be some court cases on people being caught with more then four plants they will have deep pockets fight it and it will change to 20 plants. That is my prediction. OH YEAH

 

[jasperdooauto]

so from what i understand the 4 seeds have to be purchased through a licensed provider at the "OCS" ..so to me the 4 good seeds i picked out of a blueberry from the ocs i have growing out back are good =)

 

[jeremyb616]

Was better off illegal. Although I am biased, but the job creation was good. Although now people just get hit harder from dealing as a example because now its tax money being stolen directly from the government, they don't like that to much. Heard obscene numbers but I never looked into it myself. Seeds never used to be illegal to buy until the new laws came to be. which is laughable to say the least that legalization brought more prohibition

 

[JohnEMad]

I was interested in your comment about "illegal genetics" so I looked into it bit. It seems there is a claus in there about seeds. These are the home growing laws:

Cultivation, propagation and harvesting — 18 years of age or older
(4) Unless authorized under this Act, it is prohibited for an individual who is 18 years of age or older to cultivate, propagate or harvest, or to offer to cultivate, propagate or harvest,

(a) a cannabis plant that is from a seed or plant material that they know is illicit cannabis; or

(b) more than four cannabis plants at any one time in their dwelling-house.

Marginal note:Cultivation, propagation and harvesting — dwelling-house limit
(5) Unless authorized under this Act, if two or more individuals who are 18 years of age or older are ordinarily resident in the same dwelling-house, it is prohibited for any of those individuals to cultivate, propagate or harvest any cannabis plants if doing so results in there being more than four such plants being cultivated, propagated or harvested at any one time in the dwelling-house.

Marginal note:Cultivation, propagation and harvesting — 18 years of age or older — without authorization
(6) Unless authorized under this Act, it is prohibited for an individual who is 18 years of age or older

(a) to cultivate, propagate or harvest any cannabis plant at a place that is not their dwelling-house or to offer to do so; or

(b) to cultivate, propagate or harvest any living thing, other than a cannabis plant, from which cannabis may be extracted or otherwise obtained, or to offer to do so.

Now, I don't know how they could possibly prove that your genetics are from "illicit cannabis", but it certainly makes me wonder about my seed collection...maybe I should start breeding! Also, it's never, to my knowledge, been illegal in Canada to buy, sell or possess cannabis seeds, so if it was never previously illegal, then the seeds didn't come from an illicit source...at least in my opinion.

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When it 1st went legal all the growshops, head shops etc were allowed to sell seeds. That quickly changed but the box had been opened so u r right, how can they prove anything unless they intercept a shipment or some such thing.

 

[Siluru]

When it 1st went legal all the growshops, head shops etc were allowed to sell seeds. That quickly changed but the box had been opened so u r right, how can they prove anything unless they intercept a shipment or some such thing.

Interesting, I can't claim to know what legal loopholes were temporarily opened by court rulings, but the old controlled substances act definitely listed viable cannabis seeds as illegal. That said, seed vendors were ignored by law enforcement for the most part.
It's inappropriate for the OCS to offer dozens and dozens of bud varieties but only offer 1 seed variety for home growers. Not that I want to buy from them, but it encourages most to shop in the grey market which is still illicit. Seeds should be completely decriminalized. Who do you complain to? the OCS, ombudsman, MPP? Who's going to listen? Thankfully stupid laws tend to sort themselves out with time.

 

[GeorgeCloney]

I have a medical license to grow.
It was issued in September. (exp. Sept. 2020)
In reviewing the conditions of the license.
Nowhere does it say I have to procure seeds from a Canadian government source.
Kinna like making a U turn, you can do so, unless we tell you , you cannot.

Where exactly in the Cannabis act does it say YOU HAVE TO buy seed ffrom the government?
Also, does this apply to recreational, or medical as myself?

Ok , so for the medical folks, the Customs and immigration people will have objections. (Canada Post etc.).
This leads to a new idea.
Canada Post sell (smellproof) bags at the post office.
If you review the list of products that you CANNOT send through the mail that smells, it kinna limits the bags being sold for pot transport only.

Here in Quebec, up until about a month ago.
Like Manitoba, we COULD NOT grow for any reason , including medical ( never inforced).
Then someone challenged that law. The provincial judge presiding called the provincial law UNCONSTITUTIONAL according to Canadian law.
So basically, we've been able to grow pot without the menace of our local provincial police wasting time hunting down small growers.

Until this becomes provincial law.
Quebec will fine its citizens $200 for growing cannabis at your residence.
Unless of course you got a medical license, in which case,...the knuckle heads at the govenment don't want to go to court and be seen in the media.

Moral of the story, if you live in MB or Qc.,...go online do the skype thing with a medical practionner,...pay your $200 and grow you 20-400 plants.

My license grants me 15 outside and 55 inside.
YES I DID SAY 15 OUTSIDE AND 55 INSIDE,....there again,...nowhere does the license say,....and/or...

So its 70 plants in all for about $200 of consulting fees, wait 2 or 3 monthes....and then you get the license.
The license is good from the moment you get it to grow legal, up to the expiry date.
At which point you need to send in a new request to Ottawa for a renewal.
If you family doctor is an asshole, he won't wanna sign.
Then it costs you $200 to $1000 to get a license.
Or go onlince, legit, signed with legal Canadian medical license for authorisation....and Bob is your uncle.

By the way, the license gives you particular rights for storage, grow sites...etc..etc.
You are, however not allowed to share your harvest.....unless the recipient also has a grow license).
Read between the lines!!!

GeorgeCloney

 

[Steviestash]

I have a medical license to grow.
It was issued in September. (exp. Sept. 2020)
In reviewing the conditions of the license.
Nowhere does it say I have to procure seeds from a Canadian government source.
Kinna like making a U turn, you can do so, unless we tell you , you cannot.

Where exactly in the Cannabis act does it say YOU HAVE TO buy seed ffrom the government?
Also, does this apply to recreational, or medical as myself?

Ok , so for the medical folks, the Customs and immigration people will have objections. (Canada Post etc.).
This leads to a new idea.
Canada Post sell (smellproof) bags at the post office.
If you review the list of products that you CANNOT send through the mail that smells, it kinna limits the bags being sold for pot transport only.

Here in Quebec, up until about a month ago.
Like Manitoba, we COULD NOT grow for any reason , including medical ( never inforced).
Then someone challenged that law. The provincial judge presiding called the provincial law UNCONSTITUTIONAL according to Canadian law.
So basically, we've been able to grow pot without the menace of our local provincial police wasting time hunting down small growers.

Until this becomes provincial law.
Quebec will fine its citizens $200 for growing cannabis at your residence.
Unless of course you got a medical license, in which case,...the knuckle heads at the govenment don't want to go to court and be seen in the media.

Moral of the story, if you live in MB or Qc.,...go online do the skype thing with a medical practionner,...pay your $200 and grow you 20-400 plants.

My license grants me 15 outside and 55 inside.
YES I DID SAY 15 OUTSIDE AND 55 INSIDE,....there again,...nowhere does the license say,....and/or...

So its 70 plants in all for about $200 of consulting fees, wait 2 or 3 monthes....and then you get the license.
The license is good from the moment you get it to grow legal, up to the expiry date.
At which point you need to send in a new request to Ottawa for a renewal.
If you family doctor is an asshole, he won't wanna sign.
Then it costs you $200 to $1000 to get a license.
Or go onlince, legit, signed with legal Canadian medical license for authorisation....and Bob is your uncle.

By the way, the license gives you particular rights for storage, grow sites...etc..etc.
You are, however not allowed to share your harvest.....unless the recipient also has a grow license).
Read between the lines!!!

GeorgeCloney

In Ontario you don't have to pay to go see the doctor to get the grow license or prescription but anything you buy has to be from the OCS store or lp if your medical I think the limit is 5 plants per gram have your prescription and it's 5 grams Max per day or something like that

 

[Steviestash]

Once it became legal I didn't even bother anymore with renewing my grow license

 

[GeorgeCloney]

For the rest of my country (speaking as a vet), this is a common sense call.
If you plan on growing with any reserve through winter a medical license is the way to go , in order to grow outside.
What has me a little bewidlered, is that it's typical of the Quebec government to be assholes and do things different than the rest of the country.
Whats the take on the Manitoba government?...unless you're competing with THEIR OWN GROWS?

This is in fact food for thought.
it's my understanding from what I've found on the web that, pollen will travel several miles outside.
If we all have plantations outside, we may in fact contaminate the legal grow op with our pollen.
I can understand that concern from that perspective.
Then just let us know so!! right?