No help from me :baked::baked:. I always think buyer beware. If it sounds too good then perhaps it is just making noise not sense. How much "better" would want to ladies to become? Have a good night Mr Brother.
Yeah I'm very leery of things too. It's gotta be proven and that pretty much only trust myself and very few others.

I'm all about the quality. I'm not really concerned about the quantity.
 
I used under canopy lights in my current grow and really only saw a small increase in yield. I ran them the entire time at full power and still got very little.

I have moved them to mid canopy on the back wall of my grow room and really feel lighting in this area is more effective.

My lights are quality from AC Infinity.
 
I used under canopy lights in my current grow and really only saw a small increase in yield. I ran them the entire time at full power and still got very little.

I have moved them to mid canopy on the back wall of my grow room and really feel lighting in this area is more effective.

My lights are quality from AC Infinity.
I appreciate your input!!:pass:
 
Yeah, I don't think I can let this go! :face: :biggrin::haha::haha::haha::haha:

I have been definitely rabbit holing the hell out of this subject! I have been doing lots of comparisons between the viable candidates.

I do think that these are ALL overpriced for the wattage.

This one is well constructed and it conforms to IP66. All the other ones that I've been seeing only conform to IP65. And this one will actually fit in a 4x4 tent!!!! It's just over 44 inches long. Everyone else says theirs is 4 foot.

I'm gonna ask if any of the @Cultivators have any sort of Experience with this company or this type of lighting in question at all.

I know it's gonna be a bit of a learning curve to get it dialed in, but I think it's something that is worth delving into and experimenting with.


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@420autoflower uses under canopy lighting when he can spare the wattage and has great results, but he doesnt use anything specially designed for under canopy lighting just extra regular light boards when he can spare them as far as i understand.
 
Yeah, I don't think I can let this go! :face: :biggrin::haha::haha::haha::haha:

I have been definitely rabbit holing the hell out of this subject! I have been doing lots of comparisons between the viable candidates.

I do think that these are ALL overpriced for the wattage.

This one is well constructed and it conforms to IP66. All the other ones that I've been seeing only conform to IP65. And this one will actually fit in a 4x4 tent!!!! It's just over 44
I think you might be over thinking this. Light companies aren't reinventing the wheel any time a new product comes out. They are all using the same selection of diodes from a handful of companies such as Samsung. They throw their own "special layout" onto a pcb, and slap a heatsink and driver on it. I don't even think they do their own board stuffing. The only innovation is when Samsung comes out with a new more efficient diode. I think the better question to ask is how well do the underside of leaves absorb light and how much benefit per $ you will get from it.

Things to consider:
- Diode type and population count
- Heatsink quality. How well it's going to be able to absorb the heat
- What driver are they using.
 
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I run under canopy lighting from mid flower to harvest and it definitely increases my yields.


I'm sure it would in your case, your plants are so tightly packed that you have full shade under them.

The return/kwh for under lighting likely will be less for plants with more open structures.
 
I think you might be over thinking this. Light companies aren't reinventing the wheel any time a new product comes out. They are all using the same selection of diodes from a handful of companies such as Samsung. They throw their own "special layout" onto a pcb, and slap a heatsink and driver on it. I don't even think they do their own board stuffing. The only innovation is when Samsung comes out with a new more efficient diode. I think the better question to ask is how well do the underside of leaves absorb light and how much benefit per $ you will get from it.

Things to consider:
- Diode type and population count
- Heatsink quality. How well it's going to be able to absorb the heat
- What driver are they using.
Yeah, I can easily understand where someone would think that I'm over thinking things, but I just can't overcome my upbringing and background. :biggrin: :face::haha: While in the military, The environment that I worked in had a myriad of things that could kill you if you didn't operate them properly. Or I worked on and repaired vessels where lives depended on the work, not to mention the loss of multi-billion dollars pieces of equipment. One wrong thing done could conceivably bring down a submarine with loss of all life and equipment. In civilian life I was basically in the same dangerous environments, but I was the inspector. Everything had to conform to a either a Set engineering standard or comply with law. Again, safety being the main concern .

A leopard just can't change its spots!:funny::funny::funny:

For me, the IP66 compliance is very key. It satisfies my need for it to be safe. That also allows me to not have to make drastic changes In how I run the tent and grow the girls. I can foliar feed or IPM without a whole lot of worry or change things.

I've already taken all your points into consideration for this type of lighting. For this type of lighting, a Bar style is definitely the most efficient method of delivery. Given the size restraints, it has a good diode count and I like the spectrum. Optimally, it would be done with the new Evo diodes, but they are Samsung and Osram. It uses the aluminum body for its heat sink . The driver is integrated and really that's pretty much the only option with this light mainly being for commercial operations. I did see some that had separate drivers, but everything else was cheesy.
With that smooth REAL glass top it does offer ease of cleaning and there will be no clouding.

I already have one improvement to their light with the home grower in mind. Given the dimensions of the light and the tent that most people will be using this in, the end electrical connections need to be a 90 degree. Even though the light fixture will easily fit in a 4X4, it will still be a pretty tight fit hooked up electrically on both ends. A 90 degree connector on both the power supply and daisy chain connector will significantly reduce the stress that could be imposed upon that connection . That would entail them to Offer three different cords for the home grower...... the Daisy chain connector and both the dimmer and non dimmer power supply cords.

I have a few more questions to ask the guy before I make my final decision, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna purchase this. I'm also going to try to see if I can get this guy to make a presence here. We can always use more vendors here and this could be an avenue for him to get more into the home growing market............... Which is ever increasing with legalization.

I definitely appreciate your input and with your examples, we can all see that under Canopy lighting does work!:headbang::headbang::headbang::pass:
 
Moved my lights onto the back wall and feel like they will be more effective in my space. I will still consider adding more lights, but these lights didn’t seem to be strong enough to really make a difference.

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Moved my lights onto the back wall and feel like they will be more effective in my space. I will still consider adding more lights, but these lights didn’t seem to be strong enough to really make a difference.

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Maybe not a whole lot of juice there?

When I get this I'm definitely going to play with my meter and see what it's actually producing.
 
Maybe not a whole lot of juice there?

When I get this I'm definitely going to play with my meter and see what it's actually producing.
Yes, this AC Infinity unit only uses 50 Watts, that unit is much more powerful, that might be the difference. Using full light boards underneath want something I wanted. My room is really bright and efficient as it is. I was looking to add another 50 to 100W of additional lighting to try and fatten up those lower buds.

If you want to add more power and don’t care about electricity or heat, then I would do it👍
 
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