Transplanting Autos Causes Stress. Myth?

[bartlancertp]

So that the plant comes out easily, I cut the bottom out of a cup, then cut up one side. I then put this inside another cup and plant. At transplant time, I am careful not to break the rootball.

I would guess many newbies break the root ball during transplant which causes the problems. Done properly I see no problem with transplanting.

 

[Tycho]

ok. Here's my write up on the pots that'll air prune your seedlings.
It's a little hobo but I think you'll get the idea.

Walk around Home depot and you'll find the material for about $10.
The calking tube is 10oz. There is a 28oz tube that would make a 3"x5" pot, but I didn't try that. I might.

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I used a small sharp knife to cut it.

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Just joking. Cut your wife's broom and she'll kick you in the nuts.

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I used a small sharp knife to cut it.
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You should pre-drill the dowel so it doesn't split when you put the screw in.

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All together now.

Thin enough to see light.

Pieces

There's no earth in this pot, but once there is, it holds together pretty well.


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Use a bargain paper towel because they're thinner.

- Roll the paper towel on the bottom of the tube leaving 2" sticking out.
- Twist the 2 inches at the bottom to close the tube, and use the plunger to tap it down..
- Fill the caulking tube with soil and pack lightly with the plunger.
- With the plunger still inside, lift the caulking tube.
Voila. One pot that will biodegrade quickly.
See the video below.

I got this idea from this guy who uses toilet paper, but his pots are only about an inch tall, and 1.5 inches wide. The caulking tube will give you a 2"x5" pot.


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[Tycho]

So that the plant comes out easily, I cut the bottom out of a cup, then cut up one side. I then put this inside another cup and plant. At transplant time, I am careful not to break the rootball.

I would guess many newbies break the root ball during transplant which causes the problems. Done properly I see no problem with transplanting.

If I only had to do a bit, I'd do that. But I'm doing 300 Photos and 200 Autos. Guerilla style, so I need a good way to transport bulk and get them in the ground quick. In and Out. Like a rabbit.

I'm putting the pots in a tray, but on hardware cloth that's suspended 1" off the bottom so the roots can air prune.

I'm using a cordless drill and a 12" bulb auger to prep 12"x12" holes a couple weeks before they go out to the field. I want to let the animals get used to it.

 

[pop22]

Planting in the final container is fine, if your only growing one or two plants at a time. but many of us have continuous grows and need to have seedlings ready to replace harvested plants.
Also, you can't have it both ways, either the plant is damaged or it isn't. I transplant that has grown 1/2" in the first 12 hours of transplanting obviously suffered no shock. I've never had a stunted or sickly transplant with my method, canna or veggie. Timing and careful handling are key. Never try to transplant when the starter pot is dry, make sure the soil is moist so that it will hold together. And with canna at least, the whole stress thing is overblown, look what we do to adult plants to increase harvest, why doesn't that kind of stress ruin the plants? You want stress on a seedling? The whole idea of "tiering" is one that will stress and damage your plants as often as not. Your forcing the roots to pack themselves out through the small opening in the bottom of the cup before expanding, kind of like the stomach bands that restrict your ability to eat large quantities of food... your doing the same thing to your plant.
If your transplants suffered, then maybe it was your technique, I stand by my transplanting technique as being effective and useful. Now thats not to say, some species just won't tolerate it, but that requires specific knowledge of what your growing.

Transplanting may stunt your growth but how would you ever know? Just because they don't die does not mean it was fully successful. I simply do not have enough farm space to do a truly scientific cannabis test. Extrapolating my 40+ years experiences with growing organic vegetables and cutting flowers I can state that any kind of transplanting reduces yields compared to seeds planted directly into the garden. Seeds started in greenhouses to get a jump on spring just do not produce as well. I am sure there are other factors besides "transplanting" working here. The question is this: why can't you just plant the seed in the container it will spend its whole life in? I do. My current grow is an exception to that practice as I have never grown in rockwool blocks so I followed GroDan's directions to the letter. The transplanting process is very root friendly but still is a transplant operation. I had 100% germination success with their method. Once again a pretty small sample to mean much. I am very happy with the Hugo blocks and the huge nutrient savings with the drip irrigation system ~ 70% over DWC.

 

[Tycho]

It's not so much that stress "hurts" the plant, it's more recovering with such a short lifecycle that can hurt the yields.

My old method of pulling them out of their pot and transplanting them outdoors used to stunt or hermie half of them.

 

[SOOTDAWG]

I grow in coco coir/myco powder-granules/dry fert mix........I feel Autos have no problem being transplanted as long as they go into to the same growing medium that they were germinated into.......for me..that first mix is coco/myco powder/dry fert

 

[Proph]

Anything can stress a plant. The grow environment can cause more stress than a simple transplant. I've traspanted all types of ways at all kinds of times. If done right, at the right time, and with stable genetics, there's no problem or difference. Stressing a plant is part of breeder testing. If the strain was worked and tested properly before being released, there should be no worries when transplanting. I use these Root Maker 1 gal air pruning pots and then transplant from there whenever I'm ready, usually prior to, or just as preflowers start showing.

 

[Ledist]

Hello first post in here commune Many hundred hours of reading and being quiet
I transplant mine 2 times. First in jiffy pots (biodegradable) , Then 3L pot, and i get them perfect 100% rate sucess transplanted 4/5 G final pots. Before i did last part that same cutting pot tehniq, but if soil is right (moisture) and roots begin to come out airholes (TIMING) is right then you sucess. Be gentle and dont let bright light shine on rootball.
@SOOTDAWG
I see in your picture wrong transplant condition.
Never dont let bright light to any of roots. Think like a root
IF U get them all all day long stand there in direct sun in black smart pots, it's not so good idea, but that i dont know surely.

 

[islandgrower]

I transplant all the time with no negative effects. When running regular seeds I start them in half gallon juice containers so I don't have to dedicate a full 3 gallon pot to what might be a male. Once they sex I then transplant to the bigger pots. With fem seeds I usually start them in their final pot. My current grow was a combo of fems and regs. By about 25 days when I transplanted the regs in the juice containers were significantly bigger than the fems in the 3 gallon pots. The fems eventually caught up but I have to say I was surprised at how much bigger the regs were.

Regular seeds may grow faster because of hybrid vigour which fem seeds don't have. Just saying .

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[SOOTDAWG]

Hello first post in here commune Many hundred hours of reading and being quiet
I transplant mine 2 times. First in jiffy pots (biodegradable) , Then 3L pot, and i get them perfect 100% rate sucess transplanted 4/5 G final pots. Before i did last part that same cutting pot tehniq, but if soil is right (moisture) and roots begin to come out airholes (TIMING) is right then you sucess. Be gentle and dont let bright light shine on rootball.
@SOOTDAWG
I see in your picture wrong transplant condition.
Never dont let bright light to any of roots. Think like a root
IF U get them all all day long stand there in direct sun in black smart pots, it's not so good idea, but that i dont know surely.

thanks for looking out-----and speak of the devil--what came today...my new brown ones.....