Photoperiod Teetee goes to the 'dark side'

I am also ledbud on other forum @Teetee bro. @otuaflower used to help me with the auto mazzar grow. that in 2013 bro.
That's where I lost it man, I thought you were otuaflower as well LOL

That's my ideal set up.. 4 bigguns in a 4x4 or a 5x5 tent with skylines galore up above :smoking:unfortunately I'm confined to as many 3L airpots as I can squeeze into the little 80 x 80cm tent atm!!
when you get that bigger tent the 80x80 will be a perfect vegging or cloning space Bro. Better than ideal!

@Teetee mate looking beautiful, I wish my plants looked like that at a young age lol, and those autos you posted? 15oz! Fuck me side ways pointy end first! Look at those colas :drool: I could never grow autos, always had stunted growth for the first few weeks, maybe you are right about handling a seedling, lucky to pull 2oz per auto under a 600w hps, then I went to photos, and haven’t looked back, good luck on this grow brother, not that you need it. To bad about the inspections or you could run a perpetual grow with your clones!
glad you like my grows mate, All indoors when it's a travesty having all this sunshine and land ripe for growing, and I can't use it.

Nice journal! Quick question, are you counting days from seed or from completed germination?
Thanks Honeybee, I plant my seeds directly in the coco, so I count day 1 as the day they pop through.
It takes 48-72 hours for this to happen.
So to be pedantic, it's not technically 'from seed', or 'completed germination' (like you'd see in a paper towel etc) just a touch afterwards (because if the extra time to push up through the coco).... but it's a matter of hours really.
Long answer to a quick question..... the joy of Cannabis!

Looking like another great round, Teetee!
Cheers Iriee! Keep sending those good vibez! Thanks for putting me over the 10K mark with those rep points!:cheers:

Teetee - as always rocking the place!! Looking excellent bud!
Thanks WW, there's a long way to go mate, and this is all new territory for me.... anything can happen!

To be honest, I've had a stressful week. on Wednesday arvo having pulled that day off, I was just in the kitchen when my 5 year old called me over to the lounge....

I couldn't believe my eyes....

........at the foot of one of the french doors, there was a snake skin.... INSIDE the house.

I tried to fob him off saying it was a bit of old carpet, but he wasn't having it. I told him this was our little secret for the moment, and not to tell his sister or Mum.

I went into a cold sweat, there's a snake somewhere in the house.... and spent the next hour looking around for the snake.... while pretending to play catch with my Boy.

"Why are you lifting up the sofa Dad?"
"The ball's over here, Dad"
"Why are you pulling out the fridge/washing machine/dishwasher, Dad"

My Daughter's oblivious to it all, one of the only times I'm happy she's locked onto my phone.

And the Wife is upstairs getting stoned.

I walk in, sweating my tits off, she just thinks it's the heat.
I make sure she goes in the bedroom upstairs, with the kids, and I shut the door saying keep it cool up there, and put a towel down.

I have a joint, and half an hour she's back in, and starts talking about dinner etc, except I'm not really listening, all I can think about is the snake.
I imagine various scenarios as to how I should tell her, and each time I bottle out.

I find myself looking at her deeply, while she's nattering away, and eventually I say....

"hold on a minute Darl.... I've got to tell you something...."

"I found a snakeskin in the house..... and I can't find the snake..."

She reacted as I expected, she wanted to leave immediately.
But we're broke, and so we had to stay. We decided not to tell my Daughter.... she'd never sleep again!

We had a good look around again, and decided it must have gone into hiding.

Called the snakecatcher, and he wanted me to send him pics of the skin....which I did. He thought it may be a small carpet python.

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I reckon it was a Tree snake, the skin was fully intact and was 80cm long, very thin with a similar head to a tree snake and the big eyes....

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I rang up animal rescue, and they said it was pointless them coming over if I hadn't seen the snake.... and said it would probably wanted to come in to shed safely, but went out again, as it wants it's own food, water and habitat etc.... if we don't see the snake or any evidence of it, such as piss etc after 3-4 days, then we should be fine.

They also told me to avoid the local snakeman, as he has been known to be aggressive, extortive and a general pain in the arse.

I inspected the door, and it had a small space underneath it, and the mesh screen there had a small gap at the bottom. Careful inspection of the gap betweeen the door and the screen showed small curves in the fine dust.... snake tracks. And I found them in all 6 of the french doors in the lounge.

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Our lease expires in August, so we have to put up with this shit till then!

Anyway, in other news, I have a grow on.... it's day 31, so here's the obligatory group shot...

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clockwise from top left: PAK2, DF, PAK1 and Gorilla

The big three are all about 40cm high, and 50-60cm wide.

Des Fran is probably the biggest....

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She's reacted well to the LST and topping, and is filling out with side branches and plenty of potential bud sites.
I now have her on an EC 1.0 feed, having raised her up from EC 0.9 on day 29, mainly by adding another 0.1ml/L more of Amino Extract.

Gorilla is on an EC 1.0 feed, but slightly stronger than the Des Fran feed, as it has a touch more N.

day 31 Gorilla 1.JPG


You can see how nicely she has grown after the LST, but I am concerned that she's going a bit pale, and some of the leaves are yellowing down below....

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PAK2 is also on the same feed as the Gorilla, but she is much darker green in general, but the new leaves are much lighter green in colour....

day 31 PAK2 1.JPG


Sometimes, like in these shots, she can look a bit droopy, but you can see she has a lot of action going on in there, and is growing pretty well...

day 31 PAK2 2.JPG


I especially see it at 'lights on', but after an hour or so she really picks up again....

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PAK1 is growing, but so much differently to the rest.... she's only 13cm high! 31 days old!
I topped her (badly) so I topped her again, and also removed the top 4 large fan leaves - they were so velvety and healthy, so it was a hard decision, but it has exposed all the inner new tops.....

day 31 PAK1.JPG


I need to know what to do from now on.....

How much more veg time.... it's day 31 from when they popped out the coco, and I am thinking maybe 7-10 more days till 12/12?

I reckon the main 3 will be ready to flip soon, but do they need more growth after the LST I did?

I want the PAK1 to be flippin with the rest, so how do I prep her to make the most of it.... do I remove all the lower fans and open her up to veg that little bit more?

Thanks for looking in. Gotta get back to the snake hunt :frowny:
 
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Great update! Thanks for sharing.

What do you think is causing the yellowing and drooping leaves on some of the plants?

The snake situation was a real hoot, but I hope it left the house and that everyone is safe!
 
haha cracking grow buddy, the snake shit had me in stitches as id be exactly the same.

Thanks mate, still not found the bugger, so I hope it's gone.....

Teehee, wow mate they are really shooting along, i was drooling at our last grow thread those plants were insane

Cheers Smokey, but as you'll see from the update below, I'm not so sure all is well....

What do you think is causing the yellowing and drooping leaves on some of the plants?

I dunno what's causing the yellowing @HoneyBee, its day 37 veg, and to be honest, I'm not very happy with the way things are going.

PAK1 was a late starter. She has always been very squat, but green and healthy.
She's only about 15cm high, so has a lot to do if she's gonna catch up with the others.

I removed a lot of lower leaves, old fan leaves and inner stringy stuff, so she can concentrate on what she's got.....

day 37 PAK1 1.JPG


PAK2 is much more developed....

day 37 PAK2 1.JPG


Like last week, she's green and healthy, but the tops are looking a bit lighter green in colour.
She stands at 45cm high, and the two highest stems where I topped her are 25cm long and have 8 staggered nodes.

Do these top 2 stems need topping as well?
Or shall I tie them down?

I've had to snip a few old fans off, but she's pretty much the pick of the bunch.
From above, she's looking good....

day 37 PAK2 2.JPG


Now the problem two....

Des Fran was looking a bit paler than the others last week, and this week, she's looking worse.....

day 37 Des Frans 1.JPG


Light green leaves with yellow patches..... am I under feeding her?

She's grown taller than the others at 48cm, with the top two stems formed after topping being 29cm long , and again with 8 staggered nodes.

Much the same question, do I top these? Or what?

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From above you can see she takes up a good amount of space, but should I stale her out a bit, or top some of the side branches?

The side branches that I LST'd a few weeks ago, by pulling them out at 90°, have now hrown up and have a good 8 or so nodes on them.

Lastly Gorilla.... she's very poorly, and has hardly grown in the lsat week. A lot of leaves have yellowed and needed removal, but I have to stop somewhere.....

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She looks worse in real life.... the leaves are really pale at the edges then brown off at the tips.
She is still around 40cm high, as the other two were last week, and the 2 new stems from topping are only 18 cm long with 5 nodes.

Here she is from above....

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This evening, I am going to make a weaker feed for Des Frans and Gorilla. I had been giving the Gorilla and PAK2 a stronger feed, but I think it was too much for Gorilla. Her run off EC was much higher than the feed EC.

I think I might have done the same with the Des Frans as well, I upped her EC last week and she was fine until then, so I will have to have a few separate feeds mixed up, which will be a pain in the arse to manage.

Looks like I'll need at least another 2 weeks before flipping, which again is a pain in the arse. I need this grow done by the end of April, as we have an inspection in May.

Anyway, any advice would be great, I really have no clue what I'm doing :(
Thank you.
 
@Teehee, i wish i could help more, though Green Bandit in my thread did mention the bottom yellowing leaves, he thinks maybe a bit more nutes N, not sure your girls might be something else. What's the cool thing around your pots? The tall ones are yellowing, my tallest is the one that has just started yellowing a bit

in the meantime i found this link on yellow leaves, Royal Queen Seeds website

https://www.royalqueenseeds.com/blog-yellow-cannabis-leaves-n523
 
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@Teetee have you calibrated your ph pen recently mate? Maybe the start of ph lockout? I think N def usually starts low and works its way up :shrug: Hope you get them sorted out soon man, their real beauties :thumbsup:
I'm a soil and sun type of guy, so I could be way off....please take what I say with a grain of salt as I don't even have a ph meter :biggrin:
Thanks mate, still not found the bugger, so I hope it's gone.....



Cheers Smokey, but as you'll see from the update below, I'm not so sure all is well....



I dunno what's causing the yellowing @HoneyBee, its day 37 veg, and to be honest, I'm not very happy with the way things are going.

PAK1 was a late starter. She has always been very squat, but green and healthy.
She's only about 15cm high, so has a lot to do if she's gonna catch up with the others.

I removed a lot of lower leaves, old fan leaves and inner stringy stuff, so she can concentrate on what she's got.....

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PAK2 is much more developed....

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Like last week, she's green and healthy, but the tops are looking a bit lighter green in colour.
She stands at 45cm high, and the two highest stems where I topped her are 25cm long and have 8 staggered nodes.

Do these top 2 stems need topping as well?
Or shall I tie them down?

I've had to snip a few old fans off, but she's pretty much the pick of the bunch.
From above, she's looking good....

View attachment 1009928

Now the problem two....

Des Fran was looking a bit paler than the others last week, and this week, she's looking worse.....

View attachment 1009922

Light green leaves with yellow patches..... am I under feeding her?

She's grown taller than the others at 48cm, with the top two stems formed after topping being 29cm long , and again with 8 staggered nodes.

Much the same question, do I top these? Or what?

View attachment 1009923

From above you can see she takes up a good amount of space, but should I stale her out a bit, or top some of the side branches?

The side branches that I LST'd a few weeks ago, by pulling them out at 90°, have now hrown up and have a good 8 or so nodes on them.

Lastly Gorilla.... she's very poorly, and has hardly grown in the lsat week. A lot of leaves have yellowed and needed removal, but I have to stop somewhere.....

View attachment 1009924

She looks worse in real life.... the leaves are really pale at the edges then brown off at the tips.
She is still around 40cm high, as the other two were last week, and the 2 new stems from topping are only 18 cm long with 5 nodes.

Here she is from above....

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This evening, I am going to make a weaker feed for Des Frans and Gorilla. I had been giving the Gorilla and PAK2 a stronger feed, but I think it was too much for Gorilla. Her run off EC was much higher than the feed EC.

I think I might have done the same with the Des Frans as well, I upped her EC last week and she was fine until then, so I will have to have a few separate feeds mixed up, which will be a pain in the arse to manage.

Looks like I'll need at least another 2 weeks before flipping, which again is a pain in the arse. I need this grow done by the end of April, as we have an inspection in May.

Anyway, any advice would be great, I really have no clue what I'm doing :(
Thank you.
 
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