SSSC st.tom runs auto creeper

[Dr Fluff]

little update i dropped a major fucking clanger i use ataclean for my pipes on my autopots and i think i may have rushed and forgotten it when filling the res as i thought to myself there seems to be more than one problem and it worsened overnight leaves lost a lot more colour so upon getting to the back of the tent her pipes were blocked so I'm thinking the big girl has had no food for say 36 hrs so no wonder she looks hungry i still believe she will bounce back but it just shows shit goes sideways fast in canna land also because I've overloaded my tent with solos also i took to much on and took my eye of the ball its a lesson i won't forget
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Hi Tom, I think this started with your PH problems.
I think I'm right is saying your PH went over 6.5 PH, which will have locked out Manganese, Boron and Phosphorus.
I believe this starvation of these nutrients from lock out started the ball rolling here.
Your blockage won't have helped but a plant that size can't go 36 hours without moisture, so something had to be getting through, even if it was at a reduced rate.
With that rate of chlorosis in the leaves, they won't be photosynthesizing anymore, so those yellow leaves won't be building any new growth.
Is the plant still green lower down, or is it just the tops which have gone yellow?
It looks to me, like an early harvest may be happening!
Sativa's are known to be more racey than indicas but so are early cuts,so go careful when smoking her.
Things might get speedy, psychedelic and could possibly give a touch of the paranoias and/or heart palpitations.
What an outstanding plant though.
What's more, it is like you said, you have gained valuable knowledge, knowledge you got from the growing experience.
Knowledge you could possibly get from a book but wouldn't understand in the same way as living and doing it!
You are an amazing grower and we all have our bad days!
Don't be too hard on yourself brother!

 

[St. Tom]

Hi Tom, I think this started with your PH problems.
I think I'm right is saying your PH went over 6.5 PH, which will have locked out Manganese, Boron and Phosphorus.
I believe this starvation of these nutrients from lock out started the ball rolling here.
Your blockage won't have helped but a plant that size can't go 36 hours without moisture, so something had to be getting through, even if it was at a reduced rate.
With that rate of chlorosis in the leaves, they won't be photosynthesizing anymore, so those yellow leaves won't be building any new growth.
Is the plant still green lower down, or is it just the tops which have gone yellow?
It looks to me, like an early harvest may be happening!
Sativa's are known to be more racey than indicas but so are early cuts,so go careful when smoking her.
Things might get speedy, psychedelic and could possibly give a touch of the paranoias and/or heart palpitations.
What an outstanding plant though.
What's more, it is like you said, you have gained valuable knowledge, knowledge you got from the growing experience.
Knowledge you could possibly get from a book but wouldn't understand in the same way as living and doing it!
You are an amazing grower and we all have our bad days!
Don't be too hard on yourself brother!

its just one of those things isn't it and as you said i could harvest her early but i will just keep pushing her i just checked her bottoms have still got way more colour than the tops so i think as you said lots of problems have caught up and hit me also the ph issues have been under control now for maybe 3 weeks but i could have started the lockout there early on and thanks mate all your tips are taken on board also regarding the harvesting I'm hoping to leave her late as possible as that type of high is horrible don't you think and she's not gonna look pretty but i can live with that and thanks again your a great friend

 

[St. Tom]

@arty zan bottom pic also would you leave damaged leaves or just let them fall

 

[Dr Fluff]

@arty zan bottom pic also would you leave damaged leaves or just let them fallView attachment 1195107

Hard one to call Tom, as I haven't had a situation like this!
For myself I would take the most fully yellow leaves off and leave anything with green still in it on, even if it is just a little green.
Leaves which are going brown, can come off!
That is just how I would go with it but like I say I haven't had to deal with this situation!
In this instance I would seek @Waira advice as he knows more about these situations (Or I at the least, think so)!
I'm always here to help in any way I can brother but some situations are beyond my knowledge and we then rely on our other brothers to lend a hand!!

 

[Growtogrow]

@arty zan bottom pic also would you leave damaged leaves or just let them fallView attachment 1195107

Sorry Tom...yeah Tom you've got a situation there buddy. Anything that's deep yellow / deep yellow/brown and crispy. Is never going to come back. Take it off when it's like that. It is just dead matter.
Most all the time deep yellow leaves wilting and crispy brown. It's a dead leaf and it's not going to come back.
That's my experience brother.
good luck.

 

[Nosias]

little update i dropped a major fucking clanger i use ataclean for my pipes on my autopots and i think i may have rushed and forgotten it when filling the res as i thought to myself there seems to be more than one problem and it worsened overnight leaves lost a lot more colour so upon getting to the back of the tent her pipes were blocked so I'm thinking the big girl has had no food for say 36 hrs so no wonder she looks hungry i still believe she will bounce back but it just shows shit goes sideways fast in canna land also because I've overloaded my tent with solos also i took to much on and took my eye of the ball its a lesson i won't forget
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I understand. Well I mean shooting myself in the foot is the best way I learn. I feel there is not too much harm that will come to them. Smile they are beyond gorgeous. And remember to burn your ladies b4 you burn yourself out. I appreciate all of your successes. Keep them growing.

 

[Nosias]

Hi Tom, I think this started with your PH problems.
I think I'm right is saying your PH went over 6.5 PH, which will have locked out Manganese, Boron and Phosphorus.
I believe this starvation of these nutrients from lock out started the ball rolling here.
Your blockage won't have helped but a plant that size can't go 36 hours without moisture, so something had to be getting through, even if it was at a reduced rate.
With that rate of chlorosis in the leaves, they won't be photosynthesizing anymore, so those yellow leaves won't be building any new growth.
Is the plant still green lower down, or is it just the tops which have gone yellow?
It looks to me, like an early harvest may be happening!
Sativa's are known to be more racey than indicas but so are early cuts,so go careful when smoking her.
Things might get speedy, psychedelic and could possibly give a touch of the paranoias and/or heart palpitations.
What an outstanding plant though.
What's more, it is like you said, you have gained valuable knowledge, knowledge you got from the growing experience.
Knowledge you could possibly get from a book but wouldn't understand in the same way as living and doing it!
You are an amazing grower and we all have our bad days!
Don't be too hard on yourself brother!

Ya what the arty oat said is grow on

 

[St. Tom]

Sorry Tom...yeah Tom you've got a situation there buddy. Anything that's deep yellow / deep yellow/brown and crispy. Is never going to come back. Take it off when it's like that. It is just dead matter.
Most all the time deep yellow leaves wilting and crispy brown. It's a dead leaf and it's not going to come back.
That's my experience brother.
good luck.

sound thanks guys i will start stripping them off and tidy her up and but with all the issues shes still a beast of a girl at day66 so you have all cheered me up

I understand. Well I mean shooting myself in the foot is the best way I learn. I feel there is not too much harm that will come to them. Smile they are beyond gorgeous. And remember to burn your ladies b4 you burn yourself out. I appreciate all of your successes. Keep them growing.

and thanks @Nosias we have been around about the same time on here it seems like ages and it does show we can all drop big clangers and another grow another set of lessons I've learned again as with autopots love and hate them it makes growing easier but i would prefer to top feed plants anytime for control etc :smoking:
also your all a big part of my growing support i appreciate you all so much

 

[Nosias]

sound thanks guys i will start stripping them off and tidy her up and but with all the issues shes still a beast of a girl at day66 so you have all cheered me up

and thanks @Nosias we have been around about the same time on here it seems like ages and it does show we can all drop big clangers and another grow another set of lessons I've learned again as with autopots love and hate them it makes growing easier but i would prefer to top feed plants anytime for control etc :smoking:
also your all a big part of my growing support i appreciate you all so much

We have learned to lean on each other here at AFN.

From the song Lean on Me
"
You just call on me brother, when you need a hand
We all need somebody to lean on
I just might have a problem that you'll understand
We all need somebody to lean on

Lean on me, when you're not strong
And I'll be your friend
I'll help you carry on
For it won't be long
'Til I'm gonna need
Somebody to lean on"

 

[St. Tom]

Day 68 well my big girl is still steaming ahead i dont think she minds looking slightly rough and id say when the feed stopped on her she sucked all the cal .mag .and lots of other elements out of them top leaves anyhow i was going to remove her leaves but she took so much of the back of the tent i cant get at most of them anyway .well this is my plan run her on feed till say day 73 and then water only for say 5 days and chop her also her slower sister beside her has started chunking up now but i think she will need a little longer pics included of both .anyhow im just gonna put my errors down to experiance and learn from them folks