SANlight SANlight Q6W test grow

some more beauty shots the close up ones mainly are of 1 of the thc bomb sisters the younger is at day 56 and her wonderful colas are massive with some sweet colours and the other 3 are day 63 and besides my big girl with the burned tip isn't the prettiest but she will be a good yielder all thanks to the wonderful sanlights
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The girls are looking beautiful Tom.:d5::woohoo1:
Fantastic resin production and they are still spitting out lots of white pistils.
They are gonna be some awesome buds come chop time.
The Sanlight Q6W's are certainly chucking out plenty of light, to the point of producing more than the plants need!!
Which is great as you know you are getting as much as they want or need!
This is seen in you photographs as something I call "crocodile or Dragon's teeth", where the serrations on the leaf turn upwards.
Not to be confused with "Tacoing" where the leaf folds along the length of the leaf, bringing the two side together like a "Taco".
Tacoing is caused by heat stress, whereas "crocodile teeth" happens, when there is a abundance of light, which in this case means the Q6W's are kicking it, when it come to the efficiency and power of the Top Bin Osram LED's the Q6W's uses!

Here are some screen grabs of your photos to show what I call "Crocodile teeth".

St. tom's dragon teeth #1 2019-03-29_22-30-17.jpg

In these two pictures you can see the "Crocodile teeth" where the serrations are pointing upwards. Which is testament to the awesome power of the SanLight Q6W's!
St. tom's dragon teeth #2.jpg

Below is a "Gharial Crocodile" which has the perfect croc teeth to shows why I call the effect that abundant light causes, as "Crocodile teeth"
gharial-001.jpg

When you look at the bottom jaw, you can see why I call it what it looks like.

I see by your photo's you are using a phone to take you pictures and those close ups make me think you use and android, which has better "Macro/close up" capabilities, as the iphone isn't great at close up shots.
Either that or you are using a clip on lens, I'm starting to pay a bit more attention these days, when it comes to photography, so I wonder if you could share how you get your awesome close up shots, which shows all that beautiful resin!:photog:

Keep posting more photos for us, I need my daily bud porn fix! :eyebrows::headbang:
 
The girls are looking beautiful Tom.:d5::woohoo1:
Fantastic resin production and they are still spitting out lots of white pistils.
They are gonna be some awesome buds come chop time.
The Sanlight Q6W's are certainly chucking out plenty of light, to the point of producing more than the plants need!!
Which is great as you know you are getting as much as they want or need!
This is seen in you photographs as something I call "crocodile or Dragon's teeth", where the serrations on the leaf turn upwards.
Not to be confused with "Tacoing" where the leaf folds along the length of the leaf, bringing the two side together like a "Taco".
Tacoing is caused by heat stress, whereas "crocodile teeth" happens, when there is a abundance of light, which in this case means the Q6W's are kicking it, when it come to the efficiency and power of the Top Bin Osram LED's the Q6W's uses!

Here are some screen grabs of your photos to show what I call "Crocodile teeth".

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In these two pictures you can see the "Crocodile teeth" where the serrations are pointing upwards. Which is testament to the awesome power of the SanLight Q6W's!
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Below is a "Gharial Crocodile" which has the perfect croc teeth to shows why I call the effect that abundant light causes, as "Crocodile teeth"
gharial-001.jpg

When you look at the bottom jaw, you can see why I call it what it looks like.

I see by your photo's you are using a phone to take you pictures and those close ups make me think you use and android, which has better "Macro/close up" capabilities, as the iphone isn't great at close up shots.
Either that or you are using a clip on lens, I'm starting to pay a bit more attention these days, when it comes to photography, so I wonder if you could share how you get your awesome close up shots, which shows all that beautiful resin!:photog:

Keep posting more photos for us, I need my daily bud porn fix! :eyebrows::headbang:
spot on spotting them leaves and yes im using a s9 plus its got special dual lenses for close-ups and they do look quality wise like a clip on i only just realised that .your a world of knowledge and someone who i will learn lots from also i will get some nice close up bud shots of her sister tmoz who is a week older also i have considered getting a proper camera but this does the job have you seen @Slater pics he blows me away with his as hes doing the sanlight test with me so check his thread out .also did you know these are modular on the new model as i know you have the earlier ones heres some data as the blocks of diodes are upgradeable how cool is that
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spot on spotting them leaves and yes im using a s9 plus its got special dual lenses for close-ups and they do look quality wise like a clip on i only just realised that .your a world of knowledge and someone who i will learn lots from also i will get some nice close up bud shots of her sister tmoz who is a week older also i have considered getting a proper camera but this does the job have you seen @Slater pics he blows me away with his as hes doing the sanlight test with me so check his thread out .also did you know these are modular on the new model as i know you have the earlier ones heres some data as the blocks of diodes are upgradeable how cool is that
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Cheers Tom for info and the kind words.
I have an S8 but trying to get the photos of it is causing me real problems but that might just be something to do with security programs and firewalls etc, it's a bloody minefield.
I have downloaded all sorts of programs and watched youtube videos on transferring pictures from the S8 to PC but to no avail.
So I'm gonna go the SD card route but I need to get a card reader first (there's always something eh)?
In the meanwhile I'm using my Nikon compact camera.

If you are interested in getting quality lens for your phone, I recently stumbled on a site which makes a phone cover for the S9, with some seriously good lenses (which aren't cheap) but very good quality!
I manage to get one of these cases recently for my S8.
The case was relevant at the time when the S8 was a flagship phone, which coincided with "Moment's" kickstarter campaign.
The S8 case is now discontinued and I had to out bid someone on ebay, as it was the only one available anywhere in the world (I paid more than i wanted ;( ). I also searched the web high and low and it was the only S8 cover by Moment, period, so I had to have it!
The lenses are really good but i don't want to pay top dollar and I have found you can pick up the lenses on ebay, second hand for half the ticket price they are at Moment's website.
Link to the S9 case - https://www.shopmoment.com/shop/photo-case-galaxy/galaxy-s9-walnut
Moment Lenses - https://www.shopmoment.com/shop/categories/lenses
Here's a video showing the macro lens from moment in action.


Thanks for the heads up of @Slater photo skills, I'll be sure to check them out.
I wanna get as good as I can with my photography and especially with my macro shots.
I also have a usb microscope so I hope to really get in close with that.
I'll be sure to check his SanLight test grow too, SanLight make awesome LED's, as I know from personal experience with my S4W's.

I did see you mention the Q6W's are modular and that they can be daisy chain , which I love.
My S4W's each have their own Meanwell driver and it can get a bit "Cablely" in my cab with all threl strips in there.
So with the Q6W's there is just on switching driver that detects how many lights are connected? Something like that?
I'm guess max chain would be three Q6W's per driver?? Just a guess. (3 x 150W would be 450W and I imagine that would be the max Wattage for a single driver?
Upgradable "Diode units" that's freakin awesome, it seems I need to go do some homework on the Q6W's!
 
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Cheers Tom for info and the kind words.
I have an S8 but trying to get the photos of it is causing me real problems but that might just be something to do with security programs and firewalls etc, it's a bloody minefield.
I have downloaded all sorts of programs and watched youtube videos on transferring pictures from the S8 to PC but to no avail.
So I'm gonna go the SD card route but I need to get a card reader first (there's always something eh)?
In the meanwhile I'm using my Nikon compact camera.

If you are interested in getting quality lens for your phone, I recently stumbled on a site which makes a phone cover for the S9, with some seriously good lenses (which aren't cheap) but very good quality!
I manage to get one of these cases recently for my S8.
The case was relevant at the time when the S8 was a flagship phone, which coincided with "Moment's" kickstarter campaign.
The S8 case is now discontinued and I had to out bid someone on ebay, as it was the only one available anywhere in the world (I paid more than i wanted ;( ). I also searched the web high and low and it was the only S8 cover by Moment, period, so I had to have it!
The lenses are really good but i don't want to pay top dollar and I have found you can pick up the lenses on ebay, second hand for half the ticket price they are at Moment's website.
Link to the S9 case - https://www.shopmoment.com/shop/photo-case-galaxy/galaxy-s9-walnut
Moment Lenses - https://www.shopmoment.com/shop/categories/lenses
Here's a video showing the macro lens from moment in action.


Thanks for the heads up of @Slater photo skills, I'll be sure to check them out.
I wanna get as good as I can with my photography and especially with my macro shots.
I also have a usb microscope so I hope to really get in close with that.
I'll be sure to check his SanLight test grow too, SanLight make awesome LED's, as I know from personal experience with my S4W's.

I did see you mention the Q6W's are modular and that they can be daisy chain , which I love.
My S4W's each have their own Meanwell driver and it can get a bit "Cablely" in my cab with all threl strips in there.
So with the Q6W's there is just on switching driver that detects how many lights are connected? Something like that?
I'm guess max chain would be three Q6W's per driver?? Just a guess. (3 x 150W would be 450W and I imagine that would be the max Wattage for a single driver?
Upgradable "Diode units" that#s freakin awesome, seem I need to go do some homework on the Q6W's!

when they first landed i thought weres the power block or driver and low and behold there built in i thought they had missed them out the boxes so you just have your wire to the plug and that's it anyhow i will look at them lenses also with your phone on your pc get it plug it in and you will hear a ding on your pc as the driver installs then look on your phone it will ask for permission to allow it to connect to the pc and you should then see you phone and sd card if you have one in 2 folders and your pics a in a dcim folder i think its called its not camera or gallery and if that didnt work email yourself them off your phone and open them on the pc ..also one last thing if you see something thats out of place in my grow or i can improve please tell me ya know i appreciate feedback and even with the leaves i checked it may be slight wind or fan burn as i have 3 fans blowing in a 4x4 tent i think i get by but id never got to were i am here if it wasnt for afn and the all the good people
 
when they first landed i thought where's the power block or driver and low and behold there built in i thought they had missed them out the boxes so you just have your wire to the plug and that's it anyhow i will look at them lenses also with your phone on your pc get it plug it in and you will hear a ding on your pc as the driver installs then look on your phone it will ask for permission to allow it to connect to the pc and you should then see you phone and sd card if you have one in 2 folders and your pics a in a dcim folder i think its called its not camera or gallery and if that didn't work email yourself them off your phone and open them on the pc ..also one last thing if you see something that's out of place in my grow or i can improve please tell me ya know i appreciate feedback and even with the leaves i checked it may be slight wind or fan burn as i have 3 fans blowing in a 4x4 tent i think i get by but I'd never got to where i am here if it wasn't for afn and the all the good people

Cheers for the phone advice, some of that sounds familiar, I'll have another go at it. I can do allsorts with a PC but mobile phone os confuse the fuck out of me. I have yo say the S8 is far more hands on than the S4 I just got rid of (lmao yeah my last phone I had for years XD).

Advice on wind burn and plant buffeting, is point fans towards the walls as it creates a diffused circulating air current or you could blow air across the tops of the plants and not directly at the leaves ( this is especially good for HID users (which we aren't) as it keep the heat off the plants, ).
You just want to stir the air, to stop there being areas where the air stands still (stagnant air) where mold and mildew & mold likes it (warm , muggy and still).
I also (when needs be) use a 4" axial duct fan for the understory, where it can be rather airless, still and close to moist coco/soil.
This is because I have a small cab and cram as much is viable in my cab.(Which is why I have developed my own dwarfing technique, due to space constraints and I get some nice crops that way).
However your girls have a little more space in a 4' x4' and shouldn't need the extra low down air movement.

As for your getting by... I think you are doing a sterling job and your grow looks great.:headbang::smoking::thumbsup::cooldance::smokeit:

As long as you replace the air often with your intake and extraction fan for the size of your space, you are halfway there.
I think I read that you had problems with keeping relative humidity up, so that will also help keep nasty molds and mildew at bay too!
If i remember right you had to get a humidifier, where as I'm looking to get a dehumidifier lol

I know some of your plants (the ones on the left) are a bit lime green, it could be they want a bit more food, they don't look calmah def which a bit more stripey on the leaves.
Some strains can be lime green where others can be very deep green.
Always be careful not to give too much Nitrogen though as it can cause overnitification, which can be identified by very dark green leaves, which have the dreaded "claw" where the leaf tips curl under.
497e32682a2591adf754b4e9727ebf89d3a5c4c9.jpg

Sometime over nitrification can occur to the lower leaves aren't getting enough light due to the canopy above, i would remove these leave as they are not going to get any more light unless you defoliate and even then they are in the lower popcorn zone where the yield is near on negligible.

The odd foliar feed can sometimes help and the nutes can get to where is needed fast (the same goes with calmag def, using calmag and iron in a spray bottle works a treat and fast)!
An added bonus of foliar feeding is it doesn't affect the root ph, so even if you have lockout the plants can use the nutrients through the leaves, whilst you deal with any possible def.
Seaweed nutes have lots of nice stuff in them and make for great foliar feed.
You don't however want to spray buds, for a couple of reasons, one is the possibility of moldy buds, secondly it may affect to taste of the buds and thirdly you don't want to be smoking nutes.

I think you are feeding slightly under what is stated in you nute schedule, due to others mentioning that whilst Remo's nutes are the mutts nuts , they can be a little to strong for some strains at the rated dosage (I think I'm right saying that, I read through you journal fairly quickly so I might be a little off here).
I also imagine you are good with Ph'ing your nutes. Your in coco right? Drain to waste? 20% to 30% run off when you feed? If yes to these questions, then I imagine your coco is not having salt build up and remaining at the correct Ph.
Seedlings do like it a bit more acid and can take a PH as low as Ph 5.5.
Ph 5.8 is the optimal level for cannabis in coco but allowing it to range up and down a little helps make all the nutrients available.
Here is some interesting reading from Canna on Ions and usable nutrients in coco.


Ions; usable nutrients:coco:
All usable nutrients become available to the plants internal processes as ions, or charged atoms or in functional groups such as nitrates. Ions affect each other. In fact, in the plants processes they are combined in controlled fashion. In a solution with other ions, and no controls, they still combine or associate with other ions of opposite charge. They also affect the availability of each other as similar charges. This is known as antagonism, where large quantities of one element will decrease availability of another element which is available in smaller quantities.

In this case, as the concentration of potassium increases, the availability of both calcium and magnesium decreases. It is more commonly known as locking out. When combined with the effects of pH and temperature, precipitation of these salts can occur. The effect works the other way too, when calcium increases the potassium availability decreases. Additionally, Potassium has the ability to almost move throughout a plant at will, it is mostly un-regulated; a characteristic all plants have adapted by harnessing these ions to do work as they move around.

This is all very well and good, but how does that affect the use of coconut peat and mulch with plants? As the coco decomposes, it ‘releases’ salts that increase the EC of the medium which will result in burning and imbalances in calcium and/or magnesium and potassium balances or ratios. The ‘greener’ the coco, the greater the problem. About the time this ‘release’ slows down sufficiently to be able to grow a crop in, the structure of the coco has the characteristics of muck peat and needs amendments such as perlite, sand, pebbles or other large particles added to give the growing medium air. Also, the state of decomposition is at its highest, so what is left will not last long, and it is even in danger of being washed out of the container. We know that if we can control the level of salts AND the ratio of these salts at an earlier stage, we would have the advantage of a good physical structure and a proper nutrient balance.:coco:

I like to uses well washed coco and one that has been buffered like Canna coco pro but I have recently had good result using "Coco coinz" which are also well washed and buffered!
Cheap coco bricks are cheap for a reason and could contain high levels of salts and be less PH stable.


Also a handy thing to remember if you use PPM to measure your nutes strength, is there are several PPM scales and if you are advised to use a certain ppm b y someone, make sure you are both using the same scale!
I like to use EC as it is a universal scale and everyone is using the same strength if someone says to use 1.1 EC etc.
Some of this you may know but this is some of the info i have so i thought i would share it with you.

To be honest the person to ask about your possible deficiency, is the eminent and very knowledgeable @waria ,who has an unrivaled knowledge, when it come to plant def!
Your spot on the money, where AFN peeps are concerned!!:headbang::cheers::d5:
AFN is a wonderful community of awesome people , who love to help each other out and something which I applaud!:applause:
As the they say "always pay it forward"!:forward:

I hope I haven't waffled on too much, if I have let me know and I will try to keep it more succinct in future posts lol ;)

Arty
 
3 of these girls are connected to a 47 ltr res with autopots so that was my problem the back big lady she couldn't handle the same feed as the others and she was a little bit yellowing then I upped her feed and got burned tips but seems I'm approaching week 9 I think I'm in the best place I can be with her as after this weeks feeds finished I may flush 2 of them or as soon as trichomes tell me 2
 
Cheers Tom for info and the kind words.
I have an S8 but trying to get the photos of it is causing me real problems but that might just be something to do with security programs and firewalls etc, it's a bloody minefield.
I have downloaded all sorts of programs and watched youtube videos on transferring pictures from the S8 to PC but to no avail.
So I'm gonna go the SD card route but I need to get a card reader first (there's always something eh)?
In the meanwhile I'm using my Nikon compact camera.

If you are interested in getting quality lens for your phone, I recently stumbled on a site which makes a phone cover for the S9, with some seriously good lenses (which aren't cheap) but very good quality!
I manage to get one of these cases recently for my S8.
The case was relevant at the time when the S8 was a flagship phone, which coincided with "Moment's" kickstarter campaign.
The S8 case is now discontinued and I had to out bid someone on ebay, as it was the only one available anywhere in the world (I paid more than i wanted ;( ). I also searched the web high and low and it was the only S8 cover by Moment, period, so I had to have it!
The lenses are really good but i don't want to pay top dollar and I have found you can pick up the lenses on ebay, second hand for half the ticket price they are at Moment's website.
Link to the S9 case - https://www.shopmoment.com/shop/photo-case-galaxy/galaxy-s9-walnut
Moment Lenses - https://www.shopmoment.com/shop/categories/lenses
Here's a video showing the macro lens from moment in action.


Thanks for the heads up of @Slater photo skills, I'll be sure to check them out.
I wanna get as good as I can with my photography and especially with my macro shots.
I also have a usb microscope so I hope to really get in close with that.
I'll be sure to check his SanLight test grow too, SanLight make awesome LED's, as I know from personal experience with my S4W's.

I did see you mention the Q6W's are modular and that they can be daisy chain , which I love.
My S4W's each have their own Meanwell driver and it can get a bit "Cablely" in my cab with all threl strips in there.
So with the Q6W's there is just on switching driver that detects how many lights are connected? Something like that?
I'm guess max chain would be three Q6W's per driver?? Just a guess. (3 x 150W would be 450W and I imagine that would be the max Wattage for a single driver?
Upgradable "Diode units" that#s freakin awesome, seem I need to go do some homework on the Q6W's!


thanks @arty zan ... I now want a cover by moment for that macro action...
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... shit, that takes my Tamron on my SLR to the cleaners... impressed is not the word

I use my S8 for all my photography on AFN now (and for my main job of business out side of AFN), only getting the SLR out for the bud porn shots once in a wile, which reminds me that's a job for tonight... I spent near on 5 yrs in higher eduction learning all that stuff in analog form, from tilt shift to fill in flash, studio lighting and loads more (I have forgotten a fair bit now).... dam I love my S8 so much... I can do all that shit with a setting now at the touch of a button, just flipping amazing if you ask me... I'm not one of those photographers that think phones are killing the art, I believe they have opened it up wider... but still you need to understand composition, doesn't matter how good the phone is my mums pics are still out of focus and feet are still getting chopped off even after the years of me tell her...

@St. Tom few quick tips - frame your pics in 3's....e.g... sky, land, person... You should have an option of bringing up a grid in on your phone when in camera mode, I recommend you use it to frame your pics, don't worry about editing just now worry about the composition of the photo and that just alone will lift your photography heads and shoulders form most on here.... also have a go at differential focus, get a cola to fill the frame, nice and close with the back ground all nice and out of focus... also think angles, come in from the bottom and shoot from more of an up angle, this will get the light to flare around the leaves/buds in places. It's also good to have flash on wile dong this for filling in those shadows... Start to use you phone in pro mode and switch auto off, if you can put your ISO to 50 and adjust your shutter speed until you get more of a moody contrast. Again that alone will start to lift your pics... tip for the SANlight put your White Balance at 2900k and you will reduce that pinkish tone... and my best tip is to think of a style, find a shot that looks good and can be nearly reproduced ever time you open the tent... I have gone and made a setting in pro on my S8 for the SANlight tent so every time I take the pics the lighting and contrast are the same to give that style you have been noticing

For editing I can highly recommend the photoshop app, the free version is all you need, blows me away what it can do...

Happy Saturday everyone
 
Cheers for the phone advice, some of that sounds familiar, I'll have another go at it. I can do allsorts with a PC but mobile phone os confuse the fuck out of me. I have yo say the S8 is far more hands on than the S4 I just got rid of (lmao yeah my last phone I had for years XD).

Advice on wind burn and plant buffeting, is point fans towards the walls as it creates a diffused circulating air current or you could blow air across the tops of the plants and not directly at the leaves ( this is especially good for HID users (which we aren't) as it keep the heat off the plants, ).
You just want to stir the air, to stop there being areas where the air stands still (stagnant air) where mold and mildew & mold likes it (warm , muggy and still).
I also (when needs be) use a 4" axial duct fan for the understory, where it can be rather airless, still and close to moist coco/soil.
This is because I have a small cab and cram as much is viable in my cab.(Which is why I have developed my own dwarfing technique, due to space constraints and I get some nice crops that way).
However your girls have a little more space in a 4' x4' and shouldn't need the extra low down air movement.

As for your getting by... I think you are doing a sterling job and your grow looks great.:headbang::smoking::thumbsup::cooldance::smokeit:

As long as you replace the air often with your intake and extraction fan for the size of your space, you are halfway there.
I think I read that you had problems with keeping relative humidity up, so that will also help keep nasty molds and mildew at bay too!
If i remember right you had to get a humidifier, where as I'm looking to get a dehumidifier lol

I know some of your plants (the ones on the left) are a bit lime green, it could be they want a bit more food, they don't look calmah def which a bit more stripey on the leaves.
Some strains can be lime green where others can be very deep green.
Always be careful not to give too much Nitrogen though as it can cause overnitification, which can be identified by very dark green leaves, which have the dreaded "claw" where the leaf tips curl under.
497e32682a2591adf754b4e9727ebf89d3a5c4c9.jpg

Sometime over nitrification can occur to the lower leaves aren't getting enough light due to the canopy above, i would remove these leave as they are not going to get any more light unless you defoliate and even then they are in the lower popcorn zone where the yield is near on negligible.

The odd foliar feed can sometimes help and the nutes can get to where is needed fast (the same goes with calmag def, using calmag and iron in a spray bottle works a treat and fast)!
An added bonus of foliar feeding is it doesn't affect the root ph, so even if you have lockout the plants can use the nutrients through the leaves, whilst you deal with any possible def.
Seaweed nutes have lots of nice stuff in them and make for great foliar feed.
You don't however want to spray buds, for a couple of reasons, one is the possibility of moldy buds, secondly it may affect to taste of the buds and thirdly you don't want to be smoking nutes.

I think you are feeding slightly under what is stated in you nute schedule, due to others mentioning that whilst Remo's nutes are the mutts nuts , they can be a little to strong for some strains at the rated dosage (I think I'm right saying that, I read through you journal fairly quickly so I might be a little off here).
I also imagine you are good with Ph'ing your nutes. Your in coco right? Drain to waste? 20% to 30% run off when you feed? If yes to these questions, then I imagine your coco is not having salt build up and remaining at the correct Ph.
Seedlings do like it a bit more acid and can take a PH as low as Ph 5.5.
Ph 5.8 is the optimal level for cannabis in coco but allowing it to range up and down a little helps make all the nutrients available.
Here is some interesting reading from Canna on Ions and usable nutrients in coco.


Ions; usable nutrients:coco:
All usable nutrients become available to the plants internal processes as ions, or charged atoms or in functional groups such as nitrates. Ions affect each other. In fact, in the plants processes they are combined in controlled fashion. In a solution with other ions, and no controls, they still combine or associate with other ions of opposite charge. They also affect the availability of each other as similar charges. This is known as antagonism, where large quantities of one element will decrease availability of another element which is available in smaller quantities.

In this case, as the concentration of potassium increases, the availability of both calcium and magnesium decreases. It is more commonly known as locking out. When combined with the effects of pH and temperature, precipitation of these salts can occur. The effect works the other way too, when calcium increases the potassium availability decreases. Additionally, Potassium has the ability to almost move throughout a plant at will, it is mostly un-regulated; a characteristic all plants have adapted by harnessing these ions to do work as they move around.

This is all very well and good, but how does that affect the use of coconut peat and mulch with plants? As the coco decomposes, it ‘releases’ salts that increase the EC of the medium which will result in burning and imbalances in calcium and/or magnesium and potassium balances or ratios. The ‘greener’ the coco, the greater the problem. About the time this ‘release’ slows down sufficiently to be able to grow a crop in, the structure of the coco has the characteristics of muck peat and needs amendments such as perlite, sand, pebbles or other large particles added to give the growing medium air. Also, the state of decomposition is at its highest, so what is left will not last long, and it is even in danger of being washed out of the container. We know that if we can control the level of salts AND the ratio of these salts at an earlier stage, we would have the advantage of a good physical structure and a proper nutrient balance.:coco:

I like to uses well washed coco and one that has been buffered like Canna coco pro but I have recently had good result using "Coco coinz" which are also well washed and buffered!
Cheap coco bricks are cheap for a reason and could contain high levels of salts and be less PH stable.


Also a handy thing to remember if you use PPM to measure your nutes strength, is there are several PPM scales and if you are advised to use a certain ppm b y someone, make sure you are both using the same scale!
I like to use EC as it is a universal scale and everyone is using the same strength if someone says to use 1.1 EC etc.
Some of this you may know but this is some of the info i have so i thought i would share it with you.

To be honest the person to ask about your possible deficiency, is the eminent and very knowledgeable @waria ,who has an unrivaled knowledge, when it come to plant def!
Your spot on the money, where AFN peeps are concerned!!:headbang::cheers::d5:
AFN is a wonderful community of awesome people , who love to help each other out and something which I applaud!:applause:
As the they say "always pay it forward"!:forward:

I hope I haven't waffled on too much, if I have let me know and I will try to keep it more succinct in future posts lol ;)

Arty

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keep em coming @arty zan
 
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