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FYI my Roc grape dosi and grape slurri turbo photos they only took 25 days in veg I think it was and 63 days in bloom! 88 days total is actually shorter time than a good amount of auto breeders! Even the 3 fastbuds strains I ran in solo cups took 93 days or more!Definitely getting better. Some are just slower than others when something may not have been great 3-5 years ago but has become great in the last year or two such as the case here. Just can't beat autos IMO, I don't have the patience for photos when I can get just as good in half the time and that allows me to try more strains and breeders which is what I personally enjoy the most, so much fire out there anymore.