Dutch Passion Project Night Queen phenohunt timelapse - Coco in Alien Easy Feed System

[Groff]

Hey gang! Guess who's back?

Setting up a test grow to (try to) isolate my favourite Night Queen photoperiod pheno, as well as testing some new cameras, optics, tecniques and secret weapon gizmos. So don't expect anything too fancy right off the bat, though I do hope to share with you guys some timelapse experiments before the next full run. Stepping up my timelapse game, so please bear with me for some sub-par results until I get my settings right.

Had a disatrous previous run cloning that I boiled down to gel gone off. 100% death rate. Weird. Never had that happen to me, but oh well ... 5 seeds were popped, then another 10 a week later (long story), looking for a total of 12 girls.

Seup is the Alien Hydroponic Easy Feed system. Eats Autopots for breakfast. Flowering room is having a make over right now... Canna Coco with Dutch Pro Autoflower nutes... that I firmly believe are their regular hydro nutes with a sticker slapped onto the bottles (that's what is looks like!). Nothing but great results. Love these nutes, very forgiving, easy to push and plants just love them.

Posting for timestamping purposes - Calling it today as the second seed batch peeked today - Nov 15'th 2016.

Good to be back

 

[namvet25]

Nice setup.good luck.

 

[Duggy]

Good to see you brother...

 

[Groff]

Nice setup.good luck.

Gracias!

Good to see you brother...

Hey Duggy 'ol boy!

___

 

[Corgy]

Seup is the Alien Hydroponic Easy Feed system. Eats Autopots for breakfast.

Damnation.... Are you trying to get me divorced...... Didn't know about them Easy Feeders.... This will be interesting.

Why do you think they eat Autopots in the mornings..... Had a good look, and other than being able to adjust/set the amount of water given to a fabric pot, what am I missing?

.... Have you considered sticking an airdome in some of the pots?

 

[Groff]

Damnation.... Are you trying to get me divorced...... Didn't know about them Easy Feeders.... This will be interesting.

Why do you think they eat Autopots in the mornings..... Had a good look, and other than being able to adjust/set the amount of water given to a fabric pot, what am I missing?

.... Have you considered sticking an airdome in some of the pots?

Hey Corgy! What's up bro!
I'm definitely not trying to get you divorced - in fact, the comparative cost of this system to others is ridiculously low. I say it eats autopost for breakfast because it solves lots of typical issues autopots have in one go. No airdomes needed at all with this. If anything it could do serious harm to the root base, drying it out and damaging it.

Autopots weren't designed for cannabis (I'm not certain about this claim, but I'd bet my house on it - if they were it's a mega-fail). You must remember airdomes were invented to overcome a design flaw with autopots where plants become waterlogged. Airdomes turn autopots into a silly little bubbler system, makes no sense at all. The gold discs and mats and what not were created to overcome the biggest design flaw of all, roots will clog up the valve shut-off mechanism and flood your house. Everything about autopots is not very canna compatible I'd say. They do work, but you definitely need the anti-root gold disc (Which are know not to work anyway) and airdomes. Air pumps make noise, I'm tired of noise. One of the main reasons I backed out of RDWC.

This system is ridiculously simpler than autopots. Impossible for roots to block the valve, no need for extra anything. You can set each pot to take different quantities of water for each plant that drink more or less. No over-watering one pot while under-watering the next! Battery operated programable water timer lets you dial in feeding schedule with precision. You can perfectly dial in wet/dry cycles! Brilliantly simple and astonishingly effective!

I was worried bottom feeding would hinder performance, but in fact I saw the opposite. Getting fabulous results - granted I've only got one grow under my belt with this system using mapito (which I now know is not fantastic as a wicking medium at all) and another night queen in coco about 3 weeks 'til harvest. Coco is the shniztezbangermoog for this system!!

I still cannot help myself and I do still top feed manually every once in a while. But I am noticing that the less I top feed, the more they seem to positively react to bottom feeding. Why contradict nature? Bottom feeding they seem to drink more than top feeding.

I just still love tending to them, and I use top feed to shower bacteria over the rhizosphere (def. not through the 750L rez). But I have "modded"/adapted the water line to automate top feeding too. I havent tested this yet though...

The fabric pots are awesome. Super easy to clean and air prune just like Air-Pots or Rhizo-Pots. After years of experimentation (as this forum is testament to my quasi-obsesive and constant experimentation with every conceivable system out there) I really think I've found my ideal system. This is by far the least hands-on system I've ever tried. No electricity, no noise, no drama, no pumps, no nothing. I literally just fill up half of the 750L water tank every 2 weeks and do nothing expect pick up dead leafs here and there . I could easily go away for 2 month in veg with just this kit alone and come back to healthy plants. My undocumented record is 1 month and 1 week.

I'll make a post showing it off better soon enough!

Here's a youtube video of theirs

 

[Corgy]

Liar.......you ARE trying to get me divorced.......lol!!!!

Great reply, and I hear you. I'm quite pleased with my Autopots, but couldn't help trying out WaterFarms and AquaFarms and they are great too, in my set-up I actually like them better than the Autopots, yeah, with coco.

Suppose next up is a rendezvous with an Alien armed with an Easy Feeder..........suppose.....who am I kidding!

One observation, Alien touts the 16 mm lines that won't clog (which Autopots are very prone to, especially with 6 mm lines) and yet the nozzle to attach the feeder valve is 6 mm.......

 

[Groff]

@Corgy - nozzle 6mm ? Where did you see that? I'm almost certain it isn't, but could be wrong of course. Maybe I'm missing something? It seems 16mm all the way into the valve.

Now, once it hits the valve there is some reduction there. I was actually a little worried there would be potential clogging of the valve, salt builds up fast. This will be my third run, zero issues so far. I do clean everything the best I can between crops. But I guess having 16mm feeding into 6mm vale is still better than having 6mm all the way. There is bigger pressure into the valve, so also less prone to clogging.

Here is the first timelapse loool … had this done the first time I set up the system, to time how long the last pot would take to fill up so I could programme the timer. The first pots closer to the rez fill up faster of course. Took 9:15 minutes.

 

[Corgy]

6 mm nozzle..... My bad, I could have sworn, but I got that from Alien's flood and drain system...

...... In my defense, it was some DP Think Big

 I sincerely and profusely apologise and now I'll go

What is the size of your pots and the dimensions?

I looks to me like the tray is one-size-for-all, from the 10 to 30 L pots......Their website is not very forthcoming on those little details..... Does the 30 L pot have the same base dimensions as the 30 L pot which is then just higher?

Still can't believe I never came across this system before, never saw it mentioned anywhere..... Perhaps Alien should consider the wisdom of creating a separate website for this system only....

 

[Eekman]

Alright Goff, I read up on the autopots, and now I find these. I will see how this goes, as a reference.

Should be fun.