Ah the China effect. I appreciate your input. I see a good number of our members do use one. I am so far not a fan of eatables. Too slow to kick in and so varied of a result. Now that is just what I have found when I used them. These have all been "store" bought products. I have never had brownies or other food baked with canna butter. So I will ponder this for a while. again thank you.
I make Canna Oil, then generally use it brownies or anything that requires cooking oil. Fast hitting and strong. I used to use sunflower oil but have switched to canola oil now. Takes about 5 hours which includes the decarb time. The whole shipping error last week for my COB was due to the brownies. Lol.

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For sure, there is no dosage control with these products. That is why I am so happy with my rosin chocolate bars. They are very consistent for dosing. Yes it can take two hours for the effects to take hold but they last much longer upto 10 hours for me. If I need instant relief I vape some rosin thinned with EJmix, Terpenes, and or Puff Magic. Two hits and I am off to lala land.

This is what I'm planning to do make vapes it's the only reason I want to start growing lol vaping is soooooo discreet :)
 
Today is 2-28-2018

I will be starting a new journal in a week. My hope is to have them planted by March 8th.

I am staying with all the same hard-ware. I will use all new tubing for air domes and for water lines.

6 autopilots will be running. They will hold 3 from Fast Buds...Gorilla Glue, Green Crack, LSD-25. 1 from Dutch Passion ... Mazar. 1 from Royal Queen ... Royal Critical. 1 from Sweet Seeds ... Jack 47. All will be AUTOs. I will send out invite once I start my third grow.

Just call me crazy

:baked:

Thanks everyone.
 
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Hey Nosias, looking forward to following your 3rd grow, when you kick off pls include me in your tagging so I can follow. In the meantime, I have a few questions about your Dutch Passion Blackberry Kush experience. I scanned pretty much all of your second grow thread, most enjoyable read & congrats on your final results.

I was REALLY excited about this plant as it grew. Early into the veg cycle it started developing what looked like BLACK centers in all leaf clusters. As it aged and started showing flowers, the color spread until the entire bud cluster appeared black. As the buds developed, the black transitioned to purple, and was one of the most beautiful strains I have ever grown. I got even more purple than you experienced in your grow. The plant in my avatar is BBK.
HOWEVER - as the plant matured, the calyxes opened up, and by harvest they were quite fluffy. As the buds dried and cured, they became even LESS dense, and lost most of whatever poor flavor it had earlier in the drying / curing cycle. It did retain all of the purple color through a two month cure, and the smoke quality is very good - 8 out of 10? but t
he taste reminds me way too much of Mexican dirt weed- you remember, the bricks we used to get in the 70's that was water-cured in dirty assed ditch water while the whole harvest was being taken.
So a few rambling questions for you:
You said your plant developed an intense orange aroma as it matured, and if I recall accurately (I was smoking BBK when I read your thread so my recall might have been off ;) ) you said that aroma stayed through cure? I believe your harvest was mid-December, two weeks earlier than mine. So how is the taste and aroma now that it's cured longer?

How was the bud density of your BBK compared to the other strains you grew? Mine suffered here, see-through wispy.

Your yield was an oz better than mine. I'm happy for you, and that's not in itself so meaningful to me, except that over the last several years I've transitioned to only do single plant grows, concentrating on per-plant yield. M
y yield was subpar, 104g / 3.7oz. cured, when I am used to two to three times that amount per plant in my past grows using the same tent / light / nute system.
I'm curious to figure if I had a bad phenotype that contributed to our differences? I'll drop a couple of my pic's here after this post, for your comparison.

Last, you said none of your plants stretched significantly & I'm looking for clues here.
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ver the last couple of years, I've begun transitioning from HID to LED lighting. As experience has started making the connections, I've tallied four LED grows have been great bud quality and yield, including an all-time single-plant high of 11.76oz.. But surprisingly, NONE of my LED grows have stretched at all. That 11.76 oz grow never went over 10" above my ebb 'nGro container. Compared to all nine of my previous autoflower grows under HID, in which every one of those stretched. I reverted my BBK grow to HID to test this theory, and it DID stretch.
So my rambling question on this topic is, what was the distance between your plant canopy and your light?
In my past HID experience I've settled around 12 - 14" from the bulb to the plant canopy during full bloom cycle. And virtually all of my old photoperiod grows, and all HID Auto grows, have stretched. Usually 2-3X for photoperiods, and at least 1X for auto's. Using approximately the same spacing for my LED's again, NONE have stretched. So my suspicion(s) with LED is that more distance may be needed to encourage a healthy stretch? But my current grow of Dutch Passion Blue-AutoMazar, with LED at 18 - 20" above the plant canopy, is not stretching either.

I'm going to be watching as many auto grows as I can to see if my theory holds - that auto's won't stretch under LED's as well (or at all???). Do I need to veg all my auto's under HID to encourage a healthy stretch, then finish bloom under LED hoping for increased bud growth and density? Can I accomplish the same thing by raising the LED higher above the plant canopy?

Thanks for letting me ramble through this using your thread as a sounding board. I need to start a thread on this topic and track it diligently until I get to the bottom of this. Probably WILL do that after I return from vacation later in the month (I'm an ORF as well, so I also get to come and go whenever the #~@# I please). But for now, seeing a common thread in the BBK, I figure I'll get started with putting the thought to paper... uuuhhh, magnetic ink, that is :)

Looking forward to your next grow, Bro. In the meantime I'll be in KeyWest for St. Patty's so I'll' have one or three for ya. Until later, may your right hand always be stretched out in friendship, but never in want.

 
Couple of my pic's as promised:
This one was early veg, around day 24. You commented the black in your strain only showed on the backs of your fan leaves; mine showed dead center of every leaf cluster as pistils started showing:

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This one was just before harvest. Only the fan leaves retained any semblance of green; all sugar / finger leaves were purple. But if you zoom into any of these you can see the open calyx's that I'm afraid hurt my yield.
Incidentally, I found it more difficult to discern trichrome color on the front of these purple / black leaves, but if I flipped them over to the rear, the ambers showed much better.
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Later, my Friend.
 
You said your plant developed an intense orange aroma as it matured, and if I recall accurately (I was smoking BBK when I read your thread so my recall might have been off ;) ) you said that aroma stayed through cure? I believe your harvest was mid-December, two weeks earlier than mine. So how is the taste and aroma now that it's cured longer?
The BBK still smells orangey to me. It is not as strong of a smell now but it is still there. The taste is the same tho.

How was the bud density of your BBK compared to the other strains you grew? Mine suffered here, see-through wispy.
The buds were very tight as were all of my ladies in this grow. I was very pleased.

I'm curious to figure if I had a bad phenotype that contributed to our differences? I'll drop a couple of my pic's here after this post, for your comparison.
I tend to lean towards the plant itself. All are unique and perhaps the one you had gave you her best effort. Tho it was not what you were used to. It happens. Dutch Passion is a solid, solid breeder. I would say you did not get the best they have to offer.
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NONE of my LED grows have stretched at all.....
So my rambling question on this topic is, what was the distance between your plant canopy and your light?
I see no
stretch with my ChilLED Tech 400w light. The ladies are about 14" inch tall. This is fine with me. If I grow a plant 4 feet tall and only the top 12-15 inches get flower, then the rest is waste. I had my lights at 36" during veg. Then 14 - 18" in flower.
 
OK cool thanks for sharing your results & info. Hmmm, 36" from the canopy during veg... that seems to substantiate my suspicion that raising the LED higher during veg WON'T restore the stretch I'm used to seeing. I think I'll try another round of the BBK next summer, other strains in the plans before then.
BTW, the Dutch Passion Cinderella- Jack I finished the first of Feb. was amazing. Rock hard dense nuggets, 7oz even, cured and jarred. It's a kick ass high & great for the wife's pain needs. And the Blue Auto-Mazar going in my tent now looks like a winner but bit on lower yield side. We'll see.
Thanks, again, looking forward to your next grow.
 
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