New Grower Pay It Forward Seeds

[SkatterBrayne]

Non-profit seed organization
There is a good model being used for Vegetables and other food crops.

It works like this;
You sell seeds in rich counties like the USA and UK.
Use the money to finance free seeds to 3rd world farmers
With information on how to grow and breed, plant selection and seed production and so on, with the goal of turning these farmers into seed producers that can provide Vegetables Seeds at a price that others 3rd world farmers can afford.

Thats a great model. I have often wondered why something like that combined with a hydroponic system taking advantage of basic physics hasnt been implimented on a large scale in arid regions such as africa... It would be highly effective I would think.

 

[simple420]

Dude a mix pack or pot of luck pack would be so cool.

WHY?

%100 ruderalis is probably no fun to smoke if you can

The beans have hyper genetics. Not junk!

Constantly updating the mix breed with different genetics will keep the batch going,

It could be like the San Francisco Sour Dough, started from the bottom Hop digity

Simply re add one of the original or back cross the preferred genetics sparingly, don't see why this wont work.

Now if it was a group effort then I could see a problem occurring, people always distrust craftsmanship.

Imagine you get sent male photo seeds of dirt weed dusted in its pollen set up ready to go and ruin your batch... terrible.

But as an individual effort I see it as a good thing. But I would keep adding to its genetics even if you are "ripping it off" who knows maybe one day people will be like "yeah just grow that photo and start your strain from 'pay it forward' "
GoooAuto

 

[Zygote]

Thats a great model. I have often wondered why something like that combined with a hydroponic system taking advantage of basic physics hasnt been implimented on a large scale in arid regions such as africa... It would be highly effective I would think.

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[gradolabs]

I was gunna say, hydroponics is out when you barely have enough drinking water as it is. But simple designs like this which we take for granted in the developed world can open a lot of doors for countries who face such difficulties.

But I digress. You could make something that helps people yodabuds. I say go for it.

 

[yodabuds]

I was gunna say, hydroponics is out when you barely have enough drinking water as it is. But simple designs like this which we take for granted in the developed world can open a lot of doors for countries who face such difficulties.

But I digress. You could make something that helps people yodabuds. I say go for it.

Thanks for the encouragement! I AM GOING to make something that will help others. My mind is SET! What I'm not GOING to do is do it in a haphazard way. As AFN freed me from my dealer I am hoping with everyone's assistance I will be able to one day get an initative going to give back. My entire idea of the mix seeds was a) to offer meds that really would hold no value for people to use as breeding stock. B) they were femmed and the noob would have meds soon rather waste time sexing, c) I honestly thought that even though other genetics were used not one single seed in that mix is a replica of anyone's original strain...d) I was not trying to take away sales or be a ripper from anyone, I was wanting to do this through RCMC, as it would only be a seedbank of that nature that would even contemplate such an idea. Also I figured it would do nothing more than actually generate more sales, why would any breeder get upset if they are selling regular seeds, and to get a pack of the free seeds which would be fem and harder to copy or have value in being used, the person would HAVE to buy seeds from said breeders? That was my thinking behind that all.
After getting input from others and seeing their side I see both sides of the coin. I am always an open minded person an like to see things from everyone's point of view. That bit of using the
Mix seeds and coming across as a ripper got me thinking even and out side of the box of that issue. The more I thought about its just not a sound idea. I am just assuming what these beans were hit with, none of it was planned (actually pissed as I was not looking for a seeded harvest) so the beans could actually be from a plant in the over stuffed tent that could have hermied. That would NOT be the experience I would want a noob to have. So that entire idea is scrapped

Instead I am going to focus on making something of my own. I don't care if it takes years, its a project. In the meantime to get that itch of helping others out I will donate instead to fabulous ideas like the one with the water... :thumbs:
So come join me on my ride. Its going to be one long journey but I think the end of the trip will be oh so worth it!
Just got things underway today and just got a pot prepped to pop one of those very hard to find original lowryder's
This week should be the arrival of my 1'x1' gl40 grow tent, and my bsled 135w UFO(90w actual draw)....
again thank you all for all the participation in this thread. Its helped me get more focused.

:smokebuds:

 

[OOOGaUtO]

Great idea and do your thang brother Yoda you know I'm here for pay it forward bro. Eternal gratitude. Thanks

 

[Wet_Charles]

pay it forward seeds should be more of an idea for seedbanks to accept seeds from everyone all around, I wanna donate some seeds too!

 

[Bazooka Joe]

Yoodabuds

Maybe you should mail your donation beans to someone who has it figured out currently as you mentioned the AFN Dragon efforts here, perhaps they would be willing to pass them along to people who truly need the assistance.

:no: HOWEVER
Also something worth noting ,it might be much more thoughtful and more effort,... to give a reliable proven seed stock to donate, some needy med patients will find random unproven MIXED genetics could be a less viable answer to their needs and constraints.

If the medically needy are the real intended beneficiary s of any commendable efforts , and not just some new growers who might not have much money for trademark beans.

After all is said and done,
It could be sort of cruel... like sending unknown bag seeds to an already challenged grower, who's difficulty may be much more than you realize to do a grow.

With possible disappointments or failed results on a grow they need prompt good results a lot more than non medical smokers or edible users,etc.


*Medical users need an almost fool proof genetic to afford them a greater likely hood of success.
** Often people who are ill will require a helper who may lack garden skills and a sturdy dependable strain will increase the odds of success, in my opinion I suggest saving your mixes for NON med growers eager to experiment and not in a dire need of good results.

:list:
My added note here is only trying to point out that IF you actually do get to doing something MIXED Beans are NOT something a medically needy person should be given, and certainly not unknowns that might not even auto~flower correctly .





peace amigos

 

[yodabuds]

Yoodabuds

Maybe you should mail your donation beans to someone who has it figured out currently as you mentioned the AFN Dragon efforts here, perhaps they would be willing to pass them along to people who truly need the assistance.

:no: HOWEVER
Also something worth noting ,it might be much more thoughtful and more effort,... to give a reliable proven seed stock to donate, some needy med patients will find random unproven MIXED genetics could be a less viable answer to their needs and constraints.

If the medically needy are the real intended beneficiary s of any commendable efforts , and not just some new growers who might not have much money for trademark beans.

After all is said and done,
It could be sort of cruel... like sending unknown bag seeds to an already challenged grower, who's difficulty may be much more than you realize to do a grow.

With possible disappointments or failed results on a grow they need prompt good results a lot more than non medical smokers or edible users,etc.


*Medical users need an almost fool proof genetic to afford them a greater likely hood of success.
** Often people who are ill will require a helper who may lack garden skills and a sturdy dependable strain will increase the odds of success, in my opinion I suggest saving your mixes for NON med growers eager to experiment and not in a dire need of good results.

:list:
My added note here is only trying to point out that IF you actually do get to doing something MIXED Beans are NOT something a medically needy person should be given, and certainly not unknowns that might not even auto~flower correctly .





peace amigos

Ahh after much thinking I even came up with my own conclusion that the mix bag of seeds is a horrible idea on many levels... This was all again NOTHING more than a sounding board for an idea I got a plan starting to form. First order of business is to pop one of those lowryders
So I got a plan and am more focused. In the meantime I NEED to be sure to start getting some meds! I figure this project is a VERY LONG TERM one.... In the meantime the next few harvests will have to be just med runs...
Hoping to god my Blood Dragon and Grapefruit have not been hit with anything....

 

[Wet_Charles]

I would like collection of 1 million beans and then do a seedrun with all the in the world and do the ultimate mystery pack