Outdoor Outdoor UK, first time - journal & ref

[Peteey010]

I have an og kush from shortstuff seeds with messed up genetics. She was supposed to be an auto but didn't start flowering until 10 weeks she's huge now and i was forced to move her to a tent due to neighbours and relatives.
But I digress (mango haze has a hold on me today)
if your concerned about them getting too big do like Krug suggested and bend them over and tie them that way they will bush outwards rather than skywards, I used to grow some of my outdoor photos like this due to a short fence
you will also find it may increase your final harvest a bit

 

[Dazed]

HELP!
So, my friend that gave me the seeds in the first place came round last night to have a look and was expecting to see some serious bud action. He seemed surprised at the ABH being too lengthy and showing little sign of buds and concluded "they're probably not ABH. To be honest, they look more like supers, the seeds probably got mixed up somewhere" (which is why I ended up with them!) He then suggested "they 'might' even be super cali haze, but I don't reckon you'll ever know for sure".

And at day 39 with just a few pistils, I think he may be right.

HELP!

So firstly - do they look like 40 day old supers grow outside by a novice? They are at the taller end of 18" - 24". The last post I did here with photos shows the 'ABH' a couple of days ago full height etc.

I need advice as to how to proceed with the grow please. If they're likely to get big (which I suspect) I am thinking I might prune the tips and encourage a bushier plant because my garden is overlooked by neighbours so low and bushy is best. Is this a good idea? Will I sacrifice much smokable bud? Will the plant produce more? At what stage is it too late to tip prune? If I'm going to do it, I'll do it now before they put too much into budding. i can;t seem to find a lot ofn the forum about supers - where do i look?

Here are some pics of them as of now, I've tried to get some close ups of the tips/nodes to you clever dudes can asses the situation and steer me right!:

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Help me super auto growers, help me!

I'm no super grower by any stretch of the imagination, but I have two Short Stuff Auto Assassins, both germed' at the same time. One is outside in greenhouse, the other indoors in my closet under LED. The closet plants is WEEKS ahead of the greenhouse plant. The one indoors has a bunch of pistols already and has stopped vertical growth, outdoors is only on it's 4th set of leaves (I think lol-cnt remember) and is almost as tall. I tend to think of indoor growing being-advanced super growing lol, which really it is! Another thing to consider is that you are not just growing outdoors, but growing in soil in the ground. I'm sure that will affect the turn around time too.




Dazed..

 

[Somerset]

The problem I have with 'The Bending Option' is that the stems are now too brittle to bend. I might be able to angle the top half a bit but too much stress low down will snap those puppies.

If they really are supers (I still have no idea, I've never seen one) then I think my best option is to remove the growing tip and everything down to the next node to encourage sideways growth/bushiness. Not only should this help camouflage the plant a little bit, but I think that if they are supers, they could handle it well. Whatever they are, they are vigourous, I measured a leaf the same size as my hand today... is that normal for an auto?

 

[Peteey010]

The problem with topping them is that you may end up with plants just as big but with 2 heads :no: which is ok if your growing photos as it does increase yield but how it would affect an auto I'm not sure.
I broke the top off my og by mistake and now have a 3 headed monster thats nearly too tall for my tent
I would try to bend them, looking at your pictures you should be able to get them to at least lean over a fair way.
The way i used to do my photos was to tie soft string as far up the main stem as poosible then pull i over so they go into kind of an arch if you can get them that far if not you should at least get the top off the vertical to say about 45 degrees

 

[Dr Who]

If you try to train them over you may find that it is easiest to do things gradually over the course of a week, just pulling them over a little more each day. It can be quite easy to break the stems if you are over enthusiastic, although they can often be splinted and make a good recovery if you do.

I tried last year to encourage flowering in some reluctant flowering "autos" by feeding with a flowering type feed, I can't say that it helped although it might have caused them to flower more quickly when they were eventually forced.

 

[Balarama]

As the guys say, bend the plant little by little and shape it to stay down and sideways. My copacabana superauto was knocked sideways by a storm and recovered naturally with no fuss.
Just don't bend it in only one place or it will snap.

It may also be a non auto plant, a normal photo, so snapping the top wouldn't hurt her much.

Good luck

 

[Somerset]

I just found out from my friend that gave me the magic beans, my 'super unknowns' (maybe the Soundgarden album gave someone the idea?!) will most likely be either 'Super Cali Haze' or 'Super Stinky'... On one hand I'm super chuffed because reading about SCH made me really want to try some next year, but on the other - they make take too long for UK to be any good) or get too big.

So, I cut out the leading tips + 1or 2 more nodes (see below), then have bent them over and tied them to a bamboo pole knocked into the ground at angle for some LST in the hope they'll carry on but in a lower, more bushy state...

Fingers crossed, the weed gods are feeling favourable!



They only took about an hour and half for the leaves and growing tips to move back round towards the light.

 

[Somerset]

Having bent the main stems as much as I dare yesterday, I went back out today and applied some extra training. Firstly, using tent pegs and garden twine, I bent the tops of the main stems a little further than yesterday so they are nearly horizontal now. Secondly, I took secondary branches and pinned them away from the main stem to allow maximum light into them and reducing the height simultaneously. They're much lower now and should bush up nicely providing they continue to grow happily. I'll post an overall photo when the plants have settled in a few days after leaves and tips have turned back around and they've put on a tiny bit more growth.



One thing I did notice was some yellow veining (not sure what its called!) which could be a deficiency of some kind, but at the moment just looks (to me) like really young, healthy growth. Please have a look at this photos and tell me otherwise if you want to. They've had trace elements etc so should be fine, but I want to check!

Alternatively - I also wondered if it might help identify these super-unknowns ?? Does anyone recognise it?

 

[Dreadlow]

Hey dude, awesome grow! Im glad im getting the chance to see how it goes, we've been getting some stunning weather here in dorset and im sure its the same where you are. It's been making me think about setting something up for next year. Ill definately be following!

Peace

 

[maffro]

Sorry lover dont recognise those plants. Grew both the supers you mentioned last season outdoor uk and they where covered in pre flowers about this time. The superstink is a big bushy vigorous girl and the cali slim and elegantish!