I also am looking forward to getting outside. I've been a grower 20+ years last few years I gave up cloning and I have grown fem seeds outdoors with good success, thought this year I would try some auto flower as well. Haven't found much info on juicing and wondering what is best. If best not to juice in first two weeks and girls start to bud right away do you use veg juice at all or go straight to bud juice? Would a solution of rooting hormone be any help? I live in a climate where I can expect frost in October, so when would be ideal time to get outside June? any advice is appreciated thank you
Thread read. Mind blown. Should probably go to sleep and let this digest in my dreams...but...
A couple things first though. The coyote piss seemed like an awesome idea to me for some reason (at first read anyways). There's lots of bastardly bunnies around here and the coyote piss would certainly be a deterrent. Then I remembered that I have coyotes around here too (like a lot...they are probably howling and yipping outside right now if I went out there). I have a feelin' that if I started squirtin coyote piss around my grow site I may decrease my potential rabbit problem...but possibly create a more dangerous one. Coyotes can be pretty territorial and aggressive creatures (we have some pretty aggressive ones around here...not scared of humans at all...that whole urban sprawl/loss of habitat thing). Especially 'alpha males'. If you've never encountered some aggressive coyotes in the wild, alone, then let me tell you first hand...not cool. Pretty hair-raising experience. So I'm pretty sure the "sprayin some coyote piss around your grow" advice to ward off other critters needs to be taken with a grain of salt...especially if you know you have a healthy, wild coyote population in the area. Hunters use the stuff for a reason...its great for attracting real live coyotes lol...And they will stick around an area for a while if they think other coyotes are in the area.
In other news the guy who said use ur own urine hit the nail on the head with that one. First piss of the morning is the best (most ketones and toxins i believe=most 'human' smell). Bottle it if ya have to(gross you say? you'd rather play with coyote piss lol?)...did this one year while growing a veggie garden. Bottled it up in old gatorade bottles and then spread it around the outer edge of the plot when I went out to water. Deer issues went to zero. Rabbit damage went to near zero...or at least from what I could tell. Bottomline it works.
To the person with the post on making sure you have geotagging off before u take ANY pics on a phone or camera...KUDOS to you! I forgot all about that even tho I had learned of this some time ago. Had to check my own phone to make sure it was turned off (it was). It's a good habit to check this every time u plan on snapping pics before taking ANY encriminating or controversial photos. If you don't know how to check if ur device has this feature (most do these days im afraid) or how to turn it off then GOOGLE IT NOW! There's no excuse for ignorance when it comes to this one. It only takes one photo in the wrong hands to get you ripped or build a rather strong criminal case against you if ur growing activities are frowned upon by local LEO.
I will ask about some other things tomorrow after I scan back through this thread and remember the parts that caught my fancy and peaked my curiosity...but for now I must sleep...
Peace
-Shadowbuck
A couple things first though. The coyote piss seemed like an awesome idea to me for some reason (at first read anyways). There's lots of bastardly bunnies around here and the coyote piss would certainly be a deterrent. Then I remembered that I have coyotes around here too (like a lot...they are probably howling and yipping outside right now if I went out there). I have a feelin' that if I started squirtin coyote piss around my grow site I may decrease my potential rabbit problem...but possibly create a more dangerous one. Coyotes can be pretty territorial and aggressive creatures (we have some pretty aggressive ones around here...not scared of humans at all...that whole urban sprawl/loss of habitat thing). Especially 'alpha males'. If you've never encountered some aggressive coyotes in the wild, alone, then let me tell you first hand...not cool. Pretty hair-raising experience. So I'm pretty sure the "sprayin some coyote piss around your grow" advice to ward off other critters needs to be taken with a grain of salt...especially if you know you have a healthy, wild coyote population in the area. Hunters use the stuff for a reason...its great for attracting real live coyotes lol...And they will stick around an area for a while if they think other coyotes are in the area.
In other news the guy who said use ur own urine hit the nail on the head with that one. First piss of the morning is the best (most ketones and toxins i believe=most 'human' smell). Bottle it if ya have to(gross you say? you'd rather play with coyote piss lol?)...did this one year while growing a veggie garden. Bottled it up in old gatorade bottles and then spread it around the outer edge of the plot when I went out to water. Deer issues went to zero. Rabbit damage went to near zero...or at least from what I could tell. Bottomline it works.
To the person with the post on making sure you have geotagging off before u take ANY pics on a phone or camera...KUDOS to you! I forgot all about that even tho I had learned of this some time ago. Had to check my own phone to make sure it was turned off (it was). It's a good habit to check this every time u plan on snapping pics before taking ANY encriminating or controversial photos. If you don't know how to check if ur device has this feature (most do these days im afraid) or how to turn it off then GOOGLE IT NOW! There's no excuse for ignorance when it comes to this one. It only takes one photo in the wrong hands to get you ripped or build a rather strong criminal case against you if ur growing activities are frowned upon by local LEO.
I will ask about some other things tomorrow after I scan back through this thread and remember the parts that caught my fancy and peaked my curiosity...but for now I must sleep...
Peace
-Shadowbuck
Ok guys...Big day here today. Been real busy and still have some more things to do. But I wanted to post a couple things here before I go back to said activities. I hear a lot on here about growing in and around briar bushes. I have lots of briars around here (mainly blk rasp i think and a few blackberries) and had already been considering using them in some way to my advantage. Mainly because I distinctly remember walking around last year and saying to myself "damn these briars would make great cover for some plants" lol.
My question is; Could you guys explain a little bit more to this concept? I've heard a lot about people walking acrossed planks into a giant thicket...only to clear out a spot to plant. Which I would think would defeat any possible camo/screen effect when seen from above (think airplane/heli lol). So basically Ive only heard about using them as a ground level screen and physical deterent. Or maybe I just misunderstood (I was extremely tired when I read this thread last night). My bushes around here are usually around 8-15' in diameter...at least the ones I would be planting near. I was wondering if it was possible to plant a hardened stable plant, either in submerged pots or holes, like down kinda in a semi sparse part of the briar canopy.
Let me try to explain a little better. Think of a willow tree. The shape in which it grows is not unlike my briars around here (although my briars are smaller and will hurt you lol). Like on the edge of the willow where limbs arc down toward the ground...but just on the inside of the arc (between the trunk and the edges of drooping limbs). My thought was that with a good site selection, a little practice and some good seasonal timing, one could put a young but stable plant there in the spring while the briar was still free of very much foliage (my briars currently have like no leafs and havent greened back up yet from winter...and dont fully bush up til like july/aug). The plant would still get plenty of light as a couple bare briar twigs hangin over it isnt gonna block much light (like none).
Then as the plant grows and begins to stretch in the early summer months it can begin to grow up through the briar limbs (kinda like an indoor scrog growing and stretching up through a screen). With a little bit of assistance and the occasional trim (of plant and briar) by the time harvest comes around all anybody would see from a distance is a normal looking berry bush. But a close inspection would reveal colas and buds growing there in one edge of the briar. And from above it would be nearly impossible to spot as a couple well placed (and now fully foliaged) briar limbs draped on or around the plant would in theory break up the aerial outline and image to near invisibility (the smaller the scale the better. not much gonna hide a 10ft pot tree lol...but I would think it would work well for autos and indicas). Just a thought. Never grown outdoors (not weed anyways) so this is all just theory. Have picked a lot of berries tho so I do know what I'm talkin about with the time frames for how those grow...at least in my area.
A couple things of importance tho would be... Briars and berries are heavy feeders and have invasive roots. I've pulled out 30 ft long roots out of the ground from a 10' briars before. It just kept going and going. So I think permeable grow bags/pots and dug holes would be not work for this. The bush would rob ur plan of nutes. Buried hard pots would almost be a requirement. And the other thing would be that such a method could possibly require more "personal presence" in the area to maintian the concealment and the occasional trim (to ensure ur plant gets adequate light and doesnt get smothered out). Extra trips in and out could be required and as such one would need to be very aware of leaving tracks or paths, or signs of your actions.
Anyways that is all for now. If somebody has tried the above and it worked or failed I'd like to hear about it.
Later,
-Shadowbuck
My question is; Could you guys explain a little bit more to this concept? I've heard a lot about people walking acrossed planks into a giant thicket...only to clear out a spot to plant. Which I would think would defeat any possible camo/screen effect when seen from above (think airplane/heli lol). So basically Ive only heard about using them as a ground level screen and physical deterent. Or maybe I just misunderstood (I was extremely tired when I read this thread last night). My bushes around here are usually around 8-15' in diameter...at least the ones I would be planting near. I was wondering if it was possible to plant a hardened stable plant, either in submerged pots or holes, like down kinda in a semi sparse part of the briar canopy.
Let me try to explain a little better. Think of a willow tree. The shape in which it grows is not unlike my briars around here (although my briars are smaller and will hurt you lol). Like on the edge of the willow where limbs arc down toward the ground...but just on the inside of the arc (between the trunk and the edges of drooping limbs). My thought was that with a good site selection, a little practice and some good seasonal timing, one could put a young but stable plant there in the spring while the briar was still free of very much foliage (my briars currently have like no leafs and havent greened back up yet from winter...and dont fully bush up til like july/aug). The plant would still get plenty of light as a couple bare briar twigs hangin over it isnt gonna block much light (like none).
Then as the plant grows and begins to stretch in the early summer months it can begin to grow up through the briar limbs (kinda like an indoor scrog growing and stretching up through a screen). With a little bit of assistance and the occasional trim (of plant and briar) by the time harvest comes around all anybody would see from a distance is a normal looking berry bush. But a close inspection would reveal colas and buds growing there in one edge of the briar. And from above it would be nearly impossible to spot as a couple well placed (and now fully foliaged) briar limbs draped on or around the plant would in theory break up the aerial outline and image to near invisibility (the smaller the scale the better. not much gonna hide a 10ft pot tree lol...but I would think it would work well for autos and indicas). Just a thought. Never grown outdoors (not weed anyways) so this is all just theory. Have picked a lot of berries tho so I do know what I'm talkin about with the time frames for how those grow...at least in my area.
A couple things of importance tho would be... Briars and berries are heavy feeders and have invasive roots. I've pulled out 30 ft long roots out of the ground from a 10' briars before. It just kept going and going. So I think permeable grow bags/pots and dug holes would be not work for this. The bush would rob ur plan of nutes. Buried hard pots would almost be a requirement. And the other thing would be that such a method could possibly require more "personal presence" in the area to maintian the concealment and the occasional trim (to ensure ur plant gets adequate light and doesnt get smothered out). Extra trips in and out could be required and as such one would need to be very aware of leaving tracks or paths, or signs of your actions.
Anyways that is all for now. If somebody has tried the above and it worked or failed I'd like to hear about it.
Later,
-Shadowbuck
Sound like you've put a lot of thought in this mate and have a good plan,you also know your area and climate well so you could be onto a winner.:thumbs:
the idea of getting into the middle of the briar patch with planks is to remove the planks after use but leave a hose and funnel hidden in there the briar will grow bac round and leave your weed hidden bit your still able to water
yes... for a complete newbie... take a 20-30 rubbermaid container fill it with promix that is not hydrated... pack it out to a very wet area of a swamp, some where where your boots will be wet and your standing in wet ground or a couple inches of water...
once you find your location and place for your rubbermaid...spread down 5-10lbs of lime, then cut the bottom of your bin out and flip it over on your wet limed ground.
Leave and come back in 2 or 3 days promix has sucked up plenty of water by now... mix in 1 cup of osmcote per 15 gals of promix... leave and come back in a week or 2 to plant your seedlings...
No watering ever needed, but you still need to watch for animals, mainly mice and rats that chew off the bark of the plant.
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