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[jeffsos3000]

I think you still have some time for bud fattening. Leaves are looking mighty green and if im not mistaken close to the end the cola leaves start yellowing more. Ive read about a couple of grows wear the last 3 weeks buds become more puff. As to water curing I am very intrested to check your result. Id be scared sh*tless to soak my bud in water.

ha ha yeah i know what you mean about being afraid, personally im a very light and very random user, so im perfect candidate to try this curing method since even if it destroyed everything it wouldnt really bother me to much, id just grow another plant ha ha. but for others that are heavier users or daily then yes it would be a risk to try such a thing, especially on whole harvest. but its been interesting to read up on. it does have its dissadvantages, especially if your one for the flavour and aroma, it apparently pretty well strips all the terpenes from the bud, leaving it almost smelling like nothing, which is great for stealth smoking some say,lol. but its supposed to be the smoothest smoke you can get, so for me my house not smelling like pot when smoked and being much easier on my lungs are the big points to me. guess ill find out when the time comes how it goes. you also lose much more bud weight then dry curing, but the apparent trade off is a more potent bud becasue all the thc remains since its not water soluable, so takes less bud to get same level of stone, im not the gospil on this, its just what i have read.

 

[jeffsos3000]

well im no expert and i dont know about you guys but his is looking insanely frosty to me,lol. and i can swear there slowly fattening up a little every day, still barely any yellowing of any leaves happening yet. so i can only imagine whats going to continue to happen!

 

[LedGuy74]

oh also im thinking im going to continue feeding with bloom nutes right up until harvest, i know technically your supposed to flush for a week or so, but since im going to be going the water cure route ive heard its not necessary to flush swince the water cure pulls all thet stuff from the plant material. so my hope is that the extra bloom nute time will help with bud production right up to the end. but if im wrong on this please let me know.

I personally think thats a mistake... if you have green leaves you have all the nutrients the plant needs in my opinion even if the plant yellows out the last week or two (which I prefer) they will continue to pull what they need from the green fan leaves so its all about timing it right... plus I mean who doesnt like those fall colors lol

Not that feeding until harvest will absolutely ruin the buds or anything I just find it to be a huge waste of nutrients that can be saved for the next grow... nutes arent cheap I wouldnt use more than needed personally...


Also learning organic growing is beneficial too as you feed the microbes and they feed the soil and you can get away from buying nutrients period... a nice soil mix may cost a bit up front but when considering how much you have its cheaper by far... 50-60$ can get you 1-2 32gal trashcans full of soil which is cheaper then stuff like fox farms by far plus it requires no nutrients so long as you top dress with worm castings and compost and also worm casting teas ect to help microbe life. Just an idea as a nice 10gal pot full of organic soil could grow you a nice large plant with no chemicals... the hardest thing to find would be worm castings and the most expensive too.. I can typically find bags locally for 12-18@ a cubic foot which is a decent amount of worm shit lol. You could also start a worm colony.... but anyhow just figured id put my two cents in. If interested in organic soils let me know I can share some links and give you a nice list of materials needed..

My pics were from a salt based grow btw lol... Ive been doin both lately because well I started off with a dyna gro sample which gave me enough nutrients for years grow after grow for 30$... they no longer offer that sample anymore though unfortunately and it can be pricy... Ill continue doing it both ways until I run out of synthetic nutes and I do like doing it both ways but it really depends on pricing and if you can source quality materials locally or not.

 

[LedGuy74]

well im no expert and i dont know about you guys but his is looking insanely frosty to me,lol. and i can swear there slowly fattening up a little every day, still barely any yellowing of any leaves happening yet. so i can only imagine whats going to continue to happen! [emoji1]

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Trust me you are not wrong during this time of the grow you can notice obvious development every day with lots of plants. They look good and they are def starting to pack on that frost this is when things get fun... also if you want to get a good smell of the plant rub your fingers along the fan leaf stems and give your fingers a smell...



With salt based nutrients this is around the same ill feed my plants to the point of getting slightly burnt tips then ill keep it where it is unless I see obvious changes otherwise once every week or two ill gradually increase so long as the leaves dont get any more then slight burnt tips.

 

[jeffsos3000]

I personally think thats a mistake... if you have green leaves you have all the nutrients the plant needs in my opinion even if the plant yellows out the last week or two (which I prefer) they will continue to pull what they need from the green fan leaves so its all about timing it right... plus I mean who doesnt like those fall colors lol

Not that feeding until harvest will absolutely ruin the buds or anything I just find it to be a huge waste of nutrients that can be saved for the next grow... nutes arent cheap I wouldnt use more than needed personally...


Also learning organic growing is beneficial too as you feed the microbes and they feed the soil and you can get away from buying nutrients period... a nice soil mix may cost a bit up front but when considering how much you have its cheaper by far... 50-60$ can get you 1-2 32gal trashcans full of soil which is cheaper then stuff like fox farms by far plus it requires no nutrients so long as you top dress with worm castings and compost and also worm casting teas ect to help microbe life. Just an idea as a nice 10gal pot full of organic soil could grow you a nice large plant with no chemicals... the hardest thing to find would be worm castings and the most expensive too.. I can typically find bags locally for 12-18@ a cubic foot which is a decent amount of worm shit lol. You could also start a worm colony.... but anyhow just figured id put my two cents in. If interested in organic soils let me know I can share some links and give you a nice list of materials needed..

My pics were from a salt based grow btw lol... Ive been doin both lately because well I started off with a dyna gro sample which gave me enough nutrients for years grow after grow for 30$... they no longer offer that sample anymore though unfortunately and it can be pricy... Ill continue doing it both ways until I run out of synthetic nutes and I do like doing it both ways but it really depends on pricing and if you can source quality materials locally or not.

hey thanks for chiming in, i dont have any issues stopping my nutes as long as things are still going to continue to grow. my problem is that i have no idea how much longer this plant is going to go far before harvest, since this is my first ever time growing a plant. also i had been really interested in the super soil growing and had found some great soil recipies, the problem is im such a random light user, and ill only ever be growing one plant at a time in a 2x2 tent indoors, having gallons and gallons of soil would be serious overkill for me and id have nowhere to keep all that soil. not to mention i cant grow in anything larger then 3 gallon or its to big for my tent. cannabis isnt legal yet where i live, and even once it is legalized sometime soon apparently, the provincial rules where i live wont allow any to be legally grownpersonally. which is stupid,lol. so i cant exactly have a bunch of plants growing outside in large containers. now if i could find a recipe for only like 5 gallons of super soil mix then i would definitly give it a go.

so are you saying that if i continue nute feeding my leaves arent going to change colour? i did switch to bloom nutes which is pretty low on nitrogen, so i assumed the leaves would still colour change, but if not when will i know when to stop giving nutes to my plant? i have no idea how long this plant will take to finish to the point where im wanting to harvest so thats why i figured i would just keep the nutes going. especially considering that my nutes will probably go bad long before im able to use them all up,lol.

 

[LedGuy74]

yes! i have read through that thread and i have actually been using it as a guide for this grow. seems to be working for me so far. i was especially glad to read about the plant finishing past the breeders date. so im hoping itll go to the 10th or 11th week for sure.

Best thing to do is buy a jewelers loupe... ive bought a 60x-100x loupe that came with a phone case it connects to for my iphone for 6$ before... works great and can take pics of even a single trichome with patience and a steady hand. Great for checking amber though usually its best to start checking around the breeder date. And yes usually plants go 2-3 weeks past... I guess I was lucky lol only breeder seed ive grown was a SQ and it took seven weeks as promised... I kept cloning her and growing her and id always chop between days 55-60 of 12/12 not actual flower as with clones I find 12/12 to be the best day to count since you already know how it grows. But im not growin that plant anymore ive been growing quality bagseeds and I do have LSD and a pineapple chunk fem growing but this is my first grow with them... I have them in flower currently with my bagseeds but plan on revegging them and allowing them to get very bushy. Yeah bloom nutes should only have small nitro like a 1-2-4 or 1-3-4 or 1-4-4 something along those lines which is all the plants need... the plant I posted btw you can see its more then just nitro deficient thats why it has multiple colors not just a dull faded yellow that nitro deficiency’s show.

 

[jeffsos3000]

Trust me you are not wrong during this time of the grow you can notice obvious development every day with lots of plants. They look good and they are def starting to pack on that frost this is when things get fun... also if you want to get a good smell of the plant rub your fingers along the fan leaf stems and give your fingers a smell...



With salt based nutrients this is around the same ill feed my plants to the point of getting slightly burnt tips then ill keep it where it is unless I see obvious changes otherwise once every week or two ill gradually increase so long as the leaves dont get any more then slight burnt tips.

yeah im using sensi grow/bloom A abd B nutes, ive just been feeding half strength at every watering which in my pot and for my smaller plant seems to go around 4 days or so between waterings.

 

[jeffsos3000]

Best thing to do is buy a jewelers loupe... ive bought a 60x-100x loupe that came with a phone case it connects to for my iphone for 6$ before... works great and can take pics of even a single trichome with patience and a steady hand. Great for checking amber though usually its best to start checking around the breeder date. And yes usually plants go 2-3 weeks past... I guess I was lucky lol only breeder seed ive grown was a SQ and it took seven weeks as promised... I kept cloning her and growing her and id always chop between days 55-60 of 12/12 not actual flower as with clones I find 12/12 to be the best day to count since you already know how it grows. But im not growin that plant anymore ive been growing quality bagseeds and I do have LSD and a pineapple chunk fem growing but this is my first grow with them... I have them in flower currently with my bagseeds but plan on revegging them and allowing them to get very bushy.

yea this is an afghan kush ryder auto from royal queen i believe, breeder specs say harvest in 9 weeks, im at 8 weeks 5 days, so im hoping that it will go another 2 or 3 weeks. from what i can tell at this rate another 2 or 3 weeks should really give those buds a good chance to grow and fatten. and yes i plan to order a joulers poop from amazon in the next couple days as i dont currently have one. im definitly wanting to do a late harvest on this plant swince i really am looking for super heavy sedating effects/couch lock, as i use this mainly only for relaxing and sleep purposes.

 

[LedGuy74]

hey thanks for chiming in, i dont have any issues stopping my nutes as long as things are still going to continue to grow. my problem is that i have no idea how much longer this plant is going to go far before harvest, since this is my first ever time growing a plant. also i had been really interested in the super soil growing and had found some great soil recipies, the problem is im such a random light user, and ill only ever be growing one plant at a time in a 2x2 tent indoors, having gallons and gallons of soil would be serious overkill for me and id have nowhere to keep all that soil. not to mention i cant grow in anything larger then 3 gallon or its to big for my tent. cannabis isnt legal yet where i live, and even once it is legalized sometime soon apparently, the provincial rules where i live wont allow any to be legally grownpersonally. which is stupid,lol. so i cant exactly have a bunch of plants growing outside in large containers. now if i could find a recipe for only like 5 gallons of super soil mix then i would definitly give it a go.

so are you saying that if i continue nute feeding my leaves arent going to change colour? i did switch to bloom nutes which is pretty low on nitrogen, so i assumed the leaves would still colour change, but if not when will i know when to stop giving nutes to my plant? i have no idea how long this plant will take to finish to the point where im wanting to harvest so thats why i figured i would just keep the nutes going. especially considering that my nutes will probably go bad long before im able to use them all up,lol.

Thats why a loupe is good to have that away you know how far along the plant is.. for example if I saw my plants had all cloudy trichomes with 5-15% amber id start flushing because I know within 1-2 weeks itll be finished. There is no science to this if you just chop when you think it looks ready itll still be great smoke... but looking at trichs along with how the bud itself is developing and the hairs... you want the hairs to turn red and recede alongside the buds. They will look like actual buds by chop youll definitely know when they are ready and if you are unsure when the time comes post more pics... sometimes a good enough camera with a flash and zoom can give you an estimate of the amber trichs.

 

[LedGuy74]

yea this is an afghan kush ryder auto from royal queen i believe, breeder specs say harvest in 9 weeks, im at 8 weeks 5 days, so im hoping that it will go another 2 or 3 weeks. from what i can tell at this rate another 2 or 3 weeks should really give those buds a good chance to grow and fatten. and yes i plan to order a joulers poop from amazon in the next couple days as i dont currently have one. im definitly wanting to do a late harvest on this plant swince i really am looking for super heavy sedating effects/couch lock, as i use this mainly only for relaxing and sleep purposes.

If you are wanting a late harvest by the looks of that plant you have atleast a month... even an earlier harvest is 3 weeks away in my opinion. They should get a decent bit larger hopefully atleast and royal queen seeds are pretty good thats what my fem was.. a freebie special queen seed as my bought fems didnt germinate. Thats why I kept cloning it for 4 grows or so no point in buying seeds if I dont have to... honestly I have bad luck with breeders too since it seems they never germ or take off to a SLOWWW start. Also keep in mind you may end up significantly upping nutrients soon. My first grow I would never went above half str but from there on out it seems I hit 2x the recommended dosage during mid flower when they really bulk up. Thats why I was sayin the nutrients can end up running low all of the sudden once you get things dialed in and they require much more. You could increase the dosage right now if you wanted so long as you use as little N as possible. Im not saying dont use a lot im just sayin buds wont really bulk nearly as much as they do mid flower so id rather give them as much as possible then and then lower it come harvest and maybe the when you have a few days left flush with 3x water to soil and let sit in the dark. Thats if you like sitting plants in dark before harvest.. me personally I just chop after the 12 hours darkness I cut the trunk from the roots right before lights on... some people swear by 24-48 hours of darkness though.