New Grower New grow, some feedback is greatly appreciated

If they were mine I'd do a couple things ...

1. If you have the sprayer for foliar feed I would spray their leaves top and bottom each day for a couple days w/ Epsom salts.

2. I would feed them w/ full strength for Veg cycle including Bloom ... you can drop back to half strength after they get a good feeding. I'd give them about 2L each ...

3. I would include Epsom salts in the feed until the CalMag arrives ... then switch to CalMag ...
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I will absolutely follow what you would do Chester,

I had already fed them 1/2 strength early this morning about 3/4 litre each (included Epsom salts). I watered a circle about 2 inches around the outside of each plant. I mixed a full strength batch including bloom and topped them up with another litre each. They shouldn't be oversaturated because it produced very little run off.
I foliar fed with Epsom once last night and will do again today.

I also figured if they have full strength nutes they might as well get a light boost too, so I turned on my 600w HPS along with my 400w MH. I could turn up the HPS to 1000w but figured the 60/40 mix of spectrum should be good. Tell me if you would do it different.
Will follow up with some new pics and progress

Cheers
 
Hi Oldschool- Ahh, 3 part system--good! ...have the little auto's been outside, full time, including night? Full power sun is prone to paling them out some, until they get a few well developed sets of leaves on them, and are solidly established,... I put mine under window screening material for a couple weeks, which cuts intensity down about 15%,... night temps, if outside, might be too cool, messing with nutrient transport and slowing down the soil herd,... Are you planning to move them back indoors full time now?
...Okay, that's the info on fert's we need! Odd, micro is the stronger N source, but whatever- LOL! I agree with Chester, you need to up to full strength, to boost the N in there,...and follow the full blending in the chart; P is needed for several things, not just blooming, and the grow/micro combo alone isn't giving quite enough, IMO... What dilution for the epsoms are you using? As a normal supplement, 1 tsp/gal is fine,...to treat a defc., 1tsp/qt, a couple times, is what's recommended... you don't have a Mg issue though, so no sense in going too heavy and regular with a salt like epsoms...Chester made a good call, treat a couple times with them, and then quit for a few days to let things get in there and working,... by then, your dedicated Ca-Mg supp. should be here,... ...Foliar is a great method to learn! It's the fastest way into the plant, and bypasses the roots/medium if there's trouble down there; Do you have a wetting agent/water spreader? This is essential to proper foliar spraying, for whatever to spray,... it takes the surface tension out of the soln., allowing the spray to coat and stick more evenly, instead of just beading up and rolling off,... more surface area covered=more absorbed! This also why you spray tops and bottoms of leaves... Stuff only gets into the plant when in liquid suspension, via the opened stomata... I usually let leaves dry part way, then spray with pure wate lightly to redissolve stuff again, and allow a second helping, of sorts!... When you do it, don't place them in direct light-- it risks potential lensing burn (droplets focusing light too intensely like a lens), and dries too fast... Day/early is best, when stomas are open,.... avoid foliar at night/lights out; that risks possible invitation for mold, etc. to get foothold, and stomata tend to close up then,... In a pinch, you can use a few drops of a mild soap (like hand) as a water spreader...avoid using powerful detergents like dish soap-- too gnarly!
.... you can feed the Micro at half str. as a foliar, maybe add a few drops/L of bloom to get a little P in there too,... I don't know the why behind this, but I've read that K is not good to feed by foliar, and the Grow is the strong source of that, so don't use that in the foliar just to be safe,... :smoking:
 
Hi Waira,
These plants live indoors full time with intention to move them outside when the time is right. The pics I posted of them on my deck were the first and only outdoor exposure they have had so far as an intro to the real sun. I put them out for the last 4 hours of light before sunset that day so it wouldn't be too intense. Weather has been bad until today so have not introduced them to outdoors again. I foliar sprayed with lights on but moved them to the side until the leaves were dry so they wouldn't burn. I also added a few drops of SM-90 as a wetting agent mixed with the Epsom salts for my spray. (I added zero nutes to the foliar spray) but followed the feeding recommendation after reading Chesters reply.

I didn't spray under the leaves but will when I spray today. I also didn't rinse with water spray afterwards so will do that too. I love learning new stuff!

You didn't comment on me adding the additional 600w of HPS to the 400w MH?

Should I cut that back?
 
As long as the leaves aren't wet I'd increase the wattage ... I like my plants to be little bushes when I put them out for the season ... remember you're training the roots to fill the pot by seeking water near the edge and bottom of the pot ...
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Updated pictures since a couple foliar feedings with Epsom and a couple drops of N. Also a healthy root feed of nutrients, Giving them their second real sun exposure out on the deck for a few hours today. Northwest part of the house so only partial sun for today just to acclimatize before they move outdoors to complete their life cycle.

I also included a picture of the outdoor girls that have been through hell the last 3 weeks of crappy rainy stormy weather. This is their first nutrients in 3 weeks because they have been water logged that long. I put the 3 outdoor girls outside at 20 days and it is now day 37.

Only one NL looks ok
 

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How tall is that grass around your outdoor ladies? If it completely surrounds them id flatten it down a few feet out from them to increase the amount of light they get outside, lookin good oldschool
 
They get lots of light. Grass is mostly along that side and tramped down but most of the ground is covered with old plywood under the tires. I have a little hope for the larger Northern Lights to still produce something but the two runts don't have much chance but time will tell. If they go another 5 weeks we will see. No pistols yet. I call them my "practice kids"
Wont start until the end of June next year. Need to get past the rainy season and into weather where over night lows are at least 15C.

The others will also live in the same place once I move them out permanently. The weather here is getting hot now.24 to 30 this week. Not quite ready to put the others out yet.
 
Awesome to see more Nl's I'm growing 2 of them outdoors and both stayed relatively small until there stretch.they love that nitrogen I even made all the awesome first time mistakes transplanting feeding to early with nutrients bad ph and bug problems over half the grow.there now at 85 days tomorrow and will go I hope another 15 days.there resilient and definitely a strong medicine,hope this brightens your hope for them.happy growing oldschool
 
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