Indoor Need advice on old MH/HPS/LPS.

I have better than that!!! I have 12 in one 6 foot pvc fence post from HD. Instead of lying it flat it needs to be rotated 45 degrees, using a support. Then you put a pot on alternating sides every six inches. The plants in net pots, grow out at 45 degree angles, at first, but then bend toward light.

I heard AF's go 30 days growth, and sixty days flower, no matter how much light. Is that fairly correct??

i gotta see a pic of this ,......post that please so im pretty handy and can get the picture im cheap so this is ahhhmazing ...Kindredspirit a great grower on here harvested a durrrrty dragon in 72 i seen one really short once but that was 2 months ago like 59 i think but i could be wrong .....ur pot size and light schedule does affect it alot do 20/4 and get smaller pots and go for like 2 zips alot do 1 gal autos and get good yeilds ....Ur grow skills all the patience and good choices of nutes makes the difference

what id do if ya want to find out better info make a thread before u plant .....ask around first then journal when u start .....kinda what i been doing reading tons of threads every where from the infirmary to soils fert thread man there is too much info and i still read all day everyday .....

I gotta see this aero design now its got me scratching my head
 
Have always heard that the more light the better. Heard recently, clones and small plants do not need as much, at first. Do AF's require less light?? Is there a chart of average light to productivity, trade off? Have heard a lot use 24 hour a day. What is considered best. Would lower light with for 24 hours be better than, more for less??

Pm this to JM he has some of the best chart info u can imagine ........im doing 18/6 ATM but im really thinking of going 20/4 since i have the low class lighting !!!
 
https://www.autoflower.org/f5/f5/f5...-7890-121.html

check out that beauty ....i dunno his exact recipe but thats a big girl for an indoor auto

Dutch passion has amazig berry strains as welll
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Seedsman i think is Stitch as well
Buddha Seeds
LBH ....man alot are good just gotta have fun reading em all .....what flavors are u looking for fruity, skunky, medicinal purposes u need them for such as pain headaches .....it would get a lil easier if u can come up with these ideas and people who have grown alot of different strains can give ya better info ....do u like day time up high ....nighttime comatose .........I need both Insomnia really bad and developing rheumatoid arthritis ...so different strains ahve different properties .....Ya feel me on these ideas

If u a coffe fan I believe Cream Cramel is said to be like drinking vanilla latte in a joint !!!!!...thats next on my list .......

Depression, anxiety, and getting old. More for comatose, to sleep, since insomniac.

Best to you and yours!!!!!
 
i wont use MG anymore ever too many harmful chemicals they is some pretty pricy nutes but alot of great true organic threads too ....if i did aeroponics i think id run AN PH perfect nutes there ...heard and seen the results but they guys who i know use them do dirt ....JM can tell u better info on HYdro Nutes i duuno shit about it .......and id gladly accept advice anytime bro .....IM struggling to go 100% organic in a few more grows ,,,,,,,compost teas and great homemade compost

but i do have HYdro in mind ......ill do 1 plant there and see how it worsk but i know u get way better yeailds if u do it correctly ....i dont have the time to watch hydro ATM as i see u need to be on top most of the time .....

Exactly! I check PH 3 times a day, and PPM of nutrients. Outdoors you need to keep solution under 75 degree's, or bacteria problems.
 
i gotta see a pic of this ,......post that please so im pretty handy and can get the picture im cheap so this is ahhhmazing ...Kindredspirit a great grower on here harvested a durrrrty dragon in 72 i seen one really short once but that was 2 months ago like 59 i think but i could be wrong .....ur pot size and light schedule does affect it alot do 20/4 and get smaller pots and go for like 2 zips alot do 1 gal autos and get good yeilds ....Ur grow skills all the patience and good choices of nutes makes the difference

what id do if ya want to find out better info make a thread before u plant .....ask around first then journal when u start .....kinda what i been doing reading tons of threads every where from the infirmary to soils fert thread man there is too much info and i still read all day everyday .....

I gotta see this aero design now its got me scratching my head

My main PC is massively hacked, and I do not own cell phone. Have an old Sony Camera, but do not know if this laptop will recognize the card. If I can find cable for usb, will post. Will look at my youtube history.
 
Think the LPS was about 180 watt. ... Does the color shift with time?

No (I think) the color (probably does not shift with time).

That is actually pretty interesting!!! LPS emits 600nm (red) light better than anything else ever made!!!

Dude, I totally changed my mind: don't sell it: use the LPS to test to see if it enhances flowering in MJ plants.

First of all: you really have a 180 watt LPS??? No bullshit??? That is a monster. (I gotta wonder who you knew that back in the 1990's was running MH and LPS!!! Surf the 2012 all you want - you ain't never going to find anybody who has what you have)/

In all of the pot internet surfing I have ever done, I have never before heard of anybody who had in his possession an LPS rig . Not only do you seem to have one, you (claim to) have one of the biggest most fat ass 180 watt bulbs ever made (that's ALOT of POWER dude).

You might be one of those guys who stumbled upon something really fucking cool.

"Blue" light is high energy light and makes MJ plants grow leaves and "fuel" (carbohydrates) for THC (and other plant tissue) manufacture; red light (like your LPS) stimulates MJ to make a hormone that makes MJ flower (and other shit like stems and roots)

According to Wikipedia (and they include a wavelength graph of lps illumination) LPS EMITS 200 LUMENS PER WATT!!!! If that's tru, then that is absofuckinglutely incredible (3x the best LED; 2x the best t5; 30% better than the best HPS). BUT the problem with LPS is that ...

.. ALL (all 200 lumens per watt) of LPSs light is the 600nm (red) wave length. NOTE: the optimum wavelength for growing MJ is four-twenty nanometers -420 nm - by the grace of the God who obviously hath smiled stonily upon His 420 Children when He built the Universe.

if I were you, I would go get some heavy bright ass blue lights - at least 600 watt MH or 300 watts arctinic t5's - and grow the shit out of some feminized MJ seeds, then after six weeks, cut it down to 12/12, and LEAVE THE MH lights burning (no need for HPS when you got 200 lumens per watt red LPS) but hit the plants with that intense 180 watt, 36000 lumens LPS.

If you want to grow autos (and I would totally do this), I would turn on the LPS - as a supplemental light source - after one month. You should probably tend to the garden by, every few days, turning each plant (kind of like roasting a chicken by turning the bird to cook it evenly) to acheive a consistent exposure to the LPS (red) light.

It seems to me that the intense blue would load the MJ plants up with carbohydrate fuel while all that red light would load them up with flowering hormones ... no?? You would have the best of both worlds.

If you google "LPS marijuana" you will get hits on a bunch of pot internet posts and websites where all these growers WHO HAVEHYPOTHETICAL OPINiONS ABOUT BLAH BLAH BLAH BULLSHIT and have never tried to actually grow weed with an LPS.

But what I know for sure is this: back in the 1980's, before HPS lights were easily available (apparently everybody was using MH), somebody in Northern California was growing TWO HIT KILLER WEED with GLORIOUS FROSTY NUGS like I have not seen since (altho I've seen - and grown - pretty close). Maybe LPS is how they were doing it???
 
No (I think) the color (probably does not shift with time).

That is actually pretty interesting!!! LPS emits 600nm (red) light better than anything else ever made!!!

Dude, I totally changed my mind: don't sell it: use the LPS to test to see if it enhances flowering in MJ plants.

First of all: you really have a 180 watt LPS??? No bullshit??? That is a monster. (I gotta wonder who you knew that back in the 1990's was running MH and LPS!!! Surf the 2012 all you want - you ain't never going to find anybody who has what you have)/

In all of the pot internet surfing I have ever done, I have never before heard of anybody who had in his possession an LPS rig . Not only do you seem to have one, you (claim to) have one of the biggest most fat ass 180 watt bulbs ever made (that's ALOT of POWER dude).

You might be one of those guys who stumbled upon something really fucking cool.

"Blue" light is high energy light and makes MJ plants grow leaves and "fuel" (carbohydrates) for THC (and other plant tissue) manufacture; red light (like your LPS) stimulates MJ to make a hormone that makes MJ flower (and other shit like stems and roots)

According to Wikipedia (and they include a wavelength graph of lps illumination) LPS EMITS 200 LUMENS PER WATT!!!! If that's tru, then that is absofuckinglutely incredible (3x the best LED; 2x the best t5; 30% better than the best HPS). BUT the problem with LPS is that ...

.. ALL (all 200 lumens per watt) of LPSs light is the 600nm (red) wave length. NOTE: the optimum wavelength for growing MJ is four-twenty nanometers -420 nm - by the grace of the God who obviously hath smiled stonily upon His 420 Children when He built the Universe.

if I were you, I would go get some heavy bright ass blue lights - at least 600 watt MH or 300 watts arctinic t5's - and grow the shit out of some feminized MJ seeds, then after six weeks, cut it down to 12/12, and LEAVE THE MH lights burning (no need for HPS when you got 200 lumens per watt red LPS) but hit the plants with that intense 180 watt, 36000 lumens LPS.

If you want to grow autos (and I would totally do this), I would turn on the LPS - as a supplemental light source - after one month. You should probably tend to the garden by, every few days, turning each plant (kind of like roasting a chicken by turning the bird to cook it evenly) to acheive a consistent exposure to the LPS (red) light.

It seems to me that the intense blue would load the MJ plants up with carbohydrate fuel while all that red light would load them up with flowering hormones ... no?? You would have the best of both worlds.

If you google "LPS marijuana" you will get hits on a bunch of pot internet posts and websites where all these growers WHO HAVEHYPOTHETICAL OPINiONS ABOUT BLAH BLAH BLAH BULLSHIT and have never tried to actually grow weed with an LPS.

But what I know for sure is this: back in the 1980's, before HPS lights were easily available (apparently everybody was using MH), somebody in Northern California was growing TWO HIT KILLER WEED with GLORIOUS FROSTY NUGS like I have not seen since (altho I've seen - and grown - pretty close). Maybe LPS is how they were doing it???

Awesome post!!! Are they not as popular anymore? I was in on cutting edge PC market since 1986, and had spare money. Bought the best of everything.
 
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