@Dabber where ur at do u have to deal with people from suburbs coming out to the country and stealing tree stands. I have these idiots that come deer season are always cruising the gravel roads and dropping a buddy off to sneak in some woods and hunt, yesterday while picking crops I noticed two new paths back to an old stand I have and the path leads right back to a gravel road that has no houses for miles on it. Think it's time for a bear trap or two.