Mephisto Genetics Mephisto Black Friday CANADA promo.

[mephisto]

Promo terms for anyone that couldn't scope it out too easily:

1. Promotion to run from: Friday 23rd November 12pm Eastern Time/9am Pacific time and will close Monday 26th November 11.59pm Eastern Time/8.59pm Pacific Time.

2. No discount/promo codes will be applicable during the promotion. Strains will already be pre-discounted in the store.

3. Freebies will be given at our usual price breaks and will be lucky dip. Freebie numbers and further information can be read here: www.mephistogenetics.ca/freebies

4. Stocks are Limited, so throughout the promotion items will be placed out of stock as they sell out. Towards the end of the promotion there may not be much available. So if you really want the beans we'd recommend getting in early.

5. If you place multiple orders we cannot combine shipping.

6. Orders are processed on a first come, first served, first paid first shipped basis.

7. The shop will be closed one day before the promotion starts. And will close after the promotion ends to deal solely with these orders. The shop will re-open Monday 3rd December to resume normal orders.

8. Please TAKE CARE when placing your order, if you make any mistake WHATSOEVER you will be asked to place a fresh order. Your initial order will be voided and you will then go to the back of the order queue whilst we work through correct orders.

9. Only the listed strains will be offered for sale during this promotion.

10. The Payment methods available in the CANADA promotion are limited to e-transfer and Bitcoin only.

11. We will allow 24 hours from when you place your order to make payment. If 24 hours elapses without notifying us that you have made payment, your order will be cancelled.

12. This promotion is for CANADA ONLY. No one from a location outside of Canada can purchase seeds in this promotion, and likewise being in Canada you can only order from the mephistogenetics.ca store.

13. Please add canadasales@mephistogenetics.com to your safe senders list so any correspondence does not end up in your junk mail folder.

14. There are postal delays within Canada currently, please bare this mind when ordering as this is out of our control.

15. Chill, and have a fantastic promotion

 

[Caper123]

Can’t wait thanks for the sale!

 

[mephisto]

And again just Incase the sale items and discounts weren’t clear -

Canada strains and discounts:

Strains and discounts:

Originals:

Alien Vs. Triangle - 20%

Chemdogging - 20%

Sodk - 20%

Sour crack - 20%

.....

Limited editions:

Forgotten cookies - 20%

White chem - 20%

Grapey Walter - 20%

Grape Walker kush - 20%

....

Artisanals:

3 Bears OG - 20%

Northern cheese haze - 20%

Samsquanch og - 20%

Fugue state - 20%

Sour livers - 20%

Sour stomper - 20%

Creme de la chem - 20%

Forum Stomper - 20%

Strawberry nuggets - 20%

....

Illuminautos:

Ghost toof - 20%

Sweet n sour - 20%

Deez nuggs - 20%

Jammy dodgers - 20%

Cheers

 

[ARumRunner]

I can tell its not worth the effort bro

You should not give up on things so easy, you might be surprised. Be well, be blessed.

 

[Son of Hobbes]

Please explain your position "bro"

This is a cannabis forum and the majority of breeders here are based out of EU. Even if you did have a valid complaint, there's not much you're going to be able to do in terms of making anything change. I'm not sure why you would create such a stink about them trying to create a promotion to help out growers?

 

[Milo77]

So it appears the entire inventory of seeds in Canada was sold out in the first hour. What a disappointment to come to the web site and see "out of stock" on every single item for this sale early this AM. This and the fact that you are trying to enforce what is a policy that does not allow Canadians to order from your other web-site (which contravenes Canada's Anti-Competition legislation) really leaves a foul taste in this growers mouth. While a company can restrict where it ships a product to, it can not restrict the actual sale.

12. This promotion is for CANADA ONLY. No one from a location outside of Canada can purchase seeds in this promotion, and likewise being in Canada you can only order from the mephistogenetics.ca store.

I suggest you read:

http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/eic/site/cb-bc.nsf/eng/04267.html

Stephen Krebs, Association of Corporate Counsel

The Canadian Competition Act (“the Act”) is intended to protect consumers by prohibiting anticompetitive business practices and promoting competition in the Canadian marketplace. Like U.S. antitrust laws, the Act bans harmful restraints on trade. Anti-competitive activities prohibited by the Act include price-fixing, bid-rigging, exclusive dealing, tied selling, market restriction, refusal to deal and abuse of dominance, which is comparable to the American concept of monopolization. The Act also permits the government to review mergers to assess their anti-competitive effects, and protects consumers by prohibiting deceptive marketing and advertising. Here are ten important things to know about the Canadian Competition Act.

1. The Canadian Competition Act, administered by the Competition Bureau, is the sole source of competition law in Canada.
Competition law in Canada is exclusively federal; there are no provincial or territorial competition laws. The Act comprises the entirety of competition law in Canada and there is only one agency, the Competition Bureau, responsible for administering and enforcing it.

The Commissioner of Competition, appointed by the Federal Government, is the head of the Competition Bureau. The Bureau investigates anti-competitive activity and may challenge a merger or other civil violation by filing an application with the Competition Tribunal. The Competition Tribunal is a separate, specialized court with jurisdiction to examine “reviewable practices,” discussed below, and determine whether a civil violation of the Act has occurred. It consists of a rotating panel of up to six members of the federal judiciary, along with up to eight other experts in business, economics and law. If, however, the Competition Bureau’s investigation produces sufficient evidence to support prosecution under the criminal provisions of the Act, the Bureau makes recommendations to the Public Prosecution Service of Canada (”PPS”), which then makes its own determination about how to proceed. The PPS is an independent agency responsible for federal criminal prosecutions. The director of PPS is the Deputy Attorney General of Canada.

2. The Act has both civil and criminal provisions.
Until 1976 the Act was exclusively criminal in nature. The Act now has both criminal and civil provisions. Conspiracies to restrain trade, the implementation in Canada of offshore conspiracies to restrain trade, bid rigging, multi-level marketing plans, and deceptive advertising and marketing practices done knowingly or recklessly are considered violations of the criminal law. Recent amendments to the law, enacted in 2009, allow for more effective criminal enforcement against the most serious anti-competitive activities, as well as increased criminal penalties. Criminal violations now carry a fine of up to $25 million and 14 years in prison.

Other anti-competitive activities are deemed “reviewable practices” and considered civil matters. Reviewable practices include mergers, abuse of dominance, agreements that substantially lessen competition, price maintenance, vertical non-price restrictions and deceptive advertising and marketing practices done without a reckless or knowing state of mind. The Bureau investigates reviewable practices and may challenge them directly before the Competition Tribunal. The reviewable practices provisions cover activities that are generally legal and only take on an illegal nature when the Competition Tribunal reviews all the circumstances to determine whether the activity has a harmful, anti-competitive effect. Because reviewable practices only take on an illegal character once the Competition Tribunal has reviewed all the facts and made its determination, there is usually no punishment for past conduct. Rather, if the Competition Tribunal finds a violation of the Act, in general, the violating parties are prohibited from continuing that conduct in the future.

3. Anti-competitive agreements between competitors violate the Act.
A cartel is a group of competitors that agree to take actions to reduce competition with other members of the group. These agreements limit incentives for innovation and often result in higher prices for consumers. The Act proscribes cartel activity by prohibiting conspiracies to reduce competition.

The most serious forms of anti-competitive agreements are “per se illegal” and violate criminal provisions of the Act, regardless of whether they have an anti-competitive impact. Section 45 of the Act identifies three of these types of conspiracies: agreements between competitors to fix prices, allocate markets or customers, or control the supply of a product. Bid rigging – agreeing to withhold or withdraw a bid, or agreeing to the contents of a bid – is also per se illegal, but covered by a separate provision.

Other agreements between competitors that do not fall into one of the categories defined in Section 45, such as strategic alliances or joint ventures, are reviewable practices. While these agreements are not per se illegal, the Competition Tribunal may determine that a civil violation exists if it finds that the agreement has or is likely to prevent or lessen competition substantially in a market.

4. Certain distribution practices violate the Act.
The Act also prohibits certain harmful distribution practices that occur when a supplier places conditions or restrictions on the supply of a product, or refuses to supply a product altogether. These types of activities are known as tied selling, market restriction, refusal to deal and exclusive dealing. Because they may not always be anti-competitive, they are considered reviewable practices. Whether the conduct violates the Act depends on the Competition Tribunal’s evaluation of the specific facts and circumstances surrounding the practice.

Tied selling is a coercive practice that occurs when a seller provides a product or service on the condition that the purchaser also buy a second product or service along with it. Exclusive dealing is an arrangement where a seller agrees to sell all or substantially all of its products to a specific purchaser, or where a purchaser agrees to purchase all or a substantial portion of its requirement of a product or service from a specific seller. Market restriction occurs when supplier conditions its sale to a business on the requirement that the business only operate in a specific market. Finally, although a business is not obligated to supply another business with products, in some situations, a refusal to deal may be an anti-competitive violation of the Act, including a situation in which the would-be customer will be substantially affected by the refusal to supply, the product is in ample supply and the would-be customer is willing to meet the supplier’s terms.

5. A business may avoid criminal prosecution by participating in the Competition Bureau’s Immunity Program.
If a company provides the Competition Bureau with information about a criminal agreement, the company may qualify for immunity from prosecution under the Bureau’s Immunity Program. To qualify for immunity, the company must be the first to provide information about the activity to the Bureau. Additionally, it must cease its illegal conduct and cooperate with the Bureau, and the information provided must lead to a criminal prosecution.

A company may use counsel to secure its position as the first to report the information by contacting the Bureau’s Senior Deputy Commissioner for Criminal Matters, and initially, may remain unidentified. The company then “perfects” its spot as the first to report by providing additional information, including its identity, to the Bureau within 30 days. (Time extensions are sometimes permitted.) In addition to the identity of the parties involved, the Bureau requires detailed information about the illegal activities, including details of the products and markets affected, the duration of conduct, the effect on competition, and a description of witnesses and records that will aid the Bureau in its investigation.

6. Mergers, regardless of their size, are subject to review by the Competition Bureau.
The Competition Act permits the Bureau to review mergers to assess whether they are a threat to competition and, when that threat exists, to challenge them before the Competition Tribunal. The Tribunal may block mergers or order divestitures or other remedies if it determines the transaction will substantially lessen competition. Examples of mergers that may harm competition include a company’s acquisition of an increasingly dynamic competitor or potential market entrant, an acquisition that prevents or limits the introduction of new products, or the acquisition of an existing business by a company which, absent the merger, likely would have entered the same market.

Participants in mergers that exceed a certain size threshold must notify the Bureau ahead of time. However, the Bureau may review and challenge a merger of any size that gives rise to significant competitive harm, regardless of whether pre-merger notification is required. Generally, pre-merger notification is required when the assets or revenues of the firm to be acquired exceed $70 million and when the aggregate assets or revenues of both parties exceed $400 million. Failure to provide pre-merger notification when it is required is a criminal offense. The 2009 amendments to the Act restructured the pre-merger notification process so that it is similar to the review process used in the U.S. After the initial notification, there is a 30 day review period. The Bureau then has the discretion to order a second review to further evaluate the proposed transaction, which is similar to the “second request” used in the U.S. by the Federal Trade Commission and the Department of Justice.

7. A dominant position in the marketplace is not illegal by itself, but activities that abuse that dominance may be.
The Act does not penalize a company simply for acquiring a dominant position in a market as a result of superior performance. But a dominant company may be subject to sections 78 and 79 of the Act if it exploits its dominance by engaging in anti-competitive conduct that eliminates or punishes competitors, or prevents new competitors from entering the market. Unlike the Sherman Act, which makes monopolization a criminal matter in the U.S., abuse of dominance is considered a reviewable practice under the Canadian Competition Act. Additionally, unlike the U.S. approach, attempted monopolization is not a violation of the Act.

In some situations, the Commissioner of Competition may engage in discussions with the dominant party with the goal of reaching a voluntary agreement to remedy the situation. If a voluntary agreement can’t be reached, other remedies are available, including an order to stop the harmful conduct or an administrative monetary penalty of up to $10,000,000 for the first violation and $15,000,000,000 for subsequent violations. These remedies are available if the Competition Tribunal finds three factors to be true:

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  • 1) The party has complete or substantial control of a market, which is generally defined as the power to set prices higher than they would be if competition existed.
  • 2) The party has engaged in anti-competitive conduct, such as buying a competitor’s customers or supplies, using significantly discounted products to stifle competitors or cutting off supplies to competitors.
  • 3) The conduct has lessened competition in that marketplace, or is likely to lessen or prevent competition.

8. The Act establishes ground rules for truthful advertising.
The Competition Act contains both criminal and civil provisions prohibiting misleading and deceptive advertising and marketing. A materially false or misleading statement or representation that is made knowingly or recklessly is a criminal violation. Other criminal violations include deceptive telemarketing, deceptive notices of winning a prize, double ticketing and pyramid selling schemes. Materially false or misleading statements that are not made with a knowing or reckless state of mind are civil violations. Other practices that fall within the civil regime include performance representations not based on proper testing, misleading warranties or guarantees, bait and switch selling, misleading or unauthorized use of testimonials and the sale of a product above its advertised price.

9. Private litigants may sue to enforce the Act.
Until 1976, the Act was exclusively criminal and was enforced solely by the Commissioner of Competition and Attorney General of Canada. However, over the years, changes to the Act permitted private antitrust actions, and private enforcement has become increasingly common. The Act permits plaintiffs to pursue two types of claims: a “private action” before the courts for damages and other relief for conduct that violates the Act’s criminal provisions, and an application for “private access” before the Competition Tribunal for conduct that qualifies as a reviewable practice.

Private actions against parties alleged to have violated criminal provisions of the Act may be brought in either the federal or provincial courts. These claims are often brought as class action lawsuits. Notably, the Act only allows an award for actual damage or loss and the cost of the investigation and legal proceedings, which contrasts with the treble damage awards available to plaintiffs in the U.S.

Private access to the Competition Tribunal is a recent development in Canadian law instituted by 2002 amendments to the Act. It is still somewhat rare. Private parties may apply to the Tribunal for leave to make an application for the evaluation of certain reviewable practices, including exclusive dealing, tied selling and refusal to deal. At this time, however, private litigants may not bring an action against a party for abuse of dominance.

10. An effective compliance program reduces the risk of liability under the Act.
A properly developed compliance program that includes competition law training can provide a business with a variety of benefits. Most importantly, it reduces the risks of violations of the Act and increases a corporation’s preparedness in the event of an enforcement action by the Competition Bureau. By identifying the limits of permissible conduct, and training its employees on how to keep the business within those bounds, a company can help avoid liability under either the civil or criminal provisions of the Act.

Furthermore, an effective compliance program will allow a company to identify possible competition issues early on, put its management in the position of recognizing when it’s necessary to seek the advice of counsel and, by avoiding problems or identifying them early, reduce the costs associated with a Bureau investigation and any related litigation. In the event that a violation is established, it may also help mitigate penalties as it evidences the intent to avoid unlawful acts. Finally, an effective compliance program that includes competition law training also makes good business sense, as it will help a company avoid the negative publicity that accompanies charges of wrongdoing.

You should read the first page in this thread. It was explained very well already.

 

[ARumRunner]

This is a cannabis forum and the majority of breeders here are based out of EU. Even if you did have a valid complaint, there's not much you're going to be able to do in terms of making anything change. I'm not sure why you would create such a stink about them trying to create a promotion to help out growers?

This grower is thankful, that this supplier is offering some good deals on their products, as is most other suppliers. It is frustrating to see a company take the effort to service a local market, ie: Canada but then fumble the ball badly. While growing pains are both expected and widespread across many industries, it's how companies deal with these challenges that set them apart. Mephisto not only has great products, more importantly the have personal customer service that is second to none. As noted above, If a entity in Canada wish to purchase products in another country, have that product shipped within that country of purchase, accepted trade practices, and legislation allows that.

 

[ARumRunner]

You should read the first page in this thread. It was explained very well already.

I did read the challenges they were facing, shipping delays due to postal issues, limited inventory in-country and the fact that orders are built vrs finished goods inventory. It appears the Canadian inventory was extremely limited. Hence why attempting to stop Canadians from ordering from other Meph websites does not sit well with this grower.

 

[Milo77]

I did read the challenges they were facing, shipping delays due to postal issues, limited inventory in-country and the fact that orders are built vrs finished goods inventory. It appears the Canadian inventory was extremely limited. Hence why attempting to stop Canadians from ordering from other Meph websites does not sit well with this grower.

I'm sure you can order from the other sites as much as you like, they just won't get shipped to you. Seems to me like that's not @mephisto choice in the matter doesn't it? Sounds more like a shipping issue eh? It also sounded like all of the black friday sales inventory stock is STUCK because of the postal issue. Doesn't sound like lack of effort on their part. I see a pattern developing here....

 

[iriejack]

You didnt miss anything .
BF sale in Canada starts at noon eastern time zone