New Grower Megabuds, Rosin and Tinctures OH my!

[Frenjamin Banklin]

@baked in the bluegrass

I use what I have
I start with an old steel house screen to break it up and get out the big pieces.
I then use an old grease screen, you can get them at discount stores for $5. They go over the tops of pans when you get to stop splatter. Stainless steel and seem good for a 2nd screen.

At that point there is stll about 30% plant matter still in the sift and it is a bit green. It is perfect for making prepress molds or doing a winterized quick wash. But a long soak would pull out the chlorophyll. I can then use a 110lpi silk screen frame that you can get at most craft stores for $30 is you want to make a further clean clear trichrome sift. For what I’m doing the time lost for the final sift is not needed. But if you want to spend the extra $30 and you are making moon rocks with the sift then it would make sense.

I’ve seen a few posts with members comparing the quality and taste of different sized material at each stage of separation with systems such as bubble bags. From what I’ve seen people usually find a sift that suits there final needs and taste. And then use like two of the five bags. I’d say the same here. If you sift through the grease screen and still want further find a simple way to separate. Then decide before spending more money. Vibration can usually effectively sift/ distribute into layers.

I use the dry sift because I have lots sf friends that really enjoy the reduced potency of the green that doesn’t go through the grease screen. I make lots of cones filled with that and everyone loves it, lots of old time casual smokers. I use gentle pressure with all the screens and gently use my hands to break up and press the flowers through.

FB

 

[baked in the bluegrass]

@baked in the bluegrass

I use what I have
I start with an old steel house screen to break it up and get out the big pieces.
I then use an old grease screen, you can get them at discount stores for $5. They go over the tops of pans when you get to stop splatter. Stainless steel and seem good for a 2nd screen.

At that point there is stll about 30% plant matter still in the sift and it is a bit green. It is perfect for making prepress molds or doing a winterized quick wash. But a long soak would pull out the chlorophyll. I can then use a 110lpi silk screen frame that you can get at most craft stores for $30 is you want to make a further clean clear trichrome sift. For what I’m doing the time lost for the final sift is not needed. But if you want to spend the extra $30 and you are making moon rocks with the sift then it would make sense.

I’ve seen a few posts with members comparing the quality and taste of different sized material at each stage of separation with systems such as bubble bags. From what I’ve seen people usually find a sift that suits there final needs and taste. And then use like two of the five bags. I’d say the same here. If you sift through the grease screen and still want further find a simple way to separate. Then decide before spending more money. Vibration can usually effectively sift/ distribute into layers.

I use the dry sift because I have lots sf friends that really enjoy the reduced potency of the green that doesn’t go through the grease screen. I make lots of cones filled with that and everyone loves it, lots of old time casual smokers. I use gentle pressure with all the screens and gently use my hands to break up and press the flowers through.

FB

I remember you mentioning the reduced potency cones and such before. I think sift is awesome and now im in to keeping the leftover flower for smokes.
I have a bubble bag set but i think bubblehash is too much work and i hate that it basically ruins the flower material.
Good stuffs here man, thank ya!

 

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You can sift with bubble bags. I use a sift tray the kief collector. Bubble bags you just freeze the trim etc... then put it in the 250 micron bag with a couple coins and shake it over a smooth surface.

 

[Frenjamin Banklin]

So we are four weeks old today. Despite the sativa lineage I have been able to keep these pretty low so far. They are all in final DWC 8 gallon buckets. They are all getting about 65w each at near 18” for the cob and maybe 14” for the QB.

The first four weeks these were all under a single rail at 100w at 20” it was at a height meant to cover a 2x4 area so it was about 12w per square foot. Now the 65w is meant to veg a 2x2 area so we are at about 16.5 watts per square foot. The plants are about 20” around at this point and no more than 10” high.

I added about 2 gallons of fresh water and some cal/mag and Megacrop along with a pinch of Recharge. Pictures aren’t the best, lots of projects today

Megabuds Beast mode autos day 28

And the of course I have Megabuds collossal purps Photo baby that ill clone out in a few weeks.

 

[Frenjamin Banklin]

So I believe today is the end of week 4 and the beginning of week five for my Megabuds Beast Mode autos but the lights are out so pictures of the girls will come later.

figured I’d show a quick Buchner Filter setup. During this early morning filter session I actually dropped my filter and the jar of leftover that was getting ready for a second run. But I still have the first run good stuff.

For those that don’t know. A Buchner filter pulls a vacuum on your liquid to help pull it through filtration to help speed up the process and minimize loss. It is usually used in this situation if QWET is frozen. I am using Everclear grain alcohol that is frozen to do a quick wash of some frozen dry sift. This batch was pretty green so even with the quick wash it picked up some color. The thought process behind the quick wash is that you should dissolve less of the chorophyl and when it’s all frozen you should get less of the lipids and fats.

so here is the whole setup
70mm Buchner filter 250ml
1000ml flask to catch the

this is the business end of the filter. It has a built it stone/glass filter but you also use properly sized filter paper.

Here is the filter paper. It fits nice and snug in the bottom. I take two sheets and press flat with the eraser end of a pencil. Once vacuum is turned on it

Here is the the frozen wash dumped into the top part of the funnel. Within about a minute the vacuum can pull all 250ml through. Trapping most all the fats because they are still frozen and definitely all the organic matter gets removed.
You can run the liquid through again with activated charcoal if you wanted to remove color at this point. I’m not going to do that with this run. I do have a very dark sample of leftovers that has been on a very long soak that I will try to lighten when my new

and here is the final filtered product. If you make tinctures then from this point you can let it evaporate in the open air to reduce. This liquid has not been decarbed so the THC is not active yet. If you were going to use for tincture you would have cooked before the ethanol wash.

Those that are still in this hike, which might not be many. Know that we are now going to take this liquid and do a low temperature distillation under vacuum to remove all of the ethanol and water to leave us with a clear pure THC oil.

At that point it can be used in recipes if they will be cooked. It can decarbed and made into anything you like. Or it can be made into vape juice if that is your intention.

I’ll retake and gather the hikers up later today. I think the little update storm might have scattered the group and broken links, but we need to do a little head count and get this show back in the road. Getting to that point where we can pull off to the side of the trail, light some fires and get down to the nitty gritty.
Back later
FB

 

[Puff Puff Pat]

Very interesting thread FB! I'll be watching this. I've been vaping (nicotine) for about 8 years now, and have wondered about extractions to create THC eliquid. It will be interesting to see the process.

 

[baked in the bluegrass]

Heya fb, you nailed it on the head about the update scattering peeps to the wind lol.
Im kinda having a hard time gettin around myself these days but im still here for the ride!

 

[Frenjamin Banklin]

Back to our @MegaBuds stars of our hike through the woods.
First picture here is a shot of the Colossal Purple photo that will be getting cloned when she’s bigger. Took this shot because you can clearly see how I slow down the main by taking the fans during veg allowing light into the other primary nodes and slowing the main without topping.

And here are the four Megabuds Beast mode autos at day 35. They are all pretty similar in size and structure at this point. Each plant is about 25” around and only 12” high at this point. They showed sex last week and have pre flowers starting. Should be heading into the flower stretch soon.

Here you can see how with the fan leave trimming and some LST I can keep a fairly low and wide canopy before heading into flowering stretch

And here is the stem structure and node spacing in these girls. I expected them to be longer running girls in DWC so I feel like they are right where they need to be.

I’ve only added about two gallons to each reservoir up to this point.When I did I added another 2 tablespoons of MC and some recharge and molasses. Slight bit of tip burn but overall plants are not showing toxicity of any kind and still light green.

I just ordered some bud explosion and sweet candy. I usually run Maxibloom and molasses but will give the full @Greenleaf Nutrients MC treatment to these girls.

thanks for hangin

FB

 

[Frenjamin Banklin]

so some of the fun stuff. Now that I have run my liquid through the Buchner filter to remove lipids and organic I can begin to reduce it. For this run I will be using the liquid without trying to polish it first. One because I broke my Buchner and will have to wait for another but also as a comparison. Would like to see if the activated charcoal strips more than color. So her goes the unpolished run.

Of course the overview. I purchased some invaluable vacuum grease that seals the 24/40 fittings allowing me to get almost 29hg out of the system. But be careful. At that vacuum you don’t need much heat to boil and can spontaneously boil something if not careful. Also if your liquid is already at the temperature required to boil under vacuum then just turning in the pump can cause it to boil.

Plus side is you can get all your ethanol and water out without getting over 110-120 degrees Fahrenheit . Maybe lower. And that should leave us with lots of flavor if making vape from the oul

Not really all that fancy. You can see here the 1000ml flask that I’m starting with and it’s got about 550ml of liquid goodness. I will put the system under vacuum and then slowly allot heat until it start to evaporate.

The condenser had water running through it from the five gallon bucket. Cheap little pump and some blue food coloring make it easy to see. The condenser lowers the temperature of the evaporate and turns it back into a liquid.

Here is the collection vessel for the reclaimed Ethanol. Saves some money. I pour the first 75% back. Could go higher but why risk getting

Not very impressive but my hand is on it while it boils. Doesn’t even feel warm. My index finger is actually cold because the cold from the condenser keeps it chill.

Here is a shot again of the vacuum elbow that allows me to put a vacuum to the system. Yet still allows the distillate to flow into the collection vessel

Reduced the 550ml down to about 50ml in a few hours. Transferred that to a tiny 100ml flask and will reduce down to just the pure oil tomorrow under vacuum.

FB

 

[bad dragon bzzz]

dang i lost track of this thread great stuff FB i do love me dry sift and tinkering with all things cannabis
have ya got this in another thread ? https://www.autoflower.org/forums/extraction-processing-testing/ :smoking:

edit...ahh you having diffs with the new system if its any consolation if try and AFN on my phone...its like trying to read a newspaper thats sitting on my kitchen table,and im stood outside looking through the letterbox
i tell ya what...if you can make just 1 new thread in the extract section,i will copy/paste all your posts over from this thread