Indoor Mars Hydro grow journal: WildBill does Hubbabubbasmelloscope in EarthBoxes under MarsHydro SP3000

[WildBill]

I recharge once a week in soil. Twice a week in coco amoco the bennies get flushed out. And in hydro I wud feed recharge every res change. I'd top feed my dwc buckets with it and let it drip down for an hour then change water and the res. When they're young I'd feed half tsp per gal of water and give each plant some but not too much. Older plants past 3 or 4 weeks I'd say full tsp per gal water. Give the top soil a god soak quick then on to the next plant. I always feed nutes first then recharge right after a feeding to add the bennies in. Then I stop recharge 2 weeks before harvest to flush the molasses out. Recharge is my shit. I dont grow without it.

Very interesting. Did you see a lessening in needed nutes?

 

[NorthernLights_420]

Very interesting. Did you see a lessening in needed nutes?

People warned me of that but I myself have never had a problem. But I dont feed much over 600 ppm ever. I just read the plants. If you get burnt tips back off the nutes for sure. But I never had a problem with it bud. Recharge is good stuff. I learned about recharge after trying many things to battle pythium, the dreaded root rot in hydroponics, I learned it from Dude Grows Podcast. If you google "dude grows recharge" check out the pages about the capn using recharge. Recharge is amazingly beneficial for your roots and plants.

 

[WildBill]

People warned me of that but I myself have never had a problem. But I dont feed much over 600 ppm ever. I just read the plants. If you get burnt tips back off the nutes for sure. But I never had a problem with it bud. Recharge is good stuff. I learned about recharge after trying many things to battle pythium, the dreaded root rot in hydroponics, I learned it from Dude Grows Podcast. If you google "dude grows recharge" check out the pages about the capn using recharge. Recharge is amazingly beneficial for your roots and plants.

I think it helped the HBSS girls! I think the malted barley juice helped the roots also.
Guess I need to buy some more. I just got the free samples.

 

[NorthernLights_420]

Heres my bag of recharge in front of my fast buds plant Zkittlez. Last quite a while and only 30 bucks on amazon for this smaller size bag.

 

[WildBill]

I just thought I was on cruise control for a couple of days.

The girls were good when I checked early this morning. I checked a little before the end of the cycle. Everyone except Stomper had already got into sleep mode. Kong was a little droopy and she needed water. I thought I was gonna wait to do another treatment when I watered the 7gal pots.
They got a half gal each of TAP water with a little yucca powder and a teaspoon of molasses.
Since I was doing that, I just went ahead and rearranged the girls now. Now the HBSS has more room for the LST.

Here they are just after lights out.

I've had to re-evaluate making seeds. The two biggest reasons are the condition of the HBSS and I think it would have been best I I had staggered the planting a little. Having a problem getting everything in a timely fashion is a contributing factor also.

 

[WildBill]

Heres my bag of recharge in front of my fast buds plant Zkittlez. Last quite a while and only 30 bucks on amazon for this smaller size bag. View attachment 1286666

I've gotta a lb coming.

 

[WildBill]

I find it fascinating how these girls are on their own cycle. This morning before lights out, all but Stomper had evidently got their DLI in and were asleep when I checked.
Just now checking right at lights on, all the girls were praying for the lights to come on.
Just amazing!

 

[WildBill]

Yesterday
DAY 35
AVG TEMP: 77*f
AVG RH: 60
AVG VPD : 0.94
Light Cycle: 18/6
Light Height: 24 inches
Water: HBSS got 3 quarts of tap water. Sour Stomper and Purple Kong received misting of heavy misting of cover hay.


The moving around of the girls was needed. HBSS spreed out after the move. I tightened up the main pulls and hung a few "Candy canes" Ala MrOldBoy on others. I'll stop LST when they start flowering well or/and they reach the far end of the pots.

Starting to take a good shape

Color is coming back and condition is improving. I'm starting a fresh batch of compost tea and will do the same treatment again, I should be able to give the 7gal pots the same treatment again by the time it's ready.

Kong and Stomper are very stinky girls! It's gonna be a really stinky tent when HBSS starts flowering. Stomper is about two inches taller than Kong, but Kong has more total biomass. I do think Stomper will be pretty easy to trim up.

That leads me to a question:
I would assume each strain will have its own specific DLI limit before it tries to go to sleep. Does size, mass and amount and size of leaves play a part? Stomper is still praying hard by the end of the light cycle, but you can see that all the others are already shutting down. As of this moment with an hour left, the HBSS girls are starting to show signs of going to sleep. Stomper is praying hard and Kong is slightly less.

I should have taken them further away from the tent lights, but here the 7gal pots
Sour Stomper

Purple Kong

I'm very happy with the progress of the 7gal pot girls!
Stomper has been the easiest to maintain with only 3 or 4 leaf tucks needed.
Kong has needed more leaf tucking but pretty easy to make progress in exposure.
Both would lend themselves to a Sea f Green, but I think Stomper would be far less maintenance and work. Depending on how Stomper smokes and production quality, I could see I could see it being quite a productive run.
At least that would make me get the extra side poles for the tents.

 

[Sour D]

Yesterday
DAY 35
AVG TEMP: 77*f
AVG RH: 60
AVG VPD : 0.94
Light Cycle: 18/6
Light Height: 24 inches
Water: HBSS got 3 quarts of tap water. Sour Stomper and Purple Kong received misting of heavy misting of cover hay.


The moving around of the girls was needed. HBSS spreed out after the move. I tightened up the main pulls and hung a few "Candy canes" Ala MrOldBoy on others. I'll stop LST when they start flowering well or/and they reach the far end of the pots.
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Starting to take a good shape
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Color is coming back and condition is improving. I'm starting a fresh batch of compost tea and will do the same treatment again, I should be able to give the 7gal pots the same treatment again by the time it's ready.

Kong and Stomper are very stinky girls! It's gonna be a really stinky tent when HBSS starts flowering. Stomper is about two inches taller than Kong, but Kong has more total biomass. I do think Stomper will be pretty easy to trim up.

That leads me to a question:
I would assume each strain will have its own specific DLI limit before it tries to go to sleep. Does size, mass and amount and size of leaves play a part? Stomper is still praying hard by the end of the light cycle, but you can see that all the others are already shutting down. As of this moment with an hour left, the HBSS girls are starting to show signs of going to sleep. Stomper is praying hard and Kong is slightly less.

I should have taken them further away from the tent lights, but here the 7gal pots
Sour Stomper
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Purple Kong
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I'm very happy with the progress of the 7gal pot girls!
Stomper has been the easiest to maintain with only 3 or 4 leaf tucks needed.
Kong has needed more leaf tucking but pretty easy to make progress in exposure.
Both would lend themselves to a Sea f Green, but I think Stomper would be far less maintenance and work. Depending on how Stomper smokes and production quality, I could see I could see it being quite a productive run.
At least that would make me get the extra side poles for the tents.

Do you trim the secondary branches?

 

[simoiget]

It stopped and reversed mostly on the left one and stopped and improved a lot on the right, just not to the same as the left.

Not 100% for sure exactly what happened, I caused it with the brainfart running at the most dim setting for several cycles and then me finding out and blasted it to 100%. At the same time pushing the VPD and the girls jumping up getting too close to the light that pushed the roots too hard.

With the compost tea, Recharge and Malted Barley juice directed to repair the roots and stimulate and enhance microbial activity, combined with raising the lights and backing off the VPD, think were all key to halting and improvement of their condition.

Hello AFN world long time lurker first time poster...

I have to finally chime in here thanks @WildBill for this great detailed thread. I am yet another SIP convert also due to reading @MrOldBoy amazing threads RIP.

I have grown several cycles using only Mephisto genetics in both earth box juniors and my own homemade versions.I love growing in SIPS and I think they are perfect for living soil organic growing.

I have definitely seen increased yield and quality over my previous fabric pot grows.However I know it could be better and I have consistently had the same issue as I see you had @WildBill and I noticed @MrOldBoy had in his last grow journals and that is the yellowing of upper growth.

for me I always seem to get explosive growth until the first week or two/three of flower and then the yellowing in the upper growth starts and progressing to the spotting on the leaves.while I still have had good yields and quality and I think it is definitely holding me back to some extent.

I have diagnosed it as a calcium deficiency as it seems to fit all the symptoms but despite trying to correct with oyster shell flour, EWC and/or another organic Calcium supplement I had on hand I could never quite bounce back. Also, prior to planting I have always added dolomite lime to my medium which is a blend of peat/compost EWC and amendments.

So this leads me to believe there is plenty of Calcium available but it is getting locked out somehow. I am starting to suspect that it may be caused by the soil becoming acidic possibly due to being too anaerobic because of the mulch cover? The plants have the explosive growth in veg with a big calcium appetite and then get starved for it affecting flower?

Very curious to hear yours or anyones thoughts on this? Your plants seem to have recovered quite well and maybe that is partly due to your removing the covers?

Cheers all! and Im stoked to finally be posting and learning!