Live Stoner Chat Live Stoner Chat - Oct-Dec '23

[420Forever]

i'll see ur original & raize u one cover... ppp

 

[Badfinger]

i'll see ur original & raize u one cover... ppp

I normally am not a fan of covers over the original. But years ago I got into a very heated argument over one cover I still think is better then the original.

 

[Lil Dab]

So ya gonna be my lead man on the RBF v4, cool, and good luck.

Uhh yeah sure but aren't you like 9 weeks ahead of me?

 

[Lil Dab]

i'll see ur original & raize u one cover... ppp

I got nothing it seemed appropriate at the time and had just played

 

[JM]

Well, funny you should ask that....
The first year I had this tree it BLEW UP with monster Lemons! A good 50 or so I'd say! Was IMPRESSIVE!

Then I got all soil cocky thinking "support fruiting with calcium /phos/potassium etc... and gave it an "upgrade" of Coast Of Maine Lobster Mix.... I got some lemons for about the last 5 years but NOTHING like the first... So I think my soil is/was a bit imblanaced... and I THINK this summer I got it dialed closer in now...
BUT.. It was in the greenhouse and we had some COLD spells... so I can't be sure environemtnwasnt part pof the problem...
I am hoping with some new soil amendments coming, foliar feeds, and the Medigrow lights, as well as a MAJOR prune I can get it back happy again...
And THEN.... I will start rebuilding my citrus collection (blood organe, key lime.... all the GOODIES!).... and in the meantime long term build a greenhouse at my parents [property that will PROPERLY accomadate my citrus orchard....
BHAG (Big Hairy Audacious Goal)!


So.. all that as context that I am no expert at citrus yet...

If your greenhouse temps can be kept nice (not below 60F say)... That's probably the place to go...

And when my Kis Organics nutrient packs get here, I plant to add some and hope to really balance out.... I'll let you know how I make out...
Please, if I forget... tag me from time to time... keep me engaged on this.
cheers man! Glad to see another citrus grower wanna be like me with passion!

oh yeah... I can speak on pruning a bit...
eliminate and internal cross branches... in other words, branches that shoot in toward the center of the plant... you want ONLY outward reaching branches.. preferably 30+ degrees to 90 degees (perpendicular) to the stem.
additionally... control growth and bushiness (and consequently support bud sites for yield) by limiting vertical growth. Pretty much hold the height you want to maintain. Most trees will TRY to reach up.. and in pretty much all orchard cases, you want to control that growth to a large degree.
Remember, when pruning tops, on ANY plant, we are tipping the cytokine/auxin balance....
That is, as we trim tops, we reduce the volume of the plants shoots... and in doing so.. tip the balance in favor of cytokines... root hormones effectively...
So that causes root growth,which in the next returns as a flush of shoot tip growth. In amongst the life cycle of any plant... they are ACTUALLY alternating back and forth on a much smaller scale than we realize between vegetative and reproductive growth. John Kempf speaks specifically on this in one of his webinars on Advancing Eco Agriculture's Yout-Tube channel.
So, hope that helps...

 

[420Forever]

I normally am not a fan of covers over the original.

meh, dependz on the band, dependz on the song....potato, potahto ppp

 

[Badfinger]

Uhh yeah sure but aren't you like 9 weeks ahead of me?

Nope, my plants the first release. I wont be doing the v4 til Feb.

 

[Lil Dab]

Nope, my plants the first release. I wont be doing the v4 til Feb.

Alright well cool I get a journal up and going once they sprout

 

[JM]

oh yeah... I can speak on pruning a bit...
eliminate and internal cross branches... in other words, branches that shoot in toward the center of the plant... you want ONLY outward reaching branches.. preferably 30+ degrees to 90 degees (perpendicular) to the stem.
additionally... control growth and bushiness (and consequently support bud sites for yield) by limiting vertical growth. Pretty much hold the height you want to maintain. Most trees will TRY to reach up.. and in pretty much all orchard cases, you want to control that growth to a large degree.
Remember, when pruning tops, on ANY plant, we are tipping the cytokine/auxin balance....
That is, as we trim tops, we reduce the volume of the plants shoots... and in doing so.. tip the balance in favor of cytokines... root hormones effectively...
So that causes root growth,which in the next returns as a flush of shoot tip growth. In amongst the life cycle of any plant... they are ACTUALLY alternating back and forth on a much smaller scale than we realize between vegetative and reproductive growth. John Kempf speaks specifically on this in one of his webinars on Advancing Eco Agriculture's Yout-Tube channel.
So, hope that helps...
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Actually, give me a couple days, that lemon of kmine needs a good pruning. Planning on doing a video on it anyway, so I'll share it with you if you like for a practical walkthrough.

 

[Lil Dab]

Hey @Mañ'O'Green is there another pumpkin smash in the works for this year. I almost made the wife stop and get pumpkins tonight on our adventure