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Hey @WildBill do u think what i described my car doing could be a vacuum leak from that guy pulling my throttle body and then putting it back using the old gasket? Wondering if him reusing the old one maybe it failed and is letting air leak in bogging out the throttle body fuel to air ratio at higher rpms?

You could easily figure it out if you used some carb and choke cleaner around the gasket area, if your rpm's kick up, its an air leak.
 
Sorry forgot that part! :doh::rofl:

Its a 2013 honda accord sport 4cyl
Damn those things are usually pretty damn reliably bulletproof but it is a 11 year old car.
Well if you were in the same channel you can bring it over to my shop and I could throw it on the diag Machine and tell you what it is.
I would pull codes and then I'd look at live data and especially look at the short and long term fuel trims. There's no reason why a reasonable competent mechanic can't just diagnose the problem quite easy within 10 to 15 minutes easily. Especially if you drove driven it there and it's all warmed up and ready to go. Would take even less.
 
Been there start w/the cheapest first :toke:
I didn’t realize both those sensors (not MAF other 2) attach directly onto the throttle body and since it was mad dirty with carbon deposits i need to figure out if the guy that cleaned throttle body actually removed those sensors and cleaned them too or if he just cleaned out the throttle body itself and then reattached it! Need to figure out if i can get to those sensors without removing whole thing cuz if not will have to replace both just so i don’t need to keep replacing the gasket! Really don’t wanna tow it to a dealership tho and i would assume if one of those sensors was bad it would throw the check engine light which it hadn’t til I disconnected MAF with car running which is what made me suspect a vacuum leak! Assumed it may be ok at idle but once u start pressing gas pedal it allows too much air to get sucked in once under higher pressure!
 
You could easily figure it out if you used some carb and choke cleaner around the gasket area, if your rpm's kick up, its an air leak.
Throttle body is in a mad awkward spot on the back of the motor
 
I didn’t realize both those sensors (not MAF other 2) attach directly onto the throttle body and since it was mad dirty with carbon deposits i need to figure out if the guy that cleaned throttle body actually removed those sensors and cleaned them too or if he just cleaned out the throttle body itself and then reattached it! Need to figure out if i can get to those sensors without removing whole thing cuz if not will have to replace both just so i don’t need to keep replacing the gasket! Really don’t wanna tow it to a dealership tho and i would assume if one of those sensors was bad it would throw the check engine light which it hadn’t til I disconnected MAF with car running which is what made me suspect a vacuum leak! Assumed it may be ok at idle but once u start pressing gas pedal it allows too much air to get sucked in once under higher pressure!



What engine?

2011 I think it was still the 2.4?

I has a 2008 with that engine.
 
Damn those things are usually pretty damn reliably bulletproof but it is a 11 year old car.
Well if you were in the same channel you can bring it over to my shop and I could throw it on the diag Machine and tell you what it is.
I would pull codes and then I'd look at live data and especially look at the short and long term fuel trims. There's no reason why a reasonable competent mechanic can't just diagnose the problem quite easy within 10 to 15 minutes easily. Especially if you drove driven it there and it's all warmed up and ready to go. Would take even less.
I couldn’t drive it anywhere thats for sure! Can barely get to 15mph before its sputtering and being a pain in the ass!
 


What engine?

2011 I think it was still the 2.4?

I has a 2008 with that engine.

Ya I already figured that part out and totally pulled sensor earlier! Looked clean to me but didn’t have MAF sensor cleaner and didn’t wanna just use another cleaner on it I wasn’t sure about! I have throttle body cleaner I know that! Gotta see what others i have if another would be fine to use!
 
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