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So i have also had a period of non porn /adult internet ,,,,i aint in to fish but i got quite engrossed in mamo aquarium scaping

You are going to have to explain..... :pighug: ...I've seen aqua ponics...where you feed the plants with fish poop watter...but this in new to me.....
 
You are going to have to explain..... :pighug: ...I've seen aqua ponics...where you feed the plants with fish poop watter...but this in new to me.....

well yes...that is the other side of the coin :smoking: ,,,one step at a time :biggrin:,,,i cant grow for a wee while( lol new furniture arrived in all this our bedroom contains all our old shit ,,everything lino ,,wooded flloor carpets ,,couches,, curtains,all and every bit of crap tou can imagine,,) good job we have a 3 seater each ta sleep on ,,and the box with bits and pieces comes next week ,,we can try it together,,,,with a long term plan of a wee canna plant sitting on top,,,:smoking:

what about leccy price ,,marshydro need ta come up with solar powered stuff :crying:,,,

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they big tanks ,,i going to try in a wee tank.(been done before and very well) by others but i going to give a try ,,:thumbsup:,,
 
,,i should be back more reg mow ,she aint nagging me,,ille worry when she says i need ta get a job:smoking:

:pighug: Happy Wife...Happy Life.....

Yeah..hubby lost his mother..she got covid and did reasonable..but a chest and water infection on top...and I Think she just ran out of puff....Bless her..:karmacloud:

He's just got back from the UK today...:pass:
 
well yes...that is the other side of the coin :smoking: ,,,one step at a time :biggrin:,,,i cant grow for a wee while( lol new furniture arrived in all this our bedroom contains all our old shit ,,everything lino ,,wooded flloor carpets ,,couches,, curtains,all and every bit of crap tou can imagine,,) good job we have a 3 seater each ta sleep on ,,and the box with bits and pieces comes next week ,,we can try it together,,,,with a long term plan of a wee canna plant sitting on top,,,:smoking:

what about leccy price ,,marshydro need ta come up with solar powered stuff :crying:,,,

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they big tanks ,,i going to try in a wee tank.(been done before and very well) by others but i going to give a try ,,:thumbsup:,,

Take plenty photos.....:photog:...good or bad it will make a Tutorial.........:biggrin:
 
Good Morfnoevight All You Happy Thursday Stoners!

BTW I blame AFN :rofl::crying:its here I learned :vibe:

:crying::crying::crying:@Dabber when you first came here I thought your plant pics were stolen because no new grower does that well........:worship:

Phase one. 70%+ RH: This starts out just like any other time you have done it. Once you have harvested your bud and trimmed it to your liking, hang it in a cool dark place. This is where we will part from tradition. Allow it to hang until the buds begin to feel like they are drying (note the temps and rh as this will rarely be the same during subsequent harvests). They will start to lose their "softness" in favor of a slightly crispy texture. We don't want to allow it to dry until the stems snap. THIS IS WRONG! We want the stems to be flexible. Not totally soft, but not snapping, either. If allowed to dry until the stems snap we risk it drying too much and losing an opportunity to take full advantage of the cure window. You see once the bud reaches the 55% RH range, the cure is dead. No amount of moisture added will revive this. If you are a brown bag dryer you can still use this technique, although I no longer do. I feel it is unneccessary at this point in the drying process. Just make sure you do not over dry. Also, this is a perfect time to calibrate your hygrometers with your new calibrating kit. This phase may take anywhere from 2 to 7 days depending on ambient temp, RH and strain, etc. It is important to be right on top of this phase. Sometimes we will notice thinner stemmed buds getting done quicker. It is ok to take these first and put them in the jar. Just screw the cap on very loosely until the bulk of the bud joins it.

Phase two. 70% to 65% RH: This is where the numbers game begins to kick in. Once you have reached the crispy bud/flexible stem stage, it is time to jar it up. Now there are a few options here.. Really you can jar it up just like always. Only, fill your jar 3/4 to 4/5 full so you have room to use your hygrometer. You can leave it on the stem, stem free, whatever. I personally prefer it in it's finished state, no stems. You can leave just a few stems intact for the sake of testing stem flexibility. Also, with more stems comes more moisture. This may fit well with your style, but it also may play havoc if mold is present. Once your bud is in the jar drop in the hygrometer and cap it. Keep an eye on your meter for the next hour or so. What we are shooting for in this phase is 70% RH maximum. If you hit 71% or greater, you will have to take the bud out to dry more. If this seems a little tricky here, it is. The cure, even though we are still in the dry phase, has been happening to a small degree since the moment the bud was cut. Basically now we are juggling time with mold prevention. We want to avoid any instance of mold, but we want to get every second of cure time in that we can. The goal in this phase is to start at a 70% maximum RH and, in a timely and mold free manner, bring the RH down to about 65%. The reason I say "about" is that if there is an issue with mold (i.e. the crop was exposed to heavy mold before and/or during harvest) we may chose to take the RH even lower, like 62%. This won't leave a huge window for curing, but it will keep the bud safe. Ideally, however, 65% will do. Generally you can tell pretty quickly if the bud is still too wet as the hygrometer % will climb pretty quickly (rate: 1% per hour or faster). You will also notice, at this point, that the bud will feel "wetter". That's ok. The reason for this is that while the exposed part of the bud began to dry quicker than the inside during phase one, the inside of the bud and stems retained a good deal of their moisture. Once in the jars (phase two) that moisture can no longer be efficiently evaperated off and moved to a different area, being replaced by dryer air. Once you have determined the RH, which may take up to 24 hours, you can begin burping the jars. This can be done at a rate of one to two hours once or twice a day, depending on initial RH reading. Your room RH, temp, strain, exposure to mold and hygro readings will dictate this for you and wether to go faster or slower. Slower is always better, but precipitating factors, as stated, may political name this.. Also, at the end of this stage is where most commercial bud will hit the open market, if you are lucky. The bud at this stage should have that super sticky icky velvety feel and the 'bag appeal' will be at it's very highest.

Phase three, 65% to 60% RH: Your buds are in the jar and RH is 65% or less. Perfect. The object of the game, as stated before, is to slowly release the moisture from the jar over time. Your buds are now in the cure zone. At this point we are looking for a much slower release than phase two and will shift to a short burp once a week. Your buds will deliver a nice smoke at around 60%, so the speed at which this is done (which translates directly to duration of burpage) is entirely up to you. It is at this stage that small stems should snap in two. It is also in this stage that you will meet true stability, or equalization, in RH. What that means is that the amount of moisture in the stems is no longer disproportionate to the buds, and moisture transfer or persperation (sweat) slows dramatically. This also means it will take much longer to get a true reading from your Hygrometer. A true reading at this point might take up to 36 hours, but that's ok.

So, do you know what your idea of a perfect smoking bud is? If you have followed the phases as you have read them, then this is the stage where you can find out. It may be as specific as a stationary RH value, or even a "window" between different values. Everyone on should know their Ideal smoking range. I prefer mine on a slightly dryer cure, say between 55 to 57%.

Phase four, 60% to 55%+ RH: Even though a true cure is far from over, your buds are truly ready to smoke if you wish. They are also ready to face long term storage. As stated before, the cure dies at -55%. It is ok for the cure to be dead if you have reached your desired cure level as later remoisturing can easily bring that bud back into your prefered smoking range. But, you can also continue the cure for long time periods and the trick to this is to stay above the 55% level. Unfortunately even claimed 'air tight' jars will allow bud to continue losing moisture over time. The trick here is to guarantee air tightness. Simon has suggested that he jars in air tight jars and double vacuum bags it as a way to ensure cure integrity. I am less picky. It is a good idea, though not neccessary, to leave a hygro in the jar and check it from time to time. I would start with once a week for the first month then, if everything is stable, once every month after that should suffice.

I am too lazy for all of that. I just dry to 11% on the meter and throw into a Grove Bag. Done.

Man I am starting to think this cat was dropped on its head as a baby…… :rofl:



PERHAPS SEVERAL TIMES!!!! :kitty:

I think she likes how it feels:kitty:
 
:pighug: Happy Wife...Happy Life.....

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:pighug: Happy Wife...Happy Life.....

Yeah..hubby lost his mother..she got covid and did reasonable..but a chest and water infection on top...and I Think she just ran out of puff....Bless her..:karmacloud:

He's just got back from the UK today...:pass:

lost me dad early and if i honest was glad mum went when she did ,,,bless them all,,,
Take plenty photos.....:photog:...good or bad it will make a Tutorial.........:biggrin:

i know you would kill this ,,,i had nothing to look at ,,lol intended,, for weeks ,,and in my mind thats like years aquarium peeps are more crazy than us and its legal :biggrin: ///

:bighug: missed ya,,,,:thumbsup:#

edit//might be the first time i ph something l:thumbsup: mmm saying that i need ta read that thread if yours i actually feel acidic
 
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