Live Stoner Chat Live Stoner Chat - Apr-Jun '25

I LOVE FREE SEEDS!
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:


:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Too bad Adam is no longer here to receive the praise !
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I'm just going to put the one they claim to be mold resistant outside in the regular earth box.
Early Frost will be done inside. Snow G did show VERY early outdoors, but rot got her. That combo should be pretty damn good!

Booklet has a lot of really nice Bud Porn!:headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:

Anyone else get on this freebie that I posted?
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Too bad Adam is no longer here to receive the praise !
:face::face::face::face::face::face:

Hey if you know where these cats are hiding, tell them to come back to AFN. I think it means a lot more when members reach out and say "hey we want you back" then us as the staff sometimes.
 
I LOVE FREE SEEDS!
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:


:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Too bad Adam is no longer here to receive the praise !
:face::face::face::face::face::face:


I'm just going to put the one they claim to be mold resistant outside in the regular earth box.
Early Frost will be done inside. Snow G did show VERY early outdoors, but rot got her. That combo should be pretty damn good!

Booklet has a lot of really nice Bud Porn!:headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:

Anyone else get on this freebie that I posted?
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Tell him you're doing cool things with under canopy lighting *snicker*
 
Hey if you know where these cats are hiding, tell them to come back to AFN. I think it means a lot more when members reach out and say "hey we want you back" then us as the staff sometimes.
Well, I got Adam to come here by badgering him on Instagram! I haven't seen any of his posts come up in a while.
If I find something out I'll post up

I wish Stan would come back too!:shrug:
 
I moght run into issues with heavy calcium eaters but i havent had a problem yet, probably because the nitrogen in fox farms comes from calcium nitrate, i dont know, but its working for me, and after looking at other base nutrients its the only one i found that didnt have calcium, aside from the nitrate form which doesnt count, i dont know why. At least until i get an RO system ill stick with what im using. Maybe the calcium carbonate becomes something else once in the solution with all the chelates, i dont know. But its working for me not adding extra calcium for now. @Mossy was mentioning how magnesium helps make calcium available in the human body, maybe a similar chemical reaction is occurring in the plant?

I don’t know that’s above I just know what @Mañ'O'Green has told me a few times and he’s a lot smarter than me when it comes to that stuff. Or @Waira he’s really smart either way this stuff takes me days to break down his posts sometimes

“Yes it is the calcium carbonates that cause the alkaline PH and it takes way to much buffer to make it right for growing. None of the calcium in the carbonate form is available to the plant and the little that is freed with the buffer is not worth the N or P problems you get.

It is a balancing act and some strains are more tolerant to different nutrient profiles, some people get really good at growing with their not so perfect conditions. “
:jointman: the pathway and interactions of CO2, CaCO3 in water is a bit tangled and runs in something of a interwoven circle... pH plays a huge role, and all this is just in water alone, to say nothing of all the other influencing chemistry going on with nutes, the medium, microbes, etc.,...
google it all and you'll see what I mean :wtf: LOL!

CaCO3 by itself in water is poorly soluble, What drives it to dissolve is when CO2 goes into solution, creating carbonic acid... there's your acidity and dissolving power. Again, it's a very weak reaction across the board so level of dissolved stuff is low, hence in part the low availability to the plant.
pH buffering occurs when free H+ gets snagged by carbonate (CO3--) to form bicarbonate (HCO3-). This is why RO/Di water itself has no capacity to buffer pH, there's no mineral content. CO2 does get in of course and will weakly acidify the RO/Di water... But in hard water the whole reaction gig comes into play.

Free Ca++ in all this mess is scarce as is, but this is the form the plant takes it up in only! What's more, as a double + charged ion, it's very reactive and will hook up with something pretty much instantly; what that is varies of course, especially in your grow... Hook up to something that isn't readily dissolvable in water and it's locked out, unavailable... Hydro growers may learn the hard way with Ca and sulfates, which will form gypsum as a flocculant glop in the tank! Or it locks up with some other nute ion, same deal, there but not available...

All this and more is going on in the root zone, a lot of it as a "flash moment" of availability next to the roots where surface cells react to snag them before something else does...
Chelation is the master here, which protects charged ions from reacting before the plant can take it up,... humic-fulvic, amino acids, synthetic types (like EDTA) are chelators. They 'smother" the charge, physically surround the ion, but don't actually form a real chemical bond (it's all weak charge attractions). This keeps them available until they bump into the right root cells that have the "biochemical machinery" to pop the chelator off and uptake the ion, and/or in some cases with fulvic and amino's, the whole complex get snagged and bagged... Fulvic is usable by the plant as a C source, amino's get used as is too so win-win there!

Yeah, Ca is in many products, always in soil, even Promix (soilless medium) has lime in it. Coco, nada! And that's a whole other ball of wax right there, hey? It can be a bitch to figure it all out, not get too much from various inputs and cause antagonistic uptake issues, or conversely not have enough which has a lot of negative consequences... Always keep in mind the cumulative apsects of this too. Too much Ca-Mg is more likely to cause problems as it is to fix one!

KingRatt, fighting hard water is an endless beating, I know too well... Get an RO system, no need to have a deionizer too (just one more thing to have to replace, $$). Just don't use the RO water by itself for various reasons... Personally, before I mix in anything else, I use filtered tap water to blend with, getting to about 150ppm (or water with just that)... I also use water from a self fill place (about 15ppm), "drinking water" which has some mineral content for better taste and healthiness... Cheap and easy! Some store have machines too, same thing...
 
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