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For those of you who love test results... I had the soil for my lawn tested since new grass doesn't seem to want to grow anymore. Never been fertilized or anything, I just mulch up the grass clippings and the leaves and leave them. Brought the soil samples to a local garden place and they send them somewhere and give recommendations for what to do through the year for $30
Need to find me a place like that! Def be easier then using the Hanna soil probe to get a ph reading! Plus recommendations would be helpful! Was it a small local shop or local branch of a chain place?
 
OK So... This is my plant after 20 days. She sprouted on the 7th and today is the 27th. What do you guys think, should I just give up and try again later? Or should I wait it out and she if she recovers at all?

She looks pathetic compared to the girls you all grow... :sad: :pass:
 

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My point wasn't that you specifically buy into that stigma, but that blaming such acts on mental health is indeed harmful to those of us (you, I, plenty of others in the LS crew, along with millions of others) who live with mental health issues. I don't know that I'm particularly in the headspace to properly explain what I mean, but "normal" folks already see people with mental health issues as volatile/weird/less than/etc, and it's taken decades of advocacy to chip away even a little bit at the shame and harmful stereotypes surrounding diagnosis/treatment/MHI in general.

Think of just how commonplace words that are degrading to those with MHI are part of all of our vocabulary. Retard (down syndrome), crazy (several conditions), idiot (down syndrome/IQ impairment), dumb (of deaf and dumb), bipolar (self explanatory though generally used in the same way as crazy), psycho (psychopath, but again used like crazy), the list goes on and on. All used in diagnostics at one point or another, oftentimes antiquated terms that are generally used in a negative way in order to put someone down.

Idk. It's hard for me to see people I respect, genuinely care about, and consider good friends say things that are harmful to others (regardless of if its intended or not). I'm genuinely not mad or trying to start any sort of argument or anything like that, but I did figure it was worth mentioning.

Personally I believe it to be an incredibly complex issue in which mental health is absolutely a factor, but it is by no means the only one. That being said, if it were purely a matter of mental health what are we doing as a country to address that issue? How do we support mental health when treatment is incredibly cost prohibitive and those who need it most are very often unable to seek it?

I was my daughter's age when Columbine happened. Myself and my children have all grown up in a world where school is no longer a safe place to learn. Two, now three generations of children in this country have had to learn what to do, where to hide, how to be silent while in imminent danger. It's traumatizing and it absolutely has psychological effects.

Even if it never happens, you still have that anxiety every single day. What if today is the day? Every goodbye at the bus stop or drop off could be the last. I'm no expert, but living every day not knowing, on high alert at any loud noise in the school, the momentary frozen fear when the fire alarm goes off, and the traumatic repeated experience that is active shooter drills, those have got to be breeding their own special type of mental illness. Entire generations living with complex PTSD because the grown ups who are supposed to keep them safe refuse to do anything at all to hold up their end of the bargain.

There is no easy fix to such a complex and complicated issue, but not doing anything at all certainly isn't the answer.
Actually, I wasn't blaming it on mental health, I was blaming the lack of metal health care of those that are in dire need of care, on the stupid ass 'officials' that are in charge.

It IS a fine line to walk between the needs and privacy of individuals and the needs of public safety.
There needs to be a correction of what happened in the 70s thru the 80s. If I remember correctly, it was first started as a way cut state budgets and then 'patient rights' were used to add to and further justify further cuts. All state budgets for mental health have declined since the 70s. That's sad! I had to call in a couple favors to find one of the guys I served with, to get him a bed at a state hospital. He had been struggling for several years. I did what I could for him, but he was so proud and stubborn as hell. When I found him, he was in such a mess. I had to put on my game face, because I was starting to tear up. VA wouldn't do anything, since he never went to them to get evaluate him for disability. No beds were available at any state hospital on a volunteer basis. I made a call to Austin and then to a local judge. My Austin contact called the Judge and set it up. We got him legally committed, and that's what he wanted. He was able to catch his breath and gather it in. He fought hard and gained the coping and other skills he needed.

I totally get where you're coming from. I remember you commenting on some of the things your Moms has said to you about your problems. I just shook my head. You do amazingly well with what you have on your plate..............even without your 'problems'.

The issue sure as hell isn't simple. Work needs to be done for the harmful people AND others that need help but can't afford it.
But SOMETHING needs to be done about the mental health issue,
 
Need to find me a place like that! Def be easier then using the Hanna soil probe to get a ph reading! Plus recommendations would be helpful! Was it a small local shop or local branch of a chain place?
Small family owned garden center type place. But they send the samples to https://spectrumanalytic.com/ :d5: . Dropped the soil at the garden center last Saturday and got the results email today. Any local college around you with an agricultural dept should be able to do it for you too
 
OK So... This is my plant after 20 days. She sprouted on the 7th and today is the 27th. What do you guys think, should I just give up and try again later? Or should I wait it out and she if she recovers at all?

She looks pathetic compared to the girls you all grow... :sad: :pass:

mmm....well, if it'z any consolation, i've had plantz even smaller at the same age, so...:rofl: :rolleyes2: it'z up to u what u do, but u may wanna drop another bean or two if ya have em, jus for backup, whilst u keep an eye on this one to see what she duz....jus me own 2 ctz :shrug: ;) ppp
 
OK So... This is my plant after 20 days. She sprouted on the 7th and today is the 27th. What do you guys think, should I just give up and try again later? Or should I wait it out and she if she recovers at all?

She looks pathetic compared to the girls you all grow... :sad: :pass:
mmm....well, if it'z any consolation, i've had plantz even smaller at the same age, so...:rofl: :rolleyes2: it'z up to u what u do, but u may wanna drop another bean or two if ya have em, jus for backup, whilst u keep an eye on this one to see what she duz....jus me own 2 ctz :shrug: ;) ppp
:yeahthat: :pass:
 
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