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Could be too strong of wind or you over watered. Did you lift your pot to see how heavy or light it was before watering again? If you water or feed when the pot is too wet that will happen. You dont want it to dry completely out or soil can become hydrophobic meaning it doesnt lile to absord water correctly leaving air pockets in your soil. When ths top layer of soil dries i lift the pot. if its heavy i dont feed. if its light but not fully dry I water/feed. Could you have maybe ovwrwatered? or is a fan too close or too strong? Looks like nutrient burn on the leaf tips or could be a lock out if ph isnt correct or if too much fertilizer in the grow medium.

I checked and the soil is wet. I have one of those wet dry multimeters that check the soil ph too, so I use that when I water too.


You have "The Claw" Nitrogen Toxicity!
Cut back on the N (Nitrogen) reduce the fertilizer solution!

I fed her the other day with worm tea. Should I flush the soil with clean PH water? Perhaps I used too much castings in it?
 
Have you ever tried smoking the flowers and leaves?
Passion Flower
dried passion flower with blurry background - smokable herbs

Dried Passion flower
The dried flowers, leaves, and stems of passion flower are used to promote well-being, calm, and relaxation. The plant is traditionally used to fight anxiety and insomnia. When smoked, passion flower immediately causes feelings of sleepiness and is frequently used in herbal blends to cure insomnia.
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Overview
The passion flower is not only admired for its beauty and religious significance, but for its powerful sedative qualities.
Passiflora incarnata, also known as maypop, purple passion flower, true passion flower, wild apricot, and wild passion vine, belongs to the Passifloraceae genus and is native to southern parts of America. It produces brilliant, showy flowers with a distinctive corona.
Traditionally used as a remedy for promoting calm and treating seizures, hysteria, and anxiety, passion flower is still renowned as a relaxant and sedative. It is used as a tea, supplement, and smokeable herb.
History
Passion flower was first used by the Aztecs of Mexico as a folk remedy for anxiety and insomnia. The Algonkian Indians in Virginia and Creek people in Florida were said to have eaten the fruits of the plant, as did the European settlers later on.
The flower was named when Hernando Cortez conquered Mexico in the 16th century and the priests and soldiers who accompanied him thought that the whitish-purple flowers of the vine symbolized the Passion of Christ. They believed the corona in the center of the flower was Christ’s crown of thorns, and the five stamens represented the number of Christ’s wounds. The flower’s tendrils were the whips used to beat him, and the five petals represent 10 of the apostles.1 The Spanish explorers believed that the passion flower was a symbol of Christ’s passion and therefore an indication of his ‘approval’ for their expedition.
The use of Passiflora as a medicine was first noted by a Spanish researcher Monardus in Peru in 1569. As well as a sedative, Native Americans used passionflower to treat boils, wounds, earaches, and liver problems.2
Later in America, passion flower became approved as a sedative and was sold over the counter as a sleep aid. However, science failed to prove its effectiveness and safety, and it was taken off the market in 1978.

Medicinal Benefits
When used in traditional medicine, passion flower is often combined with other herbs and used as a sedative to promote relaxation and calmness. Its flavonoids and alkaloids are believed to stimulate the central nervous system (CNS) in the same way as MAO inhibitors, a type of antidepressants that are no longer used due to the availability of antidepressants with few complications. 3
  • Relieves anxiety and restlessness
    Some researchers have claimed that Passiflora incarnata exhibits its effects by modulating the GABA system. GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid) is a neurotransmitter involved in regulating communication between brain cells and plays an important role in behavior, cognition, and the body’s response to stress. Low levels of GABA have been linked to schizophrenia, depression, anxiety, and sleep disorders.

    It’s suggested that passionflower’s flavonoids bind to the benzodiazepine site of the GABAA receptor, increasing the concentration of GABA in the brain and producing a feeling of relaxation. 4
  • Reduces anxiety before surgery
    Some research shows that taking passion flower tea or tincture 30-90 minutes before surgery can reduce anxiety. Some reports claim it may be as effective as pharmaceutical treatments for pre-operative anxiety such as melatonin or midazolam. 5
  • Reduces symptoms of opiates withdrawal
    The anxiolytic effects of passion flower have made it a potential alternative to clonidine, a drug used in the detoxification of opiates. One study showed that taking passiflora alongside clonidine helped reduce negative side effects, making it a potential agent for managing withdrawal symptoms. 6

  • Improves sleep
    Animal studies have shown that passion flower extract significantly helps to increase total sleep time and significantly decrease wakefulness. Passion flower appears to shorten sleep latency and increase short-wave sleep, making it an effective sleep inducer and a potential remedy for insomnia. 7

  • All-round relaxant
    Passionflower’s anxiolytic properties have been used in treating other conditions aggravated by stress and anxiety, including attention deficit-hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), pain, fibromyalgia, hypertension, asthma, and some gastrointestinal ailments.
You might be interested in this article about additional benefits of passion flower
Method of use / dosage
All the parts of the passion flower plant above the ground can be used as medicine.
Passion flower tea
Passionflower tea helps to soothe the nervous system, ease an anxious mind, relieve headaches, and promote restfulness. A teaspoon of fresh or dried leaves is added to boiling water for around 10 minutes and taken 1-2 hours before bedtime.
Passion flower supplements
Passion flower capsules of 400 mg extract have been used to treat anxiety, with a dosage of twice daily for 2-8 weeks. 8
Liquid extract can be given at a dosage of 45 drops daily for up to one month. For pre-surgery anxiety, 20 drops of a specific passion flower extract or 5ml passion flower syrup (containing 700 mg of passion flower extract) can be taken 30-90 minutes before the start of surgery.
Smoking passionflower
Smoking the dried leaves of passionflower are reported to produce a high similar to that of marijuana. It is also said to have a similar grassy smell, but an earthy flavor and pleasant, smooth smoke. Some sources recommend it as a complement to cannabis in order to balance out the stimulation from high-THC strains. 9
Smoking passion flower is also touted as an excellent alternative for those trying to quit nicotine.
Effects of smoking
Passionflower’s therapeutic effects are thought to be due to its beta-carboline alkaloids, which are CNS stimulants, serotonin antagonists, hallucinogens, and short-term MAO inhibitors. Concentrations of small doses of these substances such as harmaline (25-50mg) are shown to be mild cerebral stimulants, and can sometimes produce a drowsy or dreamy state for 1-2 hours. Larger doses (up to 750mg) may result in hallucinogenic effects. 10

In 1985, pseudonymous writers Gracie and Zarkov described their experiences with smoking extracts of passionflower, Syrian rue and Banisteriopsis Caapi in combination with synthetic DMT as “not particularly psychedelic or hallucinogenic. One feels calm.” 11
They also noted that the calming effect of smoking passion flower can produce a significant change in facial expression, lethargy in the limbs and some trembling. Higher dosages may lead to dizziness and nausea without an increase in the high. Some ‘hypnagogic’ visions can be noted, along with a noticeable antidepressant effect, possibly due to the combination of alkaloids. 12
The high comes on and stabilizes after about 5 to 10 minutes or smoking, but remains only a ‘foggy’ high.
Side effects
Passion flower is generally safe when used as a tea, and can be consumed nightly for up to a week without side effects. It can also be safely taken as a medicine for up to 8 weeks.
Some common reported side effects include drowsiness, dizziness, and confusion, while there have also been reports of irregular muscle action, altered consciousness, nausea, rapid heart rate, vomiting and inflamed blood vessels.
Smoking passion flower may also lead to slowed reaction time and drowsiness, so it’s advisable to avoid driving or operating heavy equipment.
It should not be taken during pregnancy and breastfeeding
Legal status
Passiflora incarnata is not under any control in the United States or internationally. The leaves, flowers and extracts can be cultivated, bought, and distributed without a license or prescription.
I've tried it... Doesn't work as well as a good potent Indica.
 
I checked and the soil is wet. I have one of those wet dry multimeters that check the soil ph too, so I use that when I water too.




I fed her the other day with worm tea. Should I flush the soil with clean PH water? Perhaps I used too much castings in it?
You are massively overwatering that plant……the worm tea was not a great idea….the plant is stunted and probably a lost cause at this point….you’ve got to let her dry between watering….all this talk about “hydrophobia” has steered you in the wrong direction….by being afraid of letting her dry out, she’s stayed overwatered. I don’t pay ANY attention to the hydrophobic talk….let her get thirsty, then give a full feeding, and let her be until she’s thirsty again. Once you learn how to properly water the plants will do great…. :pass:
 
You are massively overwatering that plant……the worm tea was not a great idea….the plant is stunted and probably a lost cause at this point….you’ve got to let her dry between watering….all this talk about “hydrophobia” has steered you in the wrong direction….by being afraid of letting her dry out, she’s stayed overwatered. I don’t pay ANY attention to the hydrophobic talk….let her get thirsty, then give a full feeding, and let her be until she’s thirsty again. Once you learn how to properly water the plants will do great…. :pass:
I agree with this statement. Overwatering was my first thot. Biggest mistake new growers make. Them roots may have or may get root rot (pythium) if overwatered. Or they just drown and die. If you dont have bennies around lkle Recharge or Great White you may lose that plant. Dont water until the pot is light. Next time you do water id use some beneficial bacteria like Recharge to protect your roots and handle the root rot ifyou did get it. Root rot can kill a plant quick.
 
Hey @PatRatt if you want to know what happened….if you decide to start over….pull that plant and check out the roots. I’m willing to bet they never reached out towards the edges and bottom of the pot….just a small localized set of roots. When they’re overwatered there’s no reason to search outwardly to find feed solution…in my opinion of course
 
You are massively overwatering that plant……the worm tea was not a great idea….the plant is stunted and probably a lost cause at this point….you’ve got to let her dry between watering….all this talk about “hydrophobia” has steered you in the wrong direction….by being afraid of letting her dry out, she’s stayed overwatered. I don’t pay ANY attention to the hydrophobic talk….let her get thirsty, then give a full feeding, and let her be until she’s thirsty again. Once you learn how to properly water the plants will do great…. :pass:

I'm kinda nervous about trying again now. I only have a couple seeds left. Expensive mistake, for me anyways. Let's just say this, I pretty much don't have the money to buy a lot of seeds. I am on limited funds at the moment which is why I don't grow inside. Can't afford the equipment. (That and I can't smell up the house)
 
I love coriander!
I used to hate it, it just tasted ... well it tasted "too green"!
Now i can't get enough of it.

I HATE IT....... :biggrin: .......I HATE IT......

This morning 9 am the air was Filled with it...indoors and out......I didn't have to ask if the sheep were In...I knew by the smell.....yuk..yuk..yuk.....

But hey....No-one will be able to smell my girls on the patio ....all they are going to smell is overpowering Corriander.....

Never look a Gift Goat in in the mouth huh.....?..........:gary:


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@Mañ'O'Green ...I Know where to get some nice goat milk that Tastes of Corriander....if you are making a green curry.......:chef:


My legs are now like blocks of stone,my poor calf muscles need so serious TLC,I traversed a lot of challenging terrain!
Well that's me done,I caught up with LS, I have reported in now it is time for a well earne vape and a hot, bath to relax my muscles (Magnesium Sulphate soak)!

Poor @arty zan ....:pighug:..gotta admire the tenacity of Guerilla growers.....if somewhere is Easy to get to....Everybody has been...so it has to be somewhere no one else wants to go.............:shrug:



I Hope you find somewhere soon......:growing::growing:
 
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Also, the thing about autoflowers is that the clock is ticking. They have a set timeline they’re going to stick to. There’s not a lot of time for them to recover from issues like overwatering. Once they’re stunted, they’ll generally stay that way….and you end up with what my old pal Stone calls Bud On Stick….basically a thin stem with one or two buds on top. The most important time for an auto is the first 20-25 days….get that part right and you’ll be rewarded….might even get a monster plant. But, nobody’s getting big heavy producing plants without getting the start right. Hope it helps :pass:
 
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