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[Shiva's Mistress]

Try making Fermented Fruit Juice for flowering PK and enzyme boost. I'll be using it this round so can't speak from experience though. It can be ready as soon as a week or so and is cheap to make. Google it under Korean Natural Farming. Having access to papaya, bananas and pumpkins should be easy enough in your area.

I also purchased some organic sea salt. Around 1g per liter to be used towards the end of flower for minerals. This supposedly increases terps.

Just for your reference. You can read up on it and decide if its suitable for your needs?

Interesting! Plenty of papaya and banana, will look into it.
Sea salt, won't that affect pH and raise Na levels?

 

[bakEQuatorial]

Interesting! Plenty of papaya and banana, will look into it.
Sea salt, won't that affect pH and raise Na levels?

1g per liter supposedly constitutes diluted seawater. At that concentration, should be fine. I soaked my Soil with 1g per liter before planting, along with Fermented Plant Juice and Fish Amino Acid. All can be homemade.

Check out Korean Natural Farming inputs.

 

[hecno]

@Shiva's Mistress Hello Hello , now I know where you are , me and computers don't get on very well . I'm just a old bushy I have to tell you I am new to growing outdoor photos so I have limited experience , but in saying that growing is growing . I have just finished reading your posts , Bat Guano and Kelp will be your 2 new best friends . Seeing what is growing around the plants the native soil is doing it's job . Now - Fulvic acid would help you greatly . use it alone or even better with Humic acid . The 3rd member is Amino acid . @Waira set me on this path . What you will find is the uptake of nutrients is better and you soil ph stabilizes . I won't go on to much as it is all there in the Organic Section . Ist post at the top of the page . I gather your roots have expanded into the native soil . This is where Fulvic comes into play .

 

[smokeyfromau]

Thanks for the support, Smokey!

Your plants, especially those Hazes, are going to be amazing!

Thanks for also for the support SM! I have used brown sugar with the autos since they are in the flush. I just put a tablespoon to a watering can (9L can). I am not sure that is correct amont, but it pretty much like mollasis, brown sugar, the smell anyway lol

 

[Waira]

...bush Ninja girls (all I hope!) are looking great Missy! they blend in rather well, and the bugs don't seem to be hammering them at all, a big plus, and a good sign of general health...
Dolomite is a good choice, since it's a slower, longer lasting release (some chemical differences vs. lime and shell's),... Ca is a big facilitator element for other nute's uptake, and if you local soil is swampy, lots of tannic acids in waters, then it's likely low in Ca....
I dunno about the sea salt thing,... Na is shit, but the other trace minerals are great... Cl is one of them, often overlooked! But for terp's/resins, only thing I've come across on late bloom supp'ing is Mn, S and K,... sea salt likely doesn't have enough, if any, to be of help and to make the Na worth it!

I know the usual basics, the high PK ferts, keeping RH low (what can I do outdoors??).
But any other last pointers for that Thai Gold (and the Jack a month from now)

...bat poops for P, but usually weak in K,... in reference to above, I use a salt substitute KCl, for Cl, but for you, a pinch can help boost the K... And hec' mentioned the humic-fulvics, which chelate them and make them available for uptake,... humic is more beneficial for the soil, fulvic is fine too but better on the plant (foliar) if using a pure source, it's small enough to be taken directly in along with what's potentially chelated, and can be used as a Carbon source... Humic is too large to get in to cells....
Any sugars are for the soil herd, but in the wild, it may be moot, even bad, attracting the bad guys too (bugs etc.)....
....pH, as long as it's in range is fine, no need to tinker,...
I hear some slower dry stressing can make the plant beef up resins, but that's a risky gig in you case,... a day or so too late and you'll be harvesting whether you want or not, dead/dying damaged plant and root is past saving basically...

 

[Shiva's Mistress]

@Shiva's Mistress Hello Hello , now I know where you are , me and computers don't get on very well . I'm just a old bushy I have to tell you I am new to growing outdoor photos so I have limited experience , but in saying that growing is growing . I have just finished reading your posts , Bat Guano and Kelp will be your 2 new best friends . Seeing what is growing around the plants the native soil is doing it's job . Now - Fulvic acid would help you greatly . use it alone or even better with Humic acid . The 3rd member is Amino acid . @Waira set me on this path . What you will find is the uptake of nutrients is better and you soil ph stabilizes . I won't go on to much as it is all there in the Organic Section . Ist post at the top of the page . I gather your roots have expanded into the native soil . This is where Fulvic comes into play .

Thanks for these ideas, @hecno -- yes, this is where my LBH guerilla girls are hanging out!

Actually, these girls are in pots, not in the soil.
Just can't really see the pots as the undergrowth is really thick, maybe 3' high+.

Usually it can rain so heavy here the ground will have pooled water.
To avoid that, and increase drainage, I used cloth pots.
Then we have this climate-change inspired summer of low rain and high heat...
The native grasses are so thick, I can't even get these pots on the ground.
They are literally sitting off the earth about 10cm = 4", on a thick, thick layer of grass stems...

What I have them in is about 2 gal = 8L cloth pots, about 30% coco, 50% soil,
10% worm castings, as well as perlite and vermiculite, a bit of biochar, polymer "water" crystals,
chicken sh!t fert, other organic fert, kelp powder and myccos.

I don't have guano, and it's not that easy to get here.
But do have a huge bag of kelp powder, so will go with more of that then.
It's got a lot of carbs/sugars, and amino acids.

Will have to think of fulvic and humic acid ways and means...

Thank you!!!!!

 

[Shiva's Mistress]

Thanks for also for the support SM! I have used brown sugar with the autos since they are in the flush. I just put a tablespoon to a watering can (9L can). I am not sure that is correct amont, but it pretty much like mollasis, brown sugar, the smell anyway lol

Okay, cool, maybe can try brown sugar instead of molasses, or some honey...
Thank you!

 

[smokeyfromau]

Okay, cool, maybe can try brown sugar instead of molasses, or some honey...
Thank you!

Np SM I am not much an expert there, but it hasnt seemed to hurt the autos so far. I have used molasses in the past, I just assume sugar is sugar weather honey or sugar or molasses.
https://support.ilovegrowingmarijuana.com/t/does-brown-sugar-or-molasses-benefit-any/3935/5
https://www.royalqueenseeds.com/blog-how-sugar-plays-a-major-role-in-growing-cannabis-n1011

someone here in this forum says brown sugar is no good, but i just assume its not far off being molassis as its not as refined as caster sugar or the standard sugar.
https://forum.grasscity.com/threads/brown-sugar-water-for-plants.1196381/

Royal Queen seeds has been great it starting me off growing with their tips etc. I must try there strains someday.

 

[Shiva's Mistress]

...bush Ninja girls (all I hope!) are looking great Missy! they blend in rather well, and the bugs don't seem to be hammering them at all, a big plus, and a good sign of general health...

They are def ninja girls!
Bugs, very few.
When it rains hard, maybe a giant snail.
But there's so much other growth around, that they are not on the menu...

Dolomite is a good choice, since it's a slower, longer lasting release (some chemical differences vs. lime and shell's),... Ca is a big facilitator element for other nute's uptake, and if you local soil is swampy, lots of tannic acids in waters, then it's likely low in Ca....
I dunno about the sea salt thing,... Na is shit, but the other trace minerals are great... Cl is one of them, often overlooked! But for terp's/resins, only thing I've come across on late bloom supp'ing is Mn, S and K,... sea salt likely doesn't have enough, if any, to be of help and to make the Na worth it!

Yes, the dolomite was a good idea, should have done it earlier.
Part of the problem is low pH rain water, acidic from nearby industry... in the 4.7-5.7 range!!!!

...bat poops for P, but usually weak in K,... in reference to above, I use a salt substitute KCl, for Cl, but for you, a pinch can help boost the K... And hec' mentioned the humic-fulvics, which chelate them and make them available for uptake,... humic is more beneficial for the soil, fulvic is fine too but better on the plant (foliar) if using a pure source, it's small enough to be taken directly in along with what's potentially chelated, and can be used as a Carbon source... Humic is too large to get in to cells....

I don't have guano access. Enough coco to have high K already, I think.

Any sugars are for the soil herd, but in the wild, it may be moot, even bad, attracting the bad guys too (bugs etc.)....
....pH, as long as it's in range is fine, no need to tinker,...

As I said to Hecno above -- these are not in the soil, but in fabric pots.
About 30% coco, 50% soil, 10% worm castings, plus other stuff.

I hear some slower dry stressing can make the plant beef up resins, but that's a risky gig in you case,... a day or so too late and you'll be harvesting whether you want or not, dead/dying damaged plant and root is past saving basically...

Yeah... this issue........ I haven't let them droop from water stress yet.
I think that when they are literally a few days to absolute max of 1 week away from harvest,
I'll leave without watering by hand.
Of course, will have to time this with rain, so always watching the weather...

Np SM I am not much an expert there, but it hasnt seemed to hurt the autos so far. I have used molasses in the past, I just assume sugar is sugar weather honey or sugar or molasses.
https://support.ilovegrowingmarijuana.com/t/does-brown-sugar-or-molasses-benefit-any/3935/5
https://www.royalqueenseeds.com/blog-how-sugar-plays-a-major-role-in-growing-cannabis-n1011

someone here in this forum says brown sugar is no good, but i just assume its not far off being molassis as its not as refined as caster sugar or the standard sugar.
https://forum.grasscity.com/threads/brown-sugar-water-for-plants.1196381/

Royal Queen seeds has been great it starting me off growing with their tips etc. I must try there strains someday.

Maybe I need to study this more before making a mess of them at this stage.

 

[Shiva's Mistress]

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Went for a visit to water them.
Three days of the usual hot days, no rain.
And none forecast for a few more days (maybe).

Round 3 -- Day 72 (Flowering Day 43)

She's still going well.
Her medium is hard on top, but she is not wilting.
Hardy strain!
Maybe more water crystals in there too (compared to Jacky).
A few lowers going yellow, pulled them off.
But she still has enough to go through her flowering.
Scent starting to come on, slightly fruity / lemon, but not strong yet.

Those two main colas of the same plant really do look like two different phenotypes, haha!

Sorry for the blur on this one!
Should turn out to be a nice cola, though!

Blurry too...


Round 4 -- Day 43 (Flowering Day 6)

This girl was wilting a fair bit, she needed that water!
Gave her about 2L, nice and slow.
Maybe she wasn't as soaked last time as I thought.
There are polymer crystals, which may need extra water to fill out.
Otherwise that water may have gone to the crystals, not the roots.
Double edged sword with those crystals.
Anyway, she perked right up after only 5-10 minutes.
I stripped off a few lower leaves, semi-lollipop.
Hitting flowering hard, now she's started.
Looks like long stems with round individual nugs starting for form.
Sorry no photos from the side to show the formation.
The top leaves are already reducing their leaflets, down to 7 (and maybe 5?)
So maybe she has already done most of her stretch.
She sure did shoot up in the last couple of weeks.

Love & hugs,
~SM