La Buena Hierba La Buena Hierba Seeds Grow N Show of 2021

[Waira]

Both Asian Haze fully popped the ground and beginning to unfurl!
I really prefer direct planting in the final pot size. I just couldn't do it in this grow. I plan to transplant early at about a week, depending on root growth. Is transplanting and then putting outside too much stress at one time? I'll have some soluble humates to help with the stress with a light dose.

The #1 thing is to not damage the roots... Everything I start goes into either Solo cups or 34oz styro gulpers, with tricks to minimize the roots abuse!
For the styro's, there's a tutorial I made showing how to do this,... for Solo's (auto's usually), I use two cups: the inner one split in half and taped lightly on one side, bottom removed, and then nested into an intact outer cup with drainage holes only... These will slip apart pretty easily, and the clam-shell inner opens up for easy removal... The pot they go into should have the exact same cup placed in it when filled, then removed to make a perfect fit pocket to slip into!
The trick is there for to be enough root mass to hold things together well enough to handle being removed and slipped into that hole,... middle level wetness of soil, not wet heavy saggy, not dry crumbly....

I started doing this to get seeds into warm soil for faster better germ'ing... I soak overnight, enough to sink, then into the soil they go! Typically 3-4 days to breaking surface, about 1.5cm deep... :smoking:

 

[WildBill]

The #1 thing is to not damage the roots... Everything I start goes into either Solo cups or 34oz styro gulpers, with tricks to minimize the roots abuse!
For the styro's, there's a tutorial I made showing how to do this,... for Solo's (auto's usually), I use two cups: the inner one split in half and taped lightly on one side, bottom removed, and then nested into an intact outer cup with drainage holes only... These will slip apart pretty easily, and the clam-shell inner opens up for easy removal... The pot they go into should have the exact same cup placed in it when filled, then removed to make a perfect fit pocket to slip into!
The trick is there for to be enough root mass to hold things together well enough to handle being removed and slipped into that hole,... middle level wetness of soil, not wet heavy saggy, not dry crumbly....

I started doing this to get seeds into warm soil for faster better germ'ing... I soak overnight, enough to sink, then into the soil they go! Typically 3-4 days to breaking surface, about 1.5cm deep... :smoking:

I've used the double cup method and it worked. I'm only transplanting when I have to do so,...............like the two AVT and 2 Asian Haze.
The new Wedding glue has already popped the surface in less than 24 hrs. I soaked it 24hrs and it had a tiny tail like the other. It's a very eager to germ and sprout, but the seedling is tiny.................very tiny.

Both Asian Haze are doing well. The little planters I have them are very thin and should release just fine with minimal manipulation. I've got the same planter stuffed with media and placed in the pots to make an easy transplant. Both Azian Hazr have shown the same vigor as the AVT, so I'm gonna put one in an Earth box and give the other the 16 gal. Since I was blessed with free test seeds, I feel giving them the best I have is only right. It should be an interesting test between the two styles of growing..

I think I'll have and easy transit from indoors to out with the day temps the same and inside and night are just above 70*F. Any tips to help the girls going without too much transplant shock/stall? When I mixed the media yesterday to wet it evenly and add some yucca, I got the moisture level to just over "Composting wet", which is a step or two down from fully watered. On transplant day, the media in the pot will need slight watering. Other than shaking some mycos in the hole, is there anything I can do to help with the transition? I've not had any problems in the past, but that was regular veggies.


Here's the two Asian Haze babies.

 

[Waira]

Both Asian Haze are doing well. The little planters I have them are very thin and should release just fine with minimal manipulation. I've got the same planter stuffed with media and placed in the pots to make an easy transplant. Both Azian Hazr have shown the same vigor as the AVT, so I'm gonna put one in an Earth box and give the other the 16 gal. Since I was blessed with free test seeds, I feel giving them the best I have is only right. It should be an interesting test between the two styles of growing..

I like that change-up in grow MO Bill, LBH will too I'm sure!
I'd say you have transplanting nailed, nut'in to add to that... The other thing I should have mentioned though is to be very careful to get your light hours in proper range at all stages... Don't run the seedling at 24/0, maybe 20/4 for a week or so at most, then start to get them down to current day/night sched' outside well before 3 weeks at most (I do 2 regardless). Remember, these are half auto, F1's I think, and their behavior will most likely be very sensitive to changes in light hours, easily triggered into bloom once mature enough... put them out from long light hours to current and you may trighger blooming, and then have them go sideways with reveg'ing! This happened to one guy in the OD Comp with his Fast Versions (basically what these Hz x's are), and they did not perform nearly at their best, though they did finish OK (more leafy than should have been IMO)...
There is a very small % chance they will auto or behave more like a regular ol' photo parent for triggering and bloom times. Otherwise, we should expect typical FV behavior: faster, easier bloom triggering, increased bloom speed.
...some notable breeders tout this double recessive allele thing with auto's, and that F1 photo/auto crosses cannot have auto'ing progeny, but I know from several sources and personal experience that this is false! (check out Sweet Seeds article in their section on the F1FV line and theory)
The auto genetics thing is more complicated than what a simple Punnit square inheritance can predict... 2 years ago I ran Stickman's MoB/OGK(fully photo) x C99a, and 2/2 plants did in fact auto; showed sex at about 3 weeks, went into bloom not long after that regardless of the light hour they were under... oddly, they did not have fast blooming really, they both took about the same time as the photo parent did... others have had similar experiences with this, so take such info with a grain of salt!
Also notable example: mates elsewhere got hold of some landrace PNG seeds, a true equatorial sativa, right? Loooong-ass bloom times normally,... guess what a few of them found happening in their tents? -- they had plants go into bloom under 20+hours of light! WTF, right? ..but there it was, no doubts about it,... And when you think about it, it's not so weird after all,... Consider that such equt. Sati's are at or near 12/12 their whole lives, shit they are almost "auto's" in a way, right, only coming at it from the other direction! I figure it's a little adaptation trick, rare but not detrimental at all to such a population of atypical plants, so their genes get carried on in that population. It may be somehow advantageous to be blooming male or female, off the normal cycle of the rest of the gang..... Point is, here's another totally different, absolutely no ruderalis involved "auto" mechanism in play!
Word from other growers/breeders who specialize in landrace/heirloom Sati's that they too have found goofy pheno's that do this as well in some lines...
Very interesting, yah?!

 

[WildBill]

Yah! Very interesting!
Waira


They are on 18/6 right now. On at 6PM and off at 12 noon.
How would you suggest I adjust my current light schedule or do you think I can just put them out in the morning and let 'em run? Either way, they will have to adjust to the light schedule. Maybe cut the lights at midnight tonight and start back up at 6AM?
I really don't want to transplant no later than next Friday or Saturday next week. I just don't want to delay the root system. Not super important with these girls, but I have AVT to transplant at the same time.

Gotta question for ya. I've two forms of soluble humic acid. It's gonna be a part of my watering with a low dose at every watering. Can I check the solubility of each by ppm with equal weights of humic acid and equal parts water and same time in solution? I want to be able to very exact with it so I can adjust by what the plant tells me.

ASIAN HAZE ........almost day 3

 

[DCLXVI]

@WildBill - MOG mentioned to me when I was asking about foliar spray with humic that you can't measure it by ppm. Only by dry weight before adding it. If you have a powder. No idea for liquid versions.

Here is the math I did out for his foliar version with humic/kelp although I think he just adds it to his reservoir.
Into 1 gal:
1 tsp = 5g
1/32tsp yucca .0031 tsp = 0.0155
Fulvic acid 1/4 tsp 0.25 tsp = 1.25g
Kelp 1/16tsp .0063 tsp = 0.0315g

Very very small amounts. Don't know if that's helpful.

 

[WildBill]

@WildBill - MOG mentioned to me when I was asking about foliar spray with humic that you can't measure it by ppm. Only by dry weight before adding it. If you have a powder. No idea for liquid versions.

Here is the math I did out for his foliar version with humic/kelp although I think he just adds it to his reservoir.
Into 1 gal:
1 tsp = 5g
1/32tsp yucca .0031 tsp = 0.0155
Fulvic acid 1/4 tsp 0.25 tsp = 1.25g
Kelp 1/16tsp .0063 tsp = 0.0315g

Very very small amounts. Don't know if that's helpful.

Ok! Sounds excellent! Thanks!!!

 

[bakEQuatorial]

Panama Haze, Diesel Deluxe and Asian Haze respectively at around Day 13. Transplanted them few days back. So far so good.

Group shot

 

[DCLXVI]

Quite robust! And only day 13? Growing quickly.

 

[bakEQuatorial]

Quite robust! And only day 13? Growing quickly.

Yup. Showed true leaves on 24th May. Already had roots come out of cup on Day 10, when transplanted.

Am happy so far but my last two grows were horrific so am still having some phobia lol. I usually mess them up in flower anyways so still way too early to tell lol. Thanks bro

Fingers crossed

 

[WildBill]

Sunday update with more details in sig thread.
CONDITIONS:
78*f 69%Rh
18/6
450 µmol/m 2
A/C in lung set to 75*F
One circ fan on
Exhaust fan 30% and blowing on driver

ASIAN HAZE DAY 9

I think the left one gets the Earth box, but she's gonna have to sturdy up a little

Yup. Showed true leaves on 24th May. Already had roots come out of cup on Day 10, when transplanted.

Am happy so far but my last two grows were horrific so am still having some phobia lol. I usually mess them up in flower anyways so still way too early to tell lol. Thanks bro

Fingers crossed

That's why I'm gonna transplant my 4 outdoor girls in the next couple of days.
Your girls look great!