Idea: Application for Testing Seeds

[Dichoti]

Sign me up for the "Let's see if this impatient a-hole can kill/stunt this one" part of it...

...ya' know, So they can see how resilient their genetics are.

 

[McDee]

Sign me up for the "Let's see if this impatient a-hole can kill/stunt this one" part of it...

...ya' know, So they can see how resilient their genetics are.

I would think that would be important for a breeder to know. They can say hey look even someone on their 1st or 2nd grow was able to get this. Then they have the results of more skilled growers to show how good their genetics are. Simply showing a huge plant by a grower everyone knows is an elite grower is like thinking the stripper really likes you lol. I love looking at some of these amazing plants, but I don't expect to grow 1 like that yet. Be nice to know with my equipment and experience level I could expect a more accurate idea of what i could grow.

 

[McDee]

Sign me up for the "Let's see if this impatient a-hole can kill/stunt this one" part of it...

...ya' know, So they can see how resilient their genetics are.

That could be a grow comp. Who can get the most out of the most abused plant. I like to beat mine up good. As long as I see them still growing i give them more.

 

[sniper]

I can almost guarantee there will be a requirement for at least 1 grow journal on site

 

[Mr.CHeeZe]

I really think that unless a breeder requests afn staff to screen testers for them, they should leave it to the breeder to decide who tests their gear.

Now if afn wants to implement a tester format for seed testing, yeah maybe.

But to do an application process seems like afn staff is just trying to control who gets to do test grows on afn. Not the breeders... imho

I know im probably gonna catch flack from this.

But @Son of Hobbes can you please explain why you feel you can decide who tests a breeders gear better than a breeder???

I mean if a breeder sees a growers work with their gear isn't it their decision who tests?

Again a actual format to follow for test journal could and would be helpful.

But aside from that, i don't see why there should be any application process. Unless a breeder requests it...

Not trying to be unkind. Just airing my opinion. For what it's worth.
Im a first time tester. In my first year of growing.
Doing tester thread now for mephisto.
Proudly have came a long way over last 6 runs. I believe Mitch saw that. And when i asked little while back, he said yes.

Ive bought extra lights.
Made sure i can keep environment in a desired range.
Also im confident in trouble shooting, and feeding programs. As well as spotting possible deficiencies.

That being said, i still definitely consider myself a beginner.
But unless i could meet the above mentioned criteria. I would of never asked.
And i plan to represent mephisto genetics to the fullest. Something afn should want me doing with a site breeder.
If i would've had to fill out application just for afn's approval. Wouldn't even of considered asking...

Just one mans humble opinion....
Hopefully can finish my tester journal here on afn for mephisto. If not will gladly represent them elsewhere on net.

 

[Dichoti]

I can almost guarantee there will be a requirement for at least 1 grow journal on site

Well, dang, Guess I better start one, then, instead of posting a pic of my grow every now and then in LS.


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[McDee]

I really think that unless a breeder requests afn staff to screen testers for them, they should leave it to the breeder to decide who tests their gear.

Now if afn wants to implement a tester format for seed testing, yeah maybe.

But to do an application process seems like afn staff is just trying to control who gets to do test grows on afn. Not the breeders... imho

I know im probably gonna catch flack from this.

But @Son of Hobbes can you please explain why you feel you can decide who tests a breeders gear better than a breeder???

I mean if a breeder sees a growers work with their gear isn't it their decision who tests?

Again a actual format to follow for test journal could and would be helpful.

But aside from that, i don't see why there should be any application process. Unless a breeder requests it...

Not trying to be unkind. Just airing my opinion. For what it's worth.
Im a first time tester. In my first year of growing.
Doing tester thread now for mephisto.
Proudly have came a long way over last 6 runs. I believe Mitch saw that. And when i asked little while back, he said yes.

Ive bought extra lights.
Made sure i can keep environment in a desired range.
Also im confident in trouble shooting, and feeding programs. As well as spotting possible deficiencies.

That being said, i still definitely consider myself a beginner.
But unless i could meet the above mentioned criteria. I would of never asked.
And i plan to represent mephisto genetics to the fullest. Something afn should want me doing with a site breeder.
If i would've had to fill out application just for afn's approval. Wouldn't even of considered asking...

Just one mans humble opinion....
Hopefully can finish my tester journal here on afn for mephisto. If not will gladly represent them elsewhere on net.

All you did is ask... sometimes the simplest answer is the correct 1 lol. It never occurred to me to just ask hahaha. I don't think anyone is saying you wouldn t be able to test, think what they want is to spread it around more. I have no idea how you become a tester, figure they sought you out after seeing grow journals. I am more of the opinion that setup up a list for people to sign up fill out a list of level of experience, indoor/outdoor, all the stuff that would matter. Then the breeders could say ok pick off the list, or it could just roll over the list when it's your turn you get something to test. If a breeder wants a certain grower to do a specific strain no one is stopping them from sending them to them too. Again it would be nice to see a few different skill levels growing the same plant. Although I can see how some testers would be upset that others get that honour too. In then end I guess it up to the breeders to decide if they want to be involved. Can't make them give seeds out lol. No worries, no one should give you flack bud. I still can't believe you just asked. I guess it's like the pretty girl no one asks out cause she will say no. Sometimes it pays to just ask. A lesson im still trying to learn hahaha.

 

[Mr.CHeeZe]

All you did is ask... sometimes the simplest answer is the correct 1 lol. It never occurred to me to just ask hahaha. I don't think anyone is saying you wouldn t be able to test, think what they want is to spread it around more. I have no idea how you become a tester, figure they sought you out after seeing grow journals. I am more of the opinion that setup up a list for people to sign up fill out a list of level of experience, indoor/outdoor, all the stuff that would matter. Then the breeders could say ok pick off the list, or it could just roll over the list when it's your turn you get something to test. If a breeder wants a certain grower to do a specific strain no one is stopping them from sending them to them too. Again it would be nice to see a few different skill levels growing the same plant. Although I can see how some testers would be upset that others get that honour too. In then end I guess it up to the breeders to decide if they want to be involved. Can't make them give seeds out lol. No worries, no one should give you flack bud. I still can't believe you just asked. I guess it's like the pretty girl no one asks out cause she will say no. Sometimes it pays to just ask. A lesson im still trying to learn hahaha.

Well there should be a certain skillset. Not even saying i reach it! Lol ya know.
Sure it would be cool to see what a certain genetic does with different skill levels. Just for loving to see the plant grown, by anyone, everyone, etc. And honestly can spend days looking at every skill level journal I can.
But ultimately. When all said and done. WE ALL wanna see what that strain can do!
And if that means getting it into the hands of the Elvis, tAng, gbd, awolace etc... to see what it can do, then thats it.
Cuz rather i achieve it or not, im trying to nail my grows like those cats...
And really these breeders put soooo much into their gear. It really needs to be shown for what it CAN be.
I was blown away by getting the yes from Mitch. And believe me, i tried to give him every chance to say no. I didn't want him saying yes, just because he's just a super cool guy, and didn't wanna seem mean lol. Cuz he really is that kind imho! So i believe i owe it to him to put forth 110% to show his gear for what it CAN do. And every grow, im nipping at the heels of those guys lol. Not really. But then again. This is my life! Can't stop! WONT STOP trying to dial my grow in, my environment, my knowledge, my research. Sorry just took a huuuuuge dab of fantasmo express frosin, and im zingin!!!-blah-blah-blah.... anyways. AFN is my favorite canna site there is. I agree, its ultimately upto the breeders. And when i look at it from another perspective. I can see how afn controlling a portion of seed product testing could be beneficial. But not all out control...
And i didn't, and don't think that's intention. Maybe read wrong initially. But, after rereading intial post, still feel that is somewhat the idea.

 

[Rev. Green Genes]

The app process can get a little hairy.. Which it should, lol. Testing is a serious job that is also a necessity. I test for two major breeders and a handful of others, and had to jump through all kinds of hoops and prove myself and earn trust before I got to test unreleased strains. I didn't mind, because I look at testing gear as a way I can give back to the canna community. The major issue is breeders having their genetics stolen or used by testers. A good percentage of interested testers either just want free seeds, or want to get/test unreleased genetics, to use for their own devices. Those types have to be weeded out. Perhaps there can be levels to it and the ability to test unreleased strains can earned.

If I was a breeder, I wouldn't want a group of newbies testing my gear and displaying it. Its too risky. If I saw a pic of a plant with issues, are those grower caused? Are they genetic? 1st impressions are everything. The breeders use the feedback and pics from testers on their websites ect. It can be a pretty big deal.

But I do think the app process is a good idea because there are a TON of gem growers hanging out here that may not post regularly!

excellent input Prophetiko, I have been around a few breeding projects for crops and everything you say is exactly what they worry about. People need to realize that breeding is a long term deal, it takes years to breed properly. I would not want unreleased seeds out there at all if they were mine. Maybe if I was already a big name, but certainly not if I was banking on it.

 

[Dabber]

Id just me honored to test seeds

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