I start my seedlings under my little chinese p1000 led about 12 inches away and turn it down so that I read about 300 on my tent buddy app.... That won't be an accurate 300 as its a phone app, but it keeps them stocky... The issue I have is that even though the seedlings have a light right above thier heads,   they are always trying to get to the decent light under the HLG's and lean towards them so I end up turning them every day..... Chinese lights look bright, but it says something about the actual quality of that light when the seedlings lean off to a better spectrum
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			
	

 = more weed for greedy old me.
 a true wordsmith AND master grower eh 