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[Growtogrow]

I hope I wasn't too anxious and jumping the gun a little bit on trying to get these clones cloned. "time seem to be moving faster "
I took the tops from some of the girls and started cloning.
So I dipped in cloneX. Each potential clone set in the Clone X for about 3 or 4 minutes.
I purchased a aeroponics cloner and I cleaned it real well. Then I let water run through it for a day. And then cleaned it again with a little bit of bleach water and then come back through and cleaned it again with the regular clean water.
I added 5 liters of bottled spring water to the reservoir and mixed in cloneX cloning solution 40 ml to the 5 liters of water. I then set the reservoir tank on top of the heating mat and turned on the pump then let it run overnight to warm the water tank and get the water good and aerated. " Oxygenated "

I started preparing the seedlings or I guess the small plants now. I start preparing them with the cloneX hormone spray about 4 or 5 days ago. Giving them a light mist once a day. Along with their regular misting everyday. The hormone mist is supposed to help the plant in rooting.
Also to help minimize stress on cloning day. I pre trimmed the hand leaves 1 to 2 days ahead of cloning day. Hopefully to help the plant heal before cloning.
( I don't know if it's necessary or not I've done it in the past it's helps maybe...maybe not...I don't know just seems logical that it would.)

Last night I dipped the cuttings.
I found 5 that I thought would be ready to try. 2 from the Red Hot Cookies , 1 Bruce banner#3, 1 Fire og kush.
I alcohol my scissors alcohol the razor blade. I made sure that my hands were alcohol and clean and I went to town surgically.

 

[Growtogrow]

Will be harvesting the 9 pound Swiss soon.

Turned off the lights and they'll be in the dark for 48 hours before harvesting.
The more blue light plant.

The plant with the more red light

Any input will be appreciated.

 

[Growtogrow]

The Clones are looking pretty good. Whatever I did it looks like it did it right. They're green healthy they're actually moving around. I don't think I've ever had my clones ever in fact I know I've never seen them move like these ones are moving

I hope that's a good thing. Usually my clones don't look healthy they look like they're going to die and sometimes they look like they're going to die and they live go figure

 

[Growtogrow]

Harvested the 9lb Swiss
The more Blue photon plant and the more Red photon plant.

There is definitely differences.Differences that can be Seen, that can be Measured, and can be Felt, and just maybe smell as well.

In this Simple Red Photons vs Blue Photons test

Re-cap...

The test.. To test 2 identical plants From the Same clone mother,
Be the same age, same soil, water, air, and flowered at the Same time. The same everything.... But Except for one major factor.

The light that they flowered underneath from flip to harvest.

Left light is a 41k 315 cmh, the light on the right is a 30k 315 cmh light.

Pic. 21 days after flipping 12/22/2020

This test wasn't designated
I didn't sit here and think about it at first But after I set up the plants for the flowering stage... I just noticed that I had 2 different lights in the wing reflectors... I thought this was a good opportunity To run a test like this. Since I had been looking into light and what it is to the plant for a long time... I thought this was a good as time as any to go ahead and do it.

So far this is what I know about what took place over this grow.

The 2-9lb Swiss clones were gave to me from the farmer I work for, in November 2020. They had been super cropped already. I super cropped them again and more, right after transplanting.
Pic 11/15/20

Transplanted from 3g fiber pot to 25g fiber. Then put in my custom organic soil mix 11/17/20.
Started flowering on 11/28/20

Started seeing flowering sign on 12/05/20. Start the countdown to harvest. ETOH 2/05/21

Along the growth time line.
The more Blue light plant only needed 2 good trimmings. 1 time the week after bud sign and 1 more time 4 weeks after first bud sign.

Blue light plant 1/17/21

The more Red light plant needed 2 heavy trimmings and 1 liter to get to harvest. The week of bud sign trim, 2 weeks after bud sign trim, and again a lite trim the first week of the new year. With a pluck here and a pluck there also along the way.
The Red light was throwing leaf's, branches and Bud sites every where all the time the whole grow.

More Red light plant 1/17/21

The harvest...

Pics the week and day of harvest

More Red light plant.

Trimming pile red light plant.
The red trim pile is significantly smaller then the blue trim pile. ( I'll post a side by side pic in the comparison post later on in a separate post. )

I weighed the trimmings from the red. The waste trim weight of 144 grams of leaf's and branches.

Final red dry weight up date when dry.

Stay tuned
I ve ran out of uploadable room for more pics in this post. Continued in next post for the more Blue light plant findings report.

 

[Growtogrow]

The more Blue light plant grew significantly well thou. It had deeper and darker colors than the Red. The hairs of Ginger were more vibrant and brighter green of the bud and bright green of the leaves were more bright and vibrant.
The overall health of the plant just looked to be better than the more Red Spectrum plant.
( I have answers for this, they'll come later on in this report )

More Blue light plant 12/25/20 before the last full trim. ( "less" leaf's and bud sites are noticeable )

Compared to the Red light plant

Red light plant 12/25/20. Before 2nd full trim. There is "More" leaf's branches, and Bud sites

Maybe that's a good thing or maybe it's not???. Thing's to ponder on

More Red photon plant bud's

Compared to
More Blue photon plant Bud pics

Lots of color in the more Blue photon plant.
Answer.
The reason we see more color in the Blue plant vs the Red Photon plant is because the UV is stronger with the 41k bulb. The plant is protecting itself from the UV so it throws out more color to protect itself from the UV.
The longer wave length of the 30k more Red photons. Tell's the plant
( that is being shaded ) So the plant will grow more leaves and longer branches bud sites and stretch to the sunlight to collect more light for photosynthesis.
Confirmed.

Waste trim from the more Blue Photon plant. There was a lot more waste trim at harvest compared to the Red.

(Red waste 144g vs Blue 165g)


Blue waste trim 165g

Red waste trim 144g

Dry yield flower weight. When available will be up dated.


So the differences are pretty clear. So now how to use this information?

Light Recipes are a emerging science.

Different light can influence flavors can influence THC production THCV production, all of the cannabinoids are affected by light. The amount of foliage, Bud sites, Branch production, Colors, are all influenced by light.
We could see the difference from the Red vs Blue photon. The Red had lots of Bud sites lots of lighter green foliage.
When the Blue had a little less Bud sites but had lots of vibrant colors, also less stage trimming.

( I don't know about the aromas or the flavors yet from my own science?)
" But will soon"
But ( "The science of dr. Bruce Bugbee says that these will all be enhanced due to the more Blue photons." )

Now it's just a matter of coming up with light recipes.

I'm pushing forward with every grow to try and come up with light recipes and document my work so it can be repeat over and over again to come up with conclusive results. And out of these results I can dictate a plant outcomes do to light recipes, along with other factors.

More to come in updated as information becomes available to me and I've concluded test that I've done to give you firsthand knowledge of what I've discovered.


I hope this is helpful tidbit of knowledge to help you tailor your grow more to your likings or Pacific yield or flavor profile.
Thanks for stopping by

 

[Growtogrow]

All the little ones got a new lights yesterday. I also moved every plant to grow them up longer faster. All of the plants are under more Red photon spectrum's. 30k n 31k cmh with 7 - 24" far red led light bars in the new light. Over the SSSC Pineapple poison and the Wild Thailand. Plus 4 small one's.

The bulk of the little ones are in the flower room under a 31k cmh growing long branches to clone.

Here we go from grow to grow

 

[Growtogrow]

Harvested the 9lb Swiss
The more Blue photon plant and the more Red photon plant.

There is definitely differences.Differences that can be Seen, that can be Measured, and can be Felt, and just maybe smell as well.

In this Simple Red Photons vs Blue Photons test

Re-cap...

The test.. To test 2 identical plants From the Same clone mother,
Be the same age, same soil, water, air, and flowered at the Same time. The same everything.... But Except for one major factor.

The light that they flowered underneath from flip to harvest.

Left light is a 41k 315 cmh, the light on the right is a 30k 315 cmh light.

Pic. 21 days after flipping 12/22/2020
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This test wasn't designated
I didn't sit here and think about it at first But after I set up the plants for the flowering stage... I just noticed that I had 2 different lights in the wing reflectors... I thought this was a good opportunity To run a test like this. Since I had been looking into light and what it is to the plant for a long time... I thought this was a good as time as any to go ahead and do it.

So far this is what I know about what took place over this grow.

The 2-9lb Swiss clones were gave to me from the farmer I work for, in November 2020. They had been super cropped already. I super cropped them again and more, right after transplanting.
Pic 11/15/20
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Transplanted from 3g fiber pot to 25g fiber. Then put in my custom organic soil mix 11/17/20.
Started flowering on 11/28/20View attachment 1283099
Started seeing flowering sign on 12/05/20. Start the countdown to harvest. ETOH 2/05/21
View attachment 1283100

Along the growth time line.
The more Blue light plant only needed 2 good trimmings. 1 time the week after bud sign and 1 more time 4 weeks after first bud sign.

Blue light plant 1/17/21View attachment 1283210

The more Red light plant needed 2 heavy trimmings and 1 liter to get to harvest. The week of bud sign trim, 2 weeks after bud sign trim, and again a lite trim the first week of the new year. With a pluck here and a pluck there also along the way.
The Red light was throwing leaf's, branches and Bud sites every where all the time the whole grow.

More Red light plant 1/17/21View attachment 1283211

The harvest...

Pics the week and day of harvest

More Red light plant.
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Trimming pile red light plant.
The red trim pile is significantly smaller then the blue trim pile. ( I'll post a side by side pic in the comparison post later on in a separate post. )
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I weighed the trimmings from the red. The waste trim weight of 144 grams of leaf's and branches.

Final red dry weight up date when dry.

Stay tuned
I ve ran out of uploadable room for more pics in this post. Continued in next post for the more Blue light plant findings report.

The More Red Light

Average Random more red light buds

Not real dense. But the flavor profile and the aroma profile appear to be in step and possibly even the same as far as intensity goes??? The Red did seem a bit more Citrus taste. And is the aroma of fruity old stale cheese?
Aaa yup..
But my nose isn't what it used to be and neither is my taste buds.

Red Dry final harvest weight
173 grams. The buzz of this strain is ok. I think it about the same as the other blue plant. But I did notice that it hit me faster (the red) than the blue light. I also think the color maybe just a bit less.

The more Blue light plant grew significantly well thou. It had deeper and darker colors than the Red. The hairs of Ginger were more vibrant and brighter green of the bud and bright green of the leaves were more bright and vibrant.
The overall health of the plant just looked to be better than the more Red Spectrum plant.
( I have answers for this, they'll come later on in this report )

More Blue light plant 12/25/20 before the last full trim. ( "less" leaf's and bud sites are noticeable )
View attachment 1283252
Compared to the Red light plant

Red light plant 12/25/20. Before 2nd full trim. There is "More" leaf's branches, and Bud sitesView attachment 1283253
Maybe that's a good thing or maybe it's not???. Thing's to ponder on

More Red photon plant bud'sView attachment 1283254View attachment 1283255View attachment 1283256View attachment 1283257View attachment 1283258

Compared to
More Blue photon plant Bud picsView attachment 1283259View attachment 1283263View attachment 1283260View attachment 1283261View attachment 1283262
Lots of color in the more Blue photon plant.
Answer.
The reason we see more color in the Blue plant vs the Red Photon plant is because the UV is stronger with the 41k bulb. The plant is protecting itself from the UV so it throws out more color to protect itself from the UV.
The longer wave length of the 30k more Red photons. Tell's the plant
( that is being shaded ) So the plant will grow more leaves and longer branches bud sites and stretch to the sunlight to collect more light for photosynthesis.
Confirmed.

Waste trim from the more Blue Photon plant. There was a lot more waste trim at harvest compared to the Red.

(Red waste 144g vs Blue 165g)


Blue waste trim 165gView attachment 1283265

Red waste trim 144gView attachment 1283270

Dry yield flower weight. When available will be up dated.


So the differences are pretty clear. So now how to use this information?

Light Recipes are a emerging science.

Different light can influence flavors can influence THC production THCV production, all of the cannabinoids are affected by light. The amount of foliage, Bud sites, Branch production, Colors, are all influenced by light.
We could see the difference from the Red vs Blue photon. The Red had lots of Bud sites lots of lighter green foliage.
When the Blue had a little less Bud sites but had lots of vibrant colors, also less stage trimming.

( I don't know about the aromas or the flavors yet from my own science?)
" But will soon"
But ( "The science of dr. Bruce Bugbee says that these will all be enhanced due to the more Blue photons." )

Now it's just a matter of coming up with light recipes.

I'm pushing forward with every grow to try and come up with light recipes and document my work so it can be repeat over and over again to come up with conclusive results. And out of these results I can dictate a plant outcomes do to light recipes, along with other factors.

More to come in updated as information becomes available to me and I've concluded test that I've done to give you firsthand knowledge of what I've discovered.


I hope this is helpful tidbit of knowledge to help you tailor your grow more to your likings or Pacific yield or flavor profile.
Thanks for stopping by

9#Swiss
The More Blue Light plant Final Dry Weight.

Random blue light buds on a paper plate

Blue final dry weight 146 grams.
The Blue is a bit denser, The Aromas were a bit strong but still the same citrus n old fruity stale cheese, the taste may have been a little bit different than the red a little bit but yet very similar. The color's a bit brighter.
The blue light buzz may have been a little heavier then the red.

But there was a big definite difference in dry weight.
Red 173g Blue 146g
Also a definite difference in the amount of trimming. The red was trimmed 2 times more then the blue.

I hope to perform more of these tests in the future as time and my budget allows me to.
It was a fun little test for just being off the hip and I learned quite a bit. My findings aren't conclusive but it still gives us all food for thought.

Growing this plant is still an Unwritten book there's still more work to be done.

I hope this was helpful

 

[Growtogrow]

The cloning is going good. About to put these young lady's in their new digs

1 or 2 more day's

 

[Growtogrow]

Did ok with the cloning. 3 out of 4 lived. The one that didn't live, I think died because the cloning collar was too tight on the stock and squeeze it to death. I think it would've made it.

So these 18

strains are under this 30k 315cmh wing light for 5 day's Then and now

1 watering 5 day's ago. If I water them they grow more
I Needed to slow them down a little bit so the first clones can be ready for transplanting. Then I can make a new batch of clones from all of these 18 to make 2 clones of each.
Then set all 18 to flowering.

Then there is still the 4 strains that had came late. They still need growing time to clone. Im slow watering them as well so hopefully they can be cloned after the 18 are finished cloning.

Off to the races

 

[Growtogrow]

I don't know if any of you have tried a Trim Bin when trimming?

If have not ?

You mite want to give one a go.
If you've got a bit to trim.
They're real comfortable to use. I like mine a lot. Made it easier to kick back in my favorite chair n go to work
And real easy to collect my keef

This pair Chikamaza a hand trimmers are the whip when it comes to trimming.

Easy to use and self cleaning(mostly) Wet trimming was a easy. Hardly ever had to clean them at all the whole 2 big fall harvest plants of nearly 4k of total plant material trimmed. Dry trimming was mostly good and easy. Not to much sticking , but only a little cleaning in a pound of trimming. I hate sticky trimmers
I bought these look a likes.

2 pair was the same as the others. And they work really well too.

I would like these better if they had the fingers loop. But I can throw down with these and trim up some bud real quick and good.

Scale 1 to 10 About 7.5