Grow Battle Constructive Feedback Thread

[Ripper]

to be fair this is really about the direction of AFN, not a single post ... i hope you can see this !

I do not see us going in a bad direction at all.

 

[Slowmo]

I do not see us going in a bad direction at all.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

I think that my biggest concern has been covered so I second the idea that the rules for any given competition be clearly and completely stated on the opening page of the competition thread. I really hate having to go back through a huge thread to weed out a rule or rule change or who I am supposed to tag for the updates. Put it all on one beginning page please. More than likely I am stoned the first time I read it; sorta remember it but don't remember where I read it. You get the idea.

Multi-leg competitions will always have timing issues for some growers. Perhaps a competitor could be given the first 7.5 months of the year to complete two grows on their own schedule both to be judged in the last two weeks of August. Maybe even two plants in the same grow? Then a head to head competition of the qualified growers to finish up and be judged as part of the Festivus Celebration.

I am strait right now so maybe some more ideas later!

 

[Mossy]

Being new I would find it helpful to have a clear link at the top to the rules that is specific to each battle, start a new thread at the start of the battle so all the chatter before the start is in the sign up anouncment thread and do more of them [emoji23]

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@Rollin_along There is one Master List of [HASHTAG]#growbattle[/HASHTAG] rules

https://www.autoflower.org/threads/master-rules-for-grow-battles.61496/

It is at the bottom of the stickies in the battle section.....we tried to keep it as Simple as possible.

 

[Mossy]

The grow battle threads get a little overloaded with chatter at times . Hard to see all the entries. Maybe a seperate thread for the official updates linked to the grow thread . Where you can post only updates . Would make it easier to keep track of entrants and entry updates.

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I'm going to Try a new plan @islandgrower ....I'm going to ask for an instructional update every week with no Chatter.
You know the kind of thing..weeks 7..she looks like this..I added flower ferts this week at this rate...then I can pick Out simple tutorials for new growers to follow...by rounding up the weekly no chatter posts.

For the majority of our growers it is the constant chat and banter that Makes the Battles.....but I hear you on them being Too Busy to catch up with..especially if you are following a few.

If you can sign in on the weekend and simply check the non chatter updates from each competitor it should make your navigation easier...

I hope in near future all winners will get prizes... i know its chaotic, but vendors sleeping?


In other way i absolutely love battles!!! Im very competative person and this is only way to improve my growing skills Thanks to AFN and to all growers for opportunity!

Last year was our very First year with the Battles format and we have Learned a lot from it.
@Belivitez There was Only 1 battle planned to Test it through in 2017..FB and you know how that one ended.....so we will never get past the Human fail factor..but we Hope we have rules and reg's in that will make it much better in 2018.

We should stagger the contests instead of 2 legs do 4 with half the comps for ex..

Instead of 10 comps in Jan and 10 in may do
5 in January, 5 in April, 5 in July 5. In Oct

That way we have time to plan space within our grows

Other that that I love the comps

We cannot with the [HASHTAG]#groweroftheyearbattles[/HASHTAG] coz we don't have the time scale to fit the qualifying legs in..and we cannot run into 2019 for 2018 comps

We have Heavily advertised for a year the leg start times for 2018 to give the members time to co-ordinate spaces in their grow rooms. [HASHTAG]#savespaceinyourgrowroom[/HASHTAG]

Saying that..we Will have new seed vendors join up that want Battles done and they will Not always join in January..so there will probably be some modfications to fit them in.....and..Don't Forget....Anyone can organise their own Battle/Challenge.

Growbattles started with 1 to 1 challenges....anyone can Battle with a Friend.

If you raise a Battle with over 10 Starters we will see if we can attract some Sponsored seed prizes for your Battle...

 

[Mossy]

What do you like about the grow battles? lively discussion, WITH VENDOR particicpation

Patience grass-hopper.... @jingo ..2017 was our Test year..and we were only supposed to be running the FB Battles as a test...so we ran it to see how it went with no interaction from them.
This year we are looking for vendor participation....support..at the very least they should be announcing the Winners and prizes in there...so..Work in progress.

What do you NOT like about the grow battles? many are just dead, no interest

Yup.the smaller ones with less support...some of them drop down to almost grow diary view stats.....we are Looking at it..with vendor support..spot parties etc..see what we can do in 2018...what works Best..

Thing is..we don't have enough staff support to cover all of them...so we may have to look a [HASHTAG]#memberpower[/HASHTAG] driving the quiet ones.

We only have 10 battle going..we have approx 40 vendors on site..if they all asked for a battle..we would be overwhelmed...and would need to rely on [HASHTAG]#memberpower[/HASHTAG] to Support them.

[HASHTAG]#asknotwhatafncandoforyoubutwhatYoucandoforafn[/HASHTAG] we Need you to even Try to be successful with them and expand them.

Is there anything we could improve upon?less battles i think, do ANYTHING to encourage individual journals

You have free Option @jingo coz you are the kind of grower that Naturally attracts members to your grow thread.
Unfortunately most people don't...and we see the poor noob sitting in a grow diary..how ever good or bad..talking to themselves.

It is the least to say disheartening for them...because they don't know that the only way to get anyone to visit an individual grow diary is to go out and visit other diaries and make Friends who want to Visit you.

Setting them up in a battle gives the the opportunity to be in a mass grow and make Friends..who will be willing to participate when they do go for individual grows.

Make Friends First..before you attempt an individual diary...the Battles give them that chance [HASHTAG]#growcannabislivewithfriends[/HASHTAG]

Is there anything we should look into changing? The changes are excessive already, especially if your a medical user with a complicated life, we need safety, comfort, companionship not excessive change

Are the rules clear and concise?this week yes, next week who knows, i really cant keep up

Should settle down 2018 ..we had to be reactive 2017.
Nobody has done Battles before...didn't know if it would work..so we were working off the top of our heads

[HASHTAG]#reacttothestats[/HASHTAG]

Imagine putting 40 competitive growers together in a Battle..any other site you would get past the first week without it being a blood bath...so we weren't even sure if we could pull it off.....'til we Tried it.

 

[Mossy]

These communal grow battles are great as it brings some of the lesser known guys forward and engaging the community, which at the end of the day what it's all about...

You are Right @WalterW ..make Friends...and Learn to Grow.
Every Battle has 10-60 competitive growers in that are willing to teach You as they grow..the Best growers on AFN..using their Best moves to Win the Grower of the Year title and they'll teach you as you go along...you might not Win the Battle..although @Ash-a-Ton did...but you are Learning to grow..Live..from the Best growers on AFN..

Research and drive yourself nuts with over information that scares you off before you start..or just follow along and copy your favourite grower for guaranteed good result..if you simply Watch and Listen..

 

[Mossy]

I think that my biggest concern has been covered so I second the idea that the rules for any given competition be clearly and completely stated on the opening page of the competition thread. I really hate having to go back through a huge thread to weed out a rule or rule change or who I am supposed to tag for the updates. Put it all on one beginning page please. More than likely I am stoned the first time I read it; sorta remember it but don't remember where I read it. You get the idea.

The first post carrying ALL information is being worked on....it is the easiest way for you and us..

Multi-leg competitions will always have timing issues for some growers. Perhaps a competitor could be given the first 7.5 months of the year to complete two grows on their own schedule both to be judged in the last two weeks of August. Maybe even two plants in the same grow? Then a head to head competition of the qualified growers to finish up and be judged as part of the Festivus Celebration.

I am strait right now so maybe some more ideas later!

We can't..you can do what you like if you are running it.....

Another reason we need to be run the Battles in selected legs is to co-ordinate all the polls..badges..polls..ranks..titles..prizes...points.

It is a Massive co-ordination job for us...and I can't have them coming in at all different dates..or.they Will get forgotten in the rush.

We Learned that last year...people..battles and prizes go tlost.

We finish the thread..shut it..co-ordinate the prizes..ranks..prizes..points in everyone of the battles..we Know we have everyone covered.

It is a Massive work load for all the staff involved..I need it consistant.....to Try to get it Right.

2017..we had 1 full Grower of the year Battle..2018..we have 10 up to now...
2019 if it went at the same rate would be 100..

I need the Finish date consistancy to cover it.

But..that is what Staff can cover... [HASHTAG]#memberpower[/HASHTAG] says You can set up whatever you are prepared to run...

 

[Dabber]

It is the least to say disheartening for them...because they don't know that the only way to get anyone to visit an individual grow diary is to go out and visit other diaries and make Friends who want to Visit you.

Live stoners is a great way to drive traffic to a new growers journals this what I did

Make Friends First..before you attempt an individual diary...the Battles give them that chance

Again Live stoners, IMO the best place on the site.

Battles well I'm a newbie and the main reason for joining was to learn and make friends with fellow growers.
Maybe a picture only thread say like Mephisto Photo Battle Room set where only photos and likes are allowed no comments and then a battle discussion room where the growers from all battles go to share whats going with the grows and AFN fellow members can also interact and this way we would have all the battle chatter in 1 thread and call it Battle room discussion thread sorta like live stoners . If I were to see a great looking or even a jacked up plant in the photo room I would be inclined to go over to the battle discussion room to see what was going on with that plant and what the grower was doing or not doing

Hey I'm and on a rant so I'll stop it here sorry @Mossy

 

[Mossy]

Live stoners is a great way to drive traffic to a new growers journals this what I did

Again Live stoners, IMO the best place on the site.

Both @Dabber ...we are Directing New Intros into LS too.....you'll see every Intro thread has at least one LS link and an Invitation to join in..

No @Dabber ..no Sorries..we Believe the members may have Much better Ideas than us..that is why we ask..

but if something has to be done a certain way for a reason I'd rather say Why...then we all Know....