Giving self-pollination a try with AKR - Journal

[BillyMadison]

I deleted my posts because cannabis growers are the most stubborn people when they believe things. Same as the ones who think clones of clones cause genetic degrading. That's fine. Not going to argue about it anymore, which is why I deleted my posts. Not so you can continue to get ruder and ruder in your responses. I didn't disrespect you so don't disrespect me.



Also, Yes, yes that post is about selecting for the gene vs genetic deformation.




There is a reason it's worked to produce 100% Females for so many people including HighLowGrow on RIU with an Akr actually. Same as the plant this topic is about.

He found a seed or two in one of his buds - idk how accurate all that info is, take it with a grain of salt.

Also, Settle down bro man.

If you feel like coming on these forums make sure to be polite and respect your elders. Ie. People who have more experience then you, older then you, cranky old farts, whoever it is.... :thumbs:

You need some heavy indica my friend. Settle down. Yoda buds posted a great book. Go buy Some of Jorge Cervantes stuff like his bible and dvd's. Seemorebuds has a lot of good stuff out there. Growing chronic with Mr.Green is interesting (I think that's what it was called). High Times has a lot of great info (I enjoy watching Vol 1 $ 2 of read set grow!)....I watch and read stuff over and over again, I learn something new every-time even after 10 years.., I really enjoy nico escondido's work and insight.

https://www.icmag.com/strains/Nirvana/Bubblicious/index.html

I did a smoke report here (they archived it from OG) on Nirvana's bubblelicious 10 years ago when I was on overgrow -(name on overgrow was MaliciousMarijuana - making a mockery of those who discredited it's medical values) ...I have been around for some time and I can tell you the Mods and Members here are top notch.

Instead of polluting the threads go read some info and educate yourself, grow some, learn some, come back with some respect.

 

[EverythingsHazy]

He found a seed or two in one of his buds - idk how accurate all that info is, take it with a grain of salt.

Also, Settle down bro man.

If you feel like coming on these forums make sure to be polite and respect your elders. Ie. People who have more experience then you, older then you, cranky old farts, whoever it is.... :thumbs:

You need some heavy indica my friend. Settle down. Yoda buds posted a great book. Go buy Some of Jorge Cervantes stuff like his bible and dvd's. Seemorebuds has a lot of good stuff out there. Growing chronic with Mr.Green is interesting (I think that's what it was called). High Times has a lot of great info (I enjoy watching Vol 1 $ 2 of read set grow!)....I watch and read stuff over and over again, I learn something new every-time even after 10 years.., I really enjoy nico escondido's work and insight.

https://www.icmag.com/strains/Nirvana/Bubblicious/index.html

I did a smoke report here (they archived it from OG) on Nirvana's bubblelicious 10 years ago when I was on overgrow -(name on overgrow was MaliciousMarijuana - making a mockery of those who discredited it's medical values) ...I have been around for some time and I can tell you the Mods and Members here are top notch.

Instead of polluting the threads go read some info and educate yourself, grow some, learn some, come back with some respect.

Nothing rude about telling a mod not to be disrespectful.
I did read and I have been growing plants for years including tissue culture of plants much more difficult and intricate to work with than cannabis. New to cannabis but not to plants. I respect everyone who respects me. Simple. It's a two way street. I wasn't disrespectful to anyone.
In fact deleting my comments so people wouldn't get sensitive but to call me out is just disrespectful did how old you are. And I read that book. Doesn't say selling causes hermits. It may even say that selling can be used to help stabilize a strain actually if I recall correctly.

That was the entire point of me deleting my posts. But mods are just here to stop spam not censor information discussion. What's polluting is getti stuck on old ways and then baiting an annoyed response from me. Excuse me for trying to further my knowledge instead of being content with "cuz it gets confused" as a "scientific" answer.


That said, some heavy indica would always be nice.
Anyway. I'm done in this thread. Good luck.

 

[evol]

Ok then scientifically speaking...

Hermaphroditism is 100% natural in flowering plants and it's an actual survival adaptation.

Cannabis is a very simple but yet very complex organism. It has many adaptational abilities that help it ensure that it's genetics will prevail, in this aspect it is very simple and similar to all other dioecious plants. The Cannabis plant is a dioecious annual angiosperm. Also known as an annual flowering plant that has either male or female sex parts. Flowering plants have long been the study of amazing survival phenomena. There are many different types of flowering plants most of which are classified into two categories, Bisexual or Unisexual. Almost all Bisexual plants are literally natural Hermaphrodites or Monoclinous. Once classified as either Bisexual or Unisexual there are many other classifications that more specifically describes the sexual situations and genetic tendancies of the species itsself.

Cannabis falls into the Unisexual category. But Cannabis is actually very unique and quite complex in the sexual aspect of plant life. Cannabis is a Dioecious species. However, It also falls into the Subdioecious family. Subdioecious is a tendency in some dioecious plants to produce monoecious variants. The plant in particular would have to normally produce male or female plants but some are hermaphroditic, with female plants producing some male or hermaphroditic flowers or vice versa. The condition is thought to represent a transition between hermaphroditism and dioecy.

Hermaphroditism is a genetic adaptation present in almost all flowering plant life. With regard to Cannabis this is even more evident as every single cannabis plant sustains the ability to turn hermaphroditic in its genes. Regardless of the male/female genetic material inside the seed




So the stress from a half reversed and self pollinated autoflower can cause its offspring to have hermie traits.
Or to put it simply.. cuz it gets confused lol.



I hope nothing I said was taken offensively I am only here to help. If any of us seem short with you its only because this same question/debate pops up every few month. It gets redundant..

 

[Eyes on Fire]

I gots me a query.. I picked up the Cannabis Breeders Bible many maany weeks ago and just have not gotten around to reading much of it yet to be honest. Does anyone know if they cover this topic?Or even reversing and CS sprays? Id look ,but to be honest my MS is kinda kickin and my eyes feel like they have splinters in them and my right eye is twitching something awful.Thanks guys.

It is easier to look straight ahead at a screen instead of looking at a book sometimes , suuuucks. LOL!"AFN smoke out" :gthumb:

 

[EverythingsHazy]

Ok then scientifically speaking...

Hermaphroditism is 100% natural in flowering plants and it's an actual survival adaptation.

Cannabis is a very simple but yet very complex organism. It has many adaptational abilities that help it ensure that it's genetics will prevail, in this aspect it is very simple and similar to all other dioecious plants. The Cannabis plant is a dioecious annual angiosperm. Also known as an annual flowering plant that has either male or female sex parts. Flowering plants have long been the study of amazing survival phenomena. There are many different types of flowering plants most of which are classified into two categories, Bisexual or Unisexual. Almost all Bisexual plants are literally natural Hermaphrodites or Monoclinous. Once classified as either Bisexual or Unisexual there are many other classifications that more specifically describes the sexual situations and genetic tendancies of the species itsself.

Cannabis falls into the Unisexual category. But Cannabis is actually very unique and quite complex in the sexual aspect of plant life. Cannabis is a Dioecious species. However, It also falls into the Subdioecious family. Subdioecious is a tendency in some dioecious plants to produce monoecious variants. The plant in particular would have to normally produce male or female plants but some are hermaphroditic, with female plants producing some male or hermaphroditic flowers or vice versa. The condition is thought to represent a transition between hermaphroditism and dioecy.

Hermaphroditism is a genetic adaptation present in almost all flowering plant life. With regard to Cannabis this is even more evident as every single cannabis plant sustains the ability to turn hermaphroditic in its genes. Regardless of the male/female genetic material inside the seed




So the stress from a half reversed and self pollinated autoflower can cause its offspring to have hermie traits.
Or to put it simply.. cuz it gets confused lol.



I hope nothing I said was taken offensively I am only here to help. If any of us seem short with you its only because this same question/debate pops up every few month. It gets redundant..

Lol. No hard feelings man just here to learn and share the cannabis experience with everyone.

 

[BillyMadison]

Nothing rude about telling a mod not to be disrespectful. Woops


I did read and I have been growing plants for years including tissue culture of plants much more difficult and intricate to work with than cannabis. New to cannabis but not to plants. I respect everyone who respects me. Simple. It's a two way street. I wasn't disrespectful to anyone.
In fact deleting my comments so people wouldn't get sensitive but to call me out is just disrespectful did how old you are. And I read that book. Doesn't say selling causes hermits. It may even say that selling can be used to help stabilize a strain actually if I recall correctly.

That was the entire point of me deleting my posts. But mods are just here to stop spam not censor information discussion. What's polluting is getti stuck on old ways and then baiting an annoyed response from me. Excuse me for trying to further my knowledge instead of being content with "cuz it gets confused" as a "scientific" answer.


That said, some heavy indica would always be nice.
Anyway. I'm done in this thread. Good luck.

You sound pretty defensive

It seems as if you have a interest in botany which is great. You work with things that are more intricate than cannabis ? :thumbs:

Are you really asking me how old I am? Have a nice day.

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I gots me a query.. I picked up the Cannabis Breeders Bible many maany weeks ago and just have not gotten around to reading much of it yet to be honest. Does anyone know if they cover this topic?Or even reversing and CS sprays? Id look ,but to be honest my MS is kinda kickin and my eyes feel like they have splinters in them and my right eye is twitching something awful.Thanks guys.

It is easier to look straight ahead at a screen instead of looking at a book sometimes , suuuucks. LOL!"AFN smoke out" :gthumb:

The bible and jorge's first dvd are almost identical. If I can remember correctly, the intro to the dvd is word for word out of the book.

The bible pretty much covers all the basics and some advanced techniques. It focuses more on creating a stable environment and the basics imo...explains the science behind growing on a new grower level.

I'll have to look into it again but I don't remember any mutagen discussion in detail, maybe a brief statement?

 

[yodabuds]

I gots me a query.. I picked up the Cannabis Breeders Bible many maany weeks ago and just have not gotten around to reading much of it yet to be honest. Does anyone know if they cover this topic?Or even reversing and CS sprays? Id look ,but to be honest my MS is kinda kickin and my eyes feel like they have splinters in them and my right eye is twitching something awful.Thanks guys.

It is easier to look straight ahead at a screen instead of looking at a book sometimes , suuuucks. LOL!"AFN smoke out" :gthumb:

eof call your NEURO NOW! I've had optic neuritist four times with complete vision loss if I had went to the dr at first sign of trouble (just what you described) I could've begun the steroid sooner and not have damaged my optic nerve as much, sending you a big :karma Cloud: now call that doc ASAP!


ps to the OP sorry for the hijack just had to post for EoF

Now back on topic

 

[BillyMadison]

Ok then scientifically speaking...

Hermaphroditism is 100% natural in flowering plants and it's an actual survival adaptation.

Cannabis is a very simple but yet very complex organism. It has many adaptational abilities that help it ensure that it's genetics will prevail, in this aspect it is very simple and similar to all other dioecious plants. The Cannabis plant is a dioecious annual angiosperm. Also known as an annual flowering plant that has either male or female sex parts. Flowering plants have long been the study of amazing survival phenomena. There are many different types of flowering plants most of which are classified into two categories, Bisexual or Unisexual. Almost all Bisexual plants are literally natural Hermaphrodites or Monoclinous. Once classified as either Bisexual or Unisexual there are many other classifications that more specifically describes the sexual situations and genetic tendancies of the species itsself.

Cannabis falls into the Unisexual category. But Cannabis is actually very unique and quite complex in the sexual aspect of plant life. Cannabis is a Dioecious species. However, It also falls into the Subdioecious family. Subdioecious is a tendency in some dioecious plants to produce monoecious variants. The plant in particular would have to normally produce male or female plants but some are hermaphroditic, with female plants producing some male or hermaphroditic flowers or vice versa. The condition is thought to represent a transition between hermaphroditism and dioecy.

Hermaphroditism is a genetic adaptation present in almost all flowering plant life. With regard to Cannabis this is even more evident as every single cannabis plant sustains the ability to turn hermaphroditic in its genes. Regardless of the male/female genetic material inside the seed




So the stress from a half reversed and self pollinated autoflower can cause its offspring to have hermie traits.
Or to put it simply.. cuz it gets confused lol.



I hope nothing I said was taken offensively I am only here to help. If any of us seem short with you its only because this same question/debate pops up every few month. It gets redundant..

You have books and information imbedded in your brain my friend

I am focusing on the science of a mutagen. Also focusing on collecting and distributing pollen.

To Quote R.C. Clarke

"Pollination begins with dehiscence (release of pollen) from staminate flowers.Millions of pollen grains float through the air on light breezes, and many land on the stigmatic surfaces of nearby pistillate plants. If the pistil is ripe, the pollen grain will germinate and send out a long pollen tube much as a seed pushes out a root. The tube contains a haploid (in) generative nucleus and grows downward toward the ovule at the base of the pistils. When the pollen tube reaches the ovule, the staminate haploid nucleus fuses with the pistillate haploid nucleus and the diploid condition is restored. Germination of the pollen grain occurs 15 to 20 minutes after contact with the stigmatic surface (pistil); fertilization may take up to two days in cooler temperatures. Soon after fertilization, the pistils wither away as the ovule and surrounding calyx begin to swell. If the plant is properly watered, seed will form and sexual reproduction is complete. It is crucial that no part of the cycle be interrupted or viable seed will not form. If the pollen is subjected to extremes of temperature, humidity, or moisture, it will fail to germinate, the pollen tube will die prior to fertilization, or the embryo will be unable to develop into a mature seed. Techniques for successful pollination have been designed with all these criteria in mind


[video=youtube;obeO0Aq5Y4I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obeO0Aq5Y4I[/video]

Check out subcool shake that male and the PLOOM of pollen go all over the room! Love it!!

On a side note - I think Evol might be Robert Conell...lol j/k

Thank you Evol and b0b for helping out.

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I gots me a query.. I picked up the Cannabis Breeders Bible many maany weeks ago and just have not gotten around to reading much of it yet to be honest. Does anyone know if they cover this topic?Or even reversing and CS sprays? Id look ,but to be honest my MS is kinda kickin and my eyes feel like they have splinters in them and my right eye is twitching something awful.Thanks guys.

It is easier to look straight ahead at a screen instead of looking at a book sometimes , suuuucks. LOL!"AFN smoke out" :gthumb:

eof call your NEURO NOW! I've had optic neuritist four times with complete vision loss if I had went to the dr at first sign of trouble (just what you described) I could've begun the steroid sooner and not have damaged my optic nerve as much, sending you a big :karma Cloud: now call that doc ASAP!


ps to the OP sorry for the hijack just had to post for EoF

Now back on topic

EyesOnFire - Please go see the DR. I Can see what your name means. Sorry my friend - Hope you get proper treatment and relief.

 

[Epic Genetics]

ehazy , the reason you think i am disrespectful is due to myself and others speaking from many years of experience (not just basic growing experience either) and your refusal to except and listen to the advice given , as well as beating a dead horse , like evol said , you are asking and commenting on things that have been discussed already , many , many times

if you wish to call me disrespectful , id like to call you passive aggressive , antagonistic as well as "disrespectful"

you said you are done in this thread , thats great , im humming and hawing about deleting a lot of posts and cleaning the thread , there is however some useful info mixed in a lot of posts/replies though so that why im undesided

sorry B M , on with the show

peace

 

[Eyes on Fire]

Oh LMFAo My bad dude.not the growers Bible..Is that what I wrote?..LOL oops.sorry. I ment the Breeders Bible by Greg Green. Ya I gave the growers Bible away to a starter grower some many months ago to help her out.Excellent book imo though. Hey thanks Billy.

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sorry yoda bro..I dont have any doctor short of the E.R. no insurance so thats not resally an option(way too many visits already n cant pay bills) short of kissing the deck again.lthanks for the tip though brother.