Indoor First time Home Box Grow. Need some advice.

[Nelson]

I use a squirrel cage fan in my bubbly tank roofs. It is wicked loud but it changes the air in my grow room every minute or so and does help a lot with the cooling. In my other room I use a couple of those whisper fans like you were talking about. They work well also and they are much quieter. Strangely enough the thing that is the loudent in the diaphram air pump that puches the air into the tank and makes the bubbles. I can hear that running all the way upstairs. I like the fact that one of you used dB rating. He must have a dB meter how a former sound man I'm guessing. Besides me he is the only one I have ever spoken to who has one. For all of you who don't know what 28 dB is - It is a quiet voice talking.

He has a great idea. A dB rating on these fans and pumps would be a great spec to give in the selling info of these products.

 

[Muddy]

I doubt a PC fan will be strong enough to pull air through a carbon filter, but I've never tried that, so can't say for certain. I would suggest a 4" in line "can" style fan, running on a variable speed controller. While they can be loud when running at full speed, you won't need to do that. Running on low speed it won't be very loud and will work well with either a T5 or LED setup. With HPS you would need to run it at a higher speed and it would then be louder.

When it comes to setting up a proper grow box, cheap is not always the way to go. If you do it right the first time you will spend less money in the long run replacing components that aren't up to the job.

I would suggest you continue to use this thread while you build your box. When you are ready to start your grow, then open a new thread to talk about it.

 

[NewHope]

I start to build it, but a stoppet. a get the materials, a start to sizeing, but have another idea to develop thge box!in the beggining of the topick i told a have small space.
plan1:
plan2:

i save maybe 15 cm high , and maybe 20 cm wide!!!
but i need to reconfig my plans. tomorrow is my day

 

[AndyBotwin]

Good find! Any extra height is always good, and the space you gain is just about big enough to fit a 4" carbon filter into.

I start to build it, but a stoppet. a get the materials, a start to sizeing, but have another idea to develop thge box!in the beggining of the topick i told a have small space.
plan1: View attachment 20769
plan2: View attachment 20770

i save maybe 15 cm high , and maybe 20 cm wide!!!
but i need to reconfig my plans. tomorrow is my day

 

[Nelson]

I got two whisper fans on my 5 micron pollen filter in my honeymoon suite (breeding room) one pushes the air through and the other mounted on the other end sucks the air out. They work very well and the air really moves through the filter. Unlike Muddy I tend to be run by my inherent cheapness. Not everything sucks that I design but some does and I just end up changing it further down the line. I am happy with my pollen filter and two 6 inch whisper fans. I haven't had any unwanted pregnancies with the other plants and the two fans keep a negative pressure in the honeymoon suite to keep the pollen in. I think the two fans are a little bigger than computer fans but they were definately used fans that cooled electronic equipment. When I build the filter I couldn't find anyone who really knew how big a single pollin was. I am happy to report that I still don't know how big they are but they are bigger than 5 microns.

 

[NewHope]

Huhhh... I think i got it. resize, recalculate. i make a quick skicc from the finaly plan.( sry, 100X125X128 is the correct i write it wrong on the pics top)

It just a quick skicc, of course have maybe 2-3 little fan to inside.

I think I use:
8 X T5 HO 54W G5 230V 4000K 5100 lm 16mmX1149mm COOLWHITE roughly 4 euro/bulb
16 X Socket T5 IP67 moisture-free swing ruoghtly 2euro/socket
3-4 X Aqua Medic T5 Sunbeam refl. 54 W reflektor 13.5 euro/ reflektor

total: 105 euro
the light will be moveable. up and down.

Vent:
As I write i find a nice combo in a shop:
Duct fan 125 VKOk 39 dBA : 185 m3/h 125mm 34 euro. + carbon filter 125 mm / 25 cm; 100 m3 45 euro
2 X 12 PC fan take in the air two other side of the box.
2-3 12PC vent circulates / or 2-3 bigger power little fan. (already have pc fans, no cost)
total: 80 euro

 

[ripster]

Sounds like you got it under control NH, and the members are helping you out. Good team work guys :clap:

NH, if ya need anything else, pm me and well get ya taken care of.

 

[NewHope]

ty guys really. i try to search a lot of informations (google is my girlfrend), but the reading cant replace experience. thats why this forum great!! I cant talk about these topick with my environment. About these box dont know anybody (encluding my close frends. if it work i will suprise them ). Only one of my best frend know about it, who help me made the box, and suppoert me with some money.... Thats why i cant ask anybody. In my country growners hunted like witches in the middle ages :S :S :S but i dont realy care! i keep the rules!!! i keep it in secret! You are guys my Saviour!!

I write it in the 1st post i choose some kind of seeds, but i uncertain a little. is there something i cant understand.
i see many types, and many pictures, but the same type looking absolut else.
for example:
northern light v1: http://www.whitewidowseeds.com/images/strains/montana-blues.jpg
northern light v2: http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/monkeybonebongos/P1060553.jpg

the same kind, but looks very different. the v1 is short , have many bud, the v2 is have a lots of bush leaves.
and many type i see this difference. why is it happened? at once she got the ideal circumstance, and the second not?
couse i dont have many space, and we were here to make buds not leaves :S or like 2 flower is the same, but at the 1st pics they just cut the leaves?
its confuseing me (sry i told i'm absolutly beginner, never see plants in live). we want to rent the seeds (maybe in the next week) ,but dont know whitch seed i need. i pick 3-5 kind that i choose lovely, but someone has any experience with it pls share with me.
-snowrider
-russian rocket fuel
-auto assasin
-northern lights
-white russian
-white dwarf

i think i make it in 6L (18*18*25) tile. The lamp maybe sequester 15 cm. 25+15=40
My top high is 128, and my lovest high is 110.
So I have 75-90cm for the plant. couse i have very short place, i need some kind whitch dont grow higher than 90cm, whitch grow mutch more tall than wide and not at last have a good yield.

 

[Muddy]

What you are seeing in those two pictures are two plants at different stages of growth, which is why they look so different. The first one is almost finished, so it has the big bud on it. The second one is young and has not started to produce any buds yet. Like any flowering plant, marijuana will go through a period of vegetative growth before it starts producing flowers. With auto flowering plants the flowers won't start until about week 4. They will of course be very small at that time. The plant will continue to grow tall and make more leaves for a couple more weeks with not much growth in the flowers. Then they will stop making more leaves and all the energy will go to the flowers and they will start to get big. Toward the end, at about 8 or 9 weeks, the big leaves, called fan leaves, will start to turn yellow and die off. By the time the plant is finished they will all be gone and you will have your buds with only some small leaves left, like in the first picture. Take a look at some of the grow journals here and you will see pictures that show the whole life cycle of the plants.

I have grown 4 of the 6 plants you mentioned. All are very good. The Snowryder and White Russian are a little smaller than the Russian Rocket Fuel and Auto Assassin. Given the larger size of your redesigned grow box, you should be able to fit about 9 plants in it.

Also glad to see that you are getting the carbon filter. I think you will be very glad that you did.

 

[NewHope]

thank you man, i think its clear right now. yes i think too try it with 6-9 plants. i'm realy visual type, if the box stand i will decide it. more plants is better i think, couse if someone die, our have problem, not all i have 3 plats finished or 6 (3/6 , 6/9)
the kind is really hard choice they are all looks like beautiful

i assort it again...
the pick will bee:
-auto assasin
-white russian
--easyrider

i want 2X5 fem. from 2 kind.