Indoor First time Home Box Grow. Need some advice.

[Muddy]

Looking good NH. One question, did you hinge the door on the bottom, it looks that way in the pictures? If so, you might want to change the hinge to the side. You will need to kneel in front of the box to water and care for the plants and if you're kneeling on the door it will put a lot of stress on your hinges.

 

[NewHope]

I think about this question too but i think i resolved the problem. In the beginning of the topick I write i have a small place. I draw it in paint
here it is: (dont need to search)

Yes the hinge in the bottom of the box.
reasons: If you ara looking the pics you can see the door is on the right side (in the pics). The wall is sloping up to down. If i put the hinge in the side i will cant open the door, couse the wall get in the way. If the hinge in the bottom i can open the box completly. And I made the box in the way: material thicknesses is the same size everywhere. (1.8 cm) If i open the door in the max, the door and the floor of the box 180° to the horizontal. If i step on it, the hinge does not hold my weight, because its absoulutly fit to the ground. They are parallel each other.

 

[NewHope]

Today we start to build the box in the original location.
it will still much work, but i think we do it well.
There is a pics right now:

sry about the pics, we have no normal camera jet.

 

[ripster]

Nice, keep building, she'll be magnificent when your done

 

[NewHope]

And back to the beggining....
Light....
When I think I understand the topick, and try to pick my CFL light what I need I confused again (really hard).
I spend many hours to search AF CFL light, but I cant fint a satisfactory answer.
I find mayn rewievs about AF CFL lighting. As I see we can group these in 2 way:
1. Use CFL veg. bulbs (6500K) in the 2-3 week, and after change the light to HPS or CHM, and use this for flo (2700K) (40% use this way)
2. Use CFL for veg. and for flo. Just change the bulbs. In the veg they use 6500K and the flo 2700K CFL light. (in 60%use this way)
I heard mix spectrum is not good, but many rewiev says they have agood experience with it. (also use warmwhite(2700K) and daywhite (6500K).

I could not find anywhere a grow what use the same type of bulbs from seed to harvest.
Whitch type are you useing guys? I'm really dont find the answer...
In this topick spoken many times, it can happened to use the same bulbs from seed to harvest, BUT WHITCH TYPE????
As I see fluorescent T5 bulbs can buy in 3 types.
-daylight (6500K)
-coolwhite (4000K)
-warmwhite (2700K-3200K)

I can buy product like this:




(just find one man, who say autos can grow to seed to harvest with coolwhite)

I decide I try it with CFL tech.
As I see right now, if nobody can't tell my what type of bulbs I need i will do this:
Need a set for the veg. (6500K) and need another set to flo. (2700K).
I need to change the bulbs in the 2-3 week, our try to use mixed the bulbs...
The light maybe the most expensive part of my box and my budget is very low... :S
I dont want to buy a wrong type set, whitch I can trow out with the garbage, cause its not what I need, and doest't working... :S :S :S

I find may CFL bulbs, in the town, but I dare not buy it...
Pls help me fix these thing!!!!!

 

[Jackal]

IMO if your new to growing, I would just make things easy and go with 6500k for veg and 2700k-2900k for bloom. If you are getting a T5 panel after a grow or so you can experiment mixing those 2 spectrums without needing any 4000k bulbs.

 

[NewHope]

Ok! Thank you!
As I see no option to grow the plans with one set bulbs. need to change it for the veg. and the flo.
I waiting for one more reply from an autogrowner. He told me he is growing with one set from seed to harvest.
The price will be more expensive than i calculate first, but if its the price for a successful growing i will do it in this way!
At first i will grow 4 plants. Maybe I try to save some money, to use not 8 just 2 veg bulbs for the veg. , and just in the flo i use 8X54W fl. bulbs, with a little transition.
As i see no way to do it under 200 dollar :S

 

[ripster]

This is the only bulb you'll need if ya go with the T5 lighting....

Seed to harvest. I sware....All I use...

 

[NewHope]

I think this is sick my Man!!!!!!!!
I see in your albums what you can do with this bulbs. This is amazing!!! If they are get only these 54W T5 HO 6500K (and I dont think your hobby is told beginners things what isnt't true ) and they are looking beutifull like in your albumb (big , helty, good yielded), HOW THIS THING CAN HAPPENED???????????!!!!!!???????? (I mean how can bee a hight K (6500K) bulb can force to flowering anything???)
Its completly contradict everything what I heard and read before. I try to think in logically.
Plant is a live organism like human body. When the human grow the body need minerals (example Ca, and P). How can the body evolve in healty, if It get just 1 mineral from the several what it need?
Its a realy poor example, but I think it show the question essence.
I'm really dont understand how this thing happened. Thes plants are AF. They lifetime is 8-10 week, which they flowering 6-7 week!!! How this thing happened, how they are satisfied with the 6500K light if they in there 65-75°% time spend with flowering??
In AFN there is anopther new guy like me, have the same problem. He want to make his own with CFL. Many advanced user say him, he need to buy 2 set. 1 for the flo. and 1 for the veg. Just say need to mix the spectrums gradually from daylight(6500K) to warmwight(2700K). Here it is (practically teh same question, with comletly other answers like my topick): http://www.autoflower.org/f5/how-many-lights-2213-6.html#post40268
and here it is another: http://www.autoflower.org/f5/mostly-blue-red-spectrum-best-autos-2288.html#post40293
Or any magic with the T5 HO? I dont know what I think right now
It just work when the light is T5?
I'm search for an ideal light setup in the last 4-5 days (minimum 3-5 hour a day). I see many conbination.
I think I'm comletly happw with a full T5 set, but as i dig myself in the theme I see terrible thing with the price!
The T5 bulbs is not expensive. BUT THE EQUIPMENTS!!!!!! Oh God!!!
T5 bulb (2700K, 6500K the same price) maybe 6-7 dollar. need 8-10 60-70 dollar
Electronic ballasts 2X54W 25-30 dollar!!!! and I need 4 from it, its maybe 100-125 dollar!!!!!!!
moisture-proof socket 5 dollar, and I need 16!!! 80 dollar
If I pick the most cheap of everything it will cost : 250-300 dollar!!!! OMFG!!!! ( If I move every source I can I got maybe 400 dollar for this project encludeing seeds, soil, mylar.....)
( I think use 80W, but this plan failed, couse my box is 125 cm the maximum inside distance, but from 80W T5 HO is 145 cm the the smallest.)
Thats Why I think (before read ripster post) I try to resolve the problem in cheeper way.
I thinkI will use 2X54W T5 HO, and the missing light part from other CFL, or PL.
I see 80W CFL whitch give 5500 lum, and they price (encludeing, bulb, ballast, socket and they sell every whithe what we need (2700K/6500K)) 30 dollar / each.
It can be functional?
I think I need 420-500W, and 33-40000 lum. if my calculate is good.
Its a hard thing guys...

 

[glaucoma]

best of luck with growing my friend. new to it all as well so I can't offer advice but I do look forward to seeing how you go - keep up the research and I am sure you will go fantasic!
:thumbs: