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Day 35
They are starting week 5 today. All are flowering in varying degrees. Both of the PEs are maturing the fastest. Grown really big and thick with pretty much all budsites showing white moth balls.
Followed by WW1 which is following suit.
AAH 1 is still the largest plant but taking her time. Slowly developing her moth balls. She has lots of bud sites. Wont be surprised if its over 30 at the moment. AAH2 is much smaller probably cos she's the only one not topped or fimmed.
Pic of AAH 1. Not very visible bud formation compared to the PEs.
Fed them today and upped the dosage generously. Am expecting to see minimal burnt tips if my estimate is correct?
Fed 3ml/l of IONIC Grow + 3ml/l of IONIC Bloom + 1ml/l CalMag + 0.5ml/l Liquid Silicone and a few mls of Mangrove wood vinegar to bring PH to a little below 6.2.
Funny thing about IONIC. After mixing 6ml/l with CalMag and Liquid Silicone, EC is only a little more than 1 and ppm 560++. This is my first feed without the Fish & Seaweed Extract so I did not notice it before. But whatever...I wanted to go for a simpler feed before I feed with nutrient tea (Worm cast, bat guano 5-18-5, zeolite seabird guano 0.5-17-0.5, some molasses) for next feed or the feed after.
Probably gonna stop grow nutes after this feed. Honestly, I don't even know why i bother mixing grow and bloom nutes. The Growth Technology Grow and Bloom is pretty much identical. Grow is 1.8-1.4-2.6 and Bloom is 1.4-1.4-2.6. Don't think it makes too much a difference so gonna just go with Bloom after this feed cos they are all flowering and has been at least 10-12 days since they showed sex. Would like some reassurance that this is ok?
Did quite a bit of supercropping. Its pretty crowded now so every morning i gotta rack my brains trying to figure out how to arrange them after i bring them in on COBs. Making sure all bud sites gets light is not easy anymore.
Supercropping helps as i get a good idea where they bounce back after a few tries. This makes it easier to "arrange" them. I don't tie down. Depending on the size and strength of the cola, I choose a location to rub. Usually lower down so that there is more weight pressing on the bent spot. This will make it very difficult for the whole branch to get straight up again. Instead, the bud site will face up, making the overall height much shorter. Hope this makes sense. I needed a couple of tries to get it down. Sometimes, a smaller/ lighter branch will easily straighten itself so might need tie downs but i just bend them again. I get to decide which direction it bends and fall so its a very good technique to "arrange" the canopy.
Defoliation is also being done frequently. No system or counting either. Just plucking when I feel is necessary, which is pretty much every day. More for some plants than others.
Some droopiness after watering but they were perking up just half an hour later.
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They are starting week 5 today. All are flowering in varying degrees. Both of the PEs are maturing the fastest. Grown really big and thick with pretty much all budsites showing white moth balls.
Followed by WW1 which is following suit.
AAH 1 is still the largest plant but taking her time. Slowly developing her moth balls. She has lots of bud sites. Wont be surprised if its over 30 at the moment. AAH2 is much smaller probably cos she's the only one not topped or fimmed.
Pic of AAH 1. Not very visible bud formation compared to the PEs.
Fed them today and upped the dosage generously. Am expecting to see minimal burnt tips if my estimate is correct?
Fed 3ml/l of IONIC Grow + 3ml/l of IONIC Bloom + 1ml/l CalMag + 0.5ml/l Liquid Silicone and a few mls of Mangrove wood vinegar to bring PH to a little below 6.2.
Funny thing about IONIC. After mixing 6ml/l with CalMag and Liquid Silicone, EC is only a little more than 1 and ppm 560++. This is my first feed without the Fish & Seaweed Extract so I did not notice it before. But whatever...I wanted to go for a simpler feed before I feed with nutrient tea (Worm cast, bat guano 5-18-5, zeolite seabird guano 0.5-17-0.5, some molasses) for next feed or the feed after.
Probably gonna stop grow nutes after this feed. Honestly, I don't even know why i bother mixing grow and bloom nutes. The Growth Technology Grow and Bloom is pretty much identical. Grow is 1.8-1.4-2.6 and Bloom is 1.4-1.4-2.6. Don't think it makes too much a difference so gonna just go with Bloom after this feed cos they are all flowering and has been at least 10-12 days since they showed sex. Would like some reassurance that this is ok?
Did quite a bit of supercropping. Its pretty crowded now so every morning i gotta rack my brains trying to figure out how to arrange them after i bring them in on COBs. Making sure all bud sites gets light is not easy anymore.
Supercropping helps as i get a good idea where they bounce back after a few tries. This makes it easier to "arrange" them. I don't tie down. Depending on the size and strength of the cola, I choose a location to rub. Usually lower down so that there is more weight pressing on the bent spot. This will make it very difficult for the whole branch to get straight up again. Instead, the bud site will face up, making the overall height much shorter. Hope this makes sense. I needed a couple of tries to get it down. Sometimes, a smaller/ lighter branch will easily straighten itself so might need tie downs but i just bend them again. I get to decide which direction it bends and fall so its a very good technique to "arrange" the canopy.
Defoliation is also being done frequently. No system or counting either. Just plucking when I feel is necessary, which is pretty much every day. More for some plants than others.
Some droopiness after watering but they were perking up just half an hour later.
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Looking grand buddy...lovely canopies on all plants...shows that supercropping works well
Its really a combination of topping/fimming/lst and most recently supercropping. Could just be as easily achieved without, for all i know. I just really wanted an excuse to try everything [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]. Make this grow count, whether success or failure.
Looking forward to your update next!
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Appreciate it bro! But not even close to how your jungle looks! Let me know if you see any areas i can improve upon. Thanks!
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I won't be able to get my head into the tent!Glad to be watching
Beautiful plants bro.
About 40 hours in. I'm waiting for another 8 hours or so cos the pots are not dry enough for my liking. No foul smell detected so should be ok. I'm only worried my high temps will make it go bad. But only one way to find out I guess. Do i need to add more molasses just in case?
Putting the girls on some extra sun hours to get them a little dryer for the tea later in the evening. 1-2 more hours more than usual. Not gonna LST at least a few days. They are big enough to me and too many budsites than the newb in me can handle. I lost count at 24 on the biggest AAH 1 plant. I read that too many bud sites might make overall yield airy and small.
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Day 38
The last feed did not show any signs of nute burn. The stunted WW2 however showed a little tip burn on a couple of leaves. But she's like at least 1/10th the size of others. Plus her soil is hot to begin with. AAH 1, my currently largest plant is still significantly pale compared to the others. Will continue to observe.
Brewed a different tea this time. Thought a lot about it and decided on the below:
30g Bat Guano 5-18-5
30g Silicon Phosphate Seabird Guano 0.4-17-1.2
30g Organic+Inorganic Flowering Fert 4-16-16
The above mixed together and crushed (Seabird and flowering fert are granules and pellet form)
About 500g Worm poop
20ml Fish & Seaweed Extract
4 tbsp Blackstrap Molasses
All mixed into a 5 gallon bucket and aired for 24 hours with bubbler and airstone. It turned out very well. Much better than the last round. Nice earthy smell. Lostsa foam...black and brown. Can't believe i did not take pics.
On to the girls. Early morning pics when i had not done too much damage yet [emoji1]
After feeding and few hours of morning sun, I put them back on lights. Weather was too cloudy. By this time, they had already suffered quite a bit under my hands.
Supercropped really heavily past few days. But am most likely gonna need to let go and let them grow upwards soon. When I planned this grow, i did not expect them all to survive, let alone grow so big. I have a 5ft horizontal space allocated for 3 plants. I'm already out of space and some plants are still stretching. Quite a pity to see them so cramped up and not growing to their potential. I really thought i had more than enough space.
AAH 1. She is still stretching but i have done my best. Supercropped her front back left and right. Not all are bent to expose budsites. Most are bent to "arrange" them and/or cut height a little. At least 70% of budsites have been supercropped to different degrees. On some, I just wanted the knuckle so did not bend. Only pinched the insides. Not sure if it will work? Nevertheless, it will have to do cos there is no space for her anymore. She takes the most space and are squeezing others out of light cos she is also tallest. Did i mention she is still stretching? The most infuriating part is that they are all so straight and uniformed. So easy to just supercrop them all outwards but instead, i got to move them around in the existing tight area. Guessing where each bent budsite will rise up at. Hope that they each have a good spot to receive light is all i can do now. If i get through this grow, will do max 3-4 plants next grow.
AAH2 is much bushier but also smaller. Seems to have stopped stretching and flowering just a little heavier than her sister. No topping done. Only LST and minimal supercropping. She was stunted a little during seedling stage.
PE1. The furthest in flowering so far. All white hairs on buds. Definitely stopped stretching. Defoliated her a lot. Just anything that gets in the way too much. Can be leaves from any part of the plant. I don't discriminate. Lets see if it bites me back....
PE2. Pretty much like her sister but still some green left on some buds. This one, i pretty much bent everything. The smaller center ones were supercropped inwards. Outer ones were bent sideways and some inwards too. Again, space restrictions. She is currently very short. You can even see AAH1 shadowing part of her light.
WW1 is also flowering but not quite there yet. Did all the usual with her too. Not sure what to expect cos her only sister is a stunted version of her. But I do expect them all to be in full flower like PE1 in the next few days. Probably before week 6. Lets see if I'm right?
WW2 growing nicely. Apart from the nute burnt tips on a few, everything seems ok. Fed her the same tea but then watered it down with tap water afterwards. Just a couple hundred ml. Her soil has poor drainage i think so she does not get dry.
I know my pics suck. Even i cannot see what I'm talking about in the pics. I'll try to improve on this area too.
The last feed did not show any signs of nute burn. The stunted WW2 however showed a little tip burn on a couple of leaves. But she's like at least 1/10th the size of others. Plus her soil is hot to begin with. AAH 1, my currently largest plant is still significantly pale compared to the others. Will continue to observe.
Brewed a different tea this time. Thought a lot about it and decided on the below:
30g Bat Guano 5-18-5
30g Silicon Phosphate Seabird Guano 0.4-17-1.2
30g Organic+Inorganic Flowering Fert 4-16-16
The above mixed together and crushed (Seabird and flowering fert are granules and pellet form)
About 500g Worm poop
20ml Fish & Seaweed Extract
4 tbsp Blackstrap Molasses
All mixed into a 5 gallon bucket and aired for 24 hours with bubbler and airstone. It turned out very well. Much better than the last round. Nice earthy smell. Lostsa foam...black and brown. Can't believe i did not take pics.
On to the girls. Early morning pics when i had not done too much damage yet [emoji1]
After feeding and few hours of morning sun, I put them back on lights. Weather was too cloudy. By this time, they had already suffered quite a bit under my hands.
Supercropped really heavily past few days. But am most likely gonna need to let go and let them grow upwards soon. When I planned this grow, i did not expect them all to survive, let alone grow so big. I have a 5ft horizontal space allocated for 3 plants. I'm already out of space and some plants are still stretching. Quite a pity to see them so cramped up and not growing to their potential. I really thought i had more than enough space.
AAH 1. She is still stretching but i have done my best. Supercropped her front back left and right. Not all are bent to expose budsites. Most are bent to "arrange" them and/or cut height a little. At least 70% of budsites have been supercropped to different degrees. On some, I just wanted the knuckle so did not bend. Only pinched the insides. Not sure if it will work? Nevertheless, it will have to do cos there is no space for her anymore. She takes the most space and are squeezing others out of light cos she is also tallest. Did i mention she is still stretching? The most infuriating part is that they are all so straight and uniformed. So easy to just supercrop them all outwards but instead, i got to move them around in the existing tight area. Guessing where each bent budsite will rise up at. Hope that they each have a good spot to receive light is all i can do now. If i get through this grow, will do max 3-4 plants next grow.
AAH2 is much bushier but also smaller. Seems to have stopped stretching and flowering just a little heavier than her sister. No topping done. Only LST and minimal supercropping. She was stunted a little during seedling stage.
PE1. The furthest in flowering so far. All white hairs on buds. Definitely stopped stretching. Defoliated her a lot. Just anything that gets in the way too much. Can be leaves from any part of the plant. I don't discriminate. Lets see if it bites me back....
PE2. Pretty much like her sister but still some green left on some buds. This one, i pretty much bent everything. The smaller center ones were supercropped inwards. Outer ones were bent sideways and some inwards too. Again, space restrictions. She is currently very short. You can even see AAH1 shadowing part of her light.
WW1 is also flowering but not quite there yet. Did all the usual with her too. Not sure what to expect cos her only sister is a stunted version of her. But I do expect them all to be in full flower like PE1 in the next few days. Probably before week 6. Lets see if I'm right?
WW2 growing nicely. Apart from the nute burnt tips on a few, everything seems ok. Fed her the same tea but then watered it down with tap water afterwards. Just a couple hundred ml. Her soil has poor drainage i think so she does not get dry.
I know my pics suck. Even i cannot see what I'm talking about in the pics. I'll try to improve on this area too.
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