New Grower First grow- Indoor Auto White Widow

[Garage_Grower]

Looking good! Glad to see everyone perk back up, a day off was all it took! What’s all in CocoLoco? Is it straight coir? Or is it a mixed product? Easy smoking [emoji869]


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[Jrw1981]

Looking good! Glad to see everyone perk back up, a day off was all it took! What’s all in CocoLoco? Is it straight coir? Or is it a mixed product? Easy smoking [emoji869]


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It's amended pretty heavily. Easier to just take a pic than try to type it out...haha

 

[Jrw1981]

Day 19

Sorry guys, no time for a full update this morning....

But, I started to LST them this morning and it looks like one has shown her sex. I mean, they are fem seeds, but still nice to get confirmation. Haha

More updates when I get time. Y'all be safe!

 

[Froot n Fuel]

For the time being, I'm going to follow the advice of some of the vets here (@TaNg @autobeast ), and not touch the pH with the Sensi line. As I understand it, the chelation of the nutes essentially allows the roots to absorb nutrients well outside of the norms, effectively preventing lockout. For you veteran growers out there....If I'm misunderstanding that, please feel free to correct me.

nice to meechya
not a veteran grower by any stretch, but i've not long completed my first grow, following very closely the techniques showcased by your aforementioned vets. i was determined to follow their no-pH-required style, and to some extent i had success, but i have realised that there is an element of chance to get that style to work for you - mainly in terms of how your chosen water supply reacts with the AN pH "Perfect" formula. they also both grow in a lightmix soil, which is a relatively forgiving medium with buffering capabilities. not sure how your Coco-Loco stacks against lightmix soils though. PH is way more important than i gave it credit for when i started growing...i had a few problems here and there and found it difficult to get help with the issues because i had no pH information. i grow in soil, but i'm guessing your medium will be on the more unforgiving side.
basically what i'm saying is growing without the need to pH is a bigger skill than i had anticipated, lots of factors are in play and for some the stars do align...for others, pH can cause a host of difficult-to-fix issues.
all the best, i'll follow along

 

[jeffsos3000]

heres those couple files i said id send you man!

 

[Jrw1981]

nice to meechya
not a veteran grower by any stretch, but i've not long completed my first grow, following very closely the techniques showcased by your aforementioned vets. i was determined to follow their no-pH-required style, and to some extent i had success, but i have realised that there is an element of chance to get that style to work for you - mainly in terms of how your chosen water supply reacts with the AN pH "Perfect" formula. they also both grow in a lightmix soil, which is a relatively forgiving medium with buffering capabilities. not sure how your Coco-Loco stacks against lightmix soils though. PH is way more important than i gave it credit for when i started growing...i had a few problems here and there and found it difficult to get help with the issues because i had no pH information. i grow in soil, but i'm guessing your medium will be on the more unforgiving side.
basically what i'm saying is growing without the need to pH is a bigger skill than i had anticipated, lots of factors are in play and for some the stars do align...for others, pH can cause a host of difficult-to-fix issues.
all the best, i'll follow along

Hey there and thanks for stopping in! Funny you should stop by and talk about pH today. At precisely the time you were typing this up, I was researching some spots that seemingly popped up overnight.

Decided to start the first round of LST this morning and when I pulled my problem child out, this is what I ran into:

So, to me it looks like a P deficiency. No shortage of P in my nutes, so likely culprit is pH. Haven't been checking runoff because, you know "pH Perfect" and all. Let me feed and check the runoff. Standard feed after nutes go into water sits about 6.1. I've read that it has a tendency to drift upwards. Boy, did it! Runoff measured at 7.98! I don't know why it's that high, but no wonder she locked out.

So...to be honest, I didn't know what to do other than go back to the basics. I've read that adjusting the pH with Sensi products can cause more harm than good. I ran the GH Flora Trio for the first 2 weeks of the grow and everything was rock solid. So, I flushed with that. Each girl got about 1.5 gallons pH'd at 5.8 and low dosing of nutes.

So, honestly, I have no idea what happened overnight. All I can do is try to get the pH back under control and hope she decides to start taking in some of those nutes...

More to follow.. y'all be safe!

 

[Froot n Fuel]

lots of different information on AN nutes around, not sure how much of it is relevant to the low dosage feeds we give our autos or even how effective the self-pH tech is at dosages around at around quarter strength

always nice to have a rough idea of what kinda pH is in your pot

 

[jeffsos3000]

lots of different information on AN nutes around, not sure how much of it is relevant to the low dosage feeds we give our autos or even how effective the self-pH tech is at dosages around at around quarter strength

always nice to have a rough idea of what kinda pH is in your pot

yeah thats why ive always phd my feed water every time. the an nutes might have that ph perfect technology. but i always assumed it was designed to work when mixing full strength njutes. and not the lower dosages autos use.

 

[EvilScotsman]

First rule of growing mate. Throw the manufacturers feeding schedule in the bin and never listen to a single word they say. Don't know how they get away with it, drives me up the wall. Hang on I'll go copy paste something..

 

[EvilScotsman]

Right buddy I just wrote this for someone else so I'll share with you too. As your having ph issues I'll also point out that they can be caused by too strong a nute mix. As the plant absorbs nutes (or doesnt) the ph of the pot changes due to imbalances.
if your feeding correct doses, the ph of the pot will rise during veg then drop during bloom. To deal with this without all the fucking about you go in at 5.8 for veg and around 6.3 for bloom. That'll keep it ph perfect all the way as long as you've got the nute strength right.

As I mentioned, completely ignore what the manufacturer says. I don't need to look, I know it's a pile of nonesense lol. They all are. Here's how it works. .

some general rules for you.

Not an exact science but you can't go far wrong.

Feed wise, asuming they're growing properly they need 100ppm(NOT including the water) per week of veg.

4 week old plants needs 400ppm, 10 week old plant needs 1000ppm. Most strains take a little more during the stretch then level off once the buds start forming.

Once the buds are half formed you drop the Base nutes by half (roughly) and hit it with a PK booster.


Most strains can handle ppms a fair chunk higher than that but that's what they actually need.

Tops go yellow you up the micro nutes/calmag

Bottoms go yellow you up the Base nutes.

Brown rusty spots and you first make sure it's not caused from perspiration burn then up the calmag.

Leaves go dark or the tips claw down you lower the N which is in the Base nutes.

Tips burn is iether p or K I can't remember but if your not using a booster you'd lower the Base nutes. If you are using a booster then lower that.

As long as you keep the feed on the lighter side, up the doses a little at a time and stick to those rules then that's all you should ever need to know.

Again though, this is general guidelines you've still gotta judge it yourself.

For example, I've got 7 week veg photos that are still on 450ppm and apart from a little iron Def they're fine but it's because I had to keep them small for a while.

I've also had autos that needed 1000ppm by week 6 cos I made them go massive.

As long as you stick to the lighter side though the worst that can happen is some leaves go a little bit yellow. When they do you just up the feed and problem solved. If nothings going yellow then they don't need anything more.

Hope that's helpful for ya buddy.

Keep it green