Indoor FFOF & Happy Frog Seedling Comparison Grow

[killakill86]

ha no worries bro hows ur kids holdin up for ya

 

[Rebel]

Good bro! I'm gonna take some pics in a few and post an update. The newest NYLPD seedling has a purple stem and purple undersides of the cotyledons. It's that same one who's cotyledons haven't unfolded yet but the first set of true leaves is growing anyway lol Hope she'll be an interesting pheno!! I'll update with some pics here in a few! Off to check out your thread again! haha

 

[Rebel]

Back at it again... Photo Updates...

I'll start with the Snow Ryders...
<<<---Snow Ryder #1. 7 Weeks today. It's 11.5" tall. Seems to be taking off now as far as flowering. Hopefully she'll fatten up. We'll see...
<<<---Snow Ryder #2. 7 Weeks today. It's 15.25" tall. One pollen sack removed. No signs of anymore yet. Hope she'll take off flowering like #1.

The Assassins...
<<<---Assassin Female #1. 1st pic of her in her new home. 2nd pic to show her bushy growth. 3rd pic shows pistils forming...
<<Assassin #2 -- planted 8-15-11 -- 4 days old
<<<---Assassin #3 -- planted 8-15-11 -- 4 days old

The NYLPD...
<<<---NYLPD#1 -- planted 8-6-11
<<<---NYLPD#2 -- planted 8-10-11
<<<---NYLPD#3 -- planted 8-10-11
<<<---NYLPD#4 -- planted 8-11-11
<<<---NYLPD#5 -- planted 8-16-11
Notice the purple stem??

Group Pic.


Still waiting on AA#4 to pop above dirt. Firm grip below but delayed coming up and shedding the shell...

I think I figured out why they aren't where they should all be at this point as far as size goes... Light Leakage... I have been keeping the closet door open to let the heat out and circulate better... Like a dumb ass, I JUST now realize this wasn't the smartest idea. So, I have decided to put in an inline fan when I can and run a exhaust out to a vent I'm going to cut out of the closet. Should take the heat out and put it into the room which I can handle the heat in there just fine. Also gonna add a couple clip on fans or equivalent inside the closet as well for circulation. I can't believe I JUST NOW realized how stupid that was!! Something I need to fix asap. God I hate being broke!!

Burn on Buds!! :smokebuds:

 

[Joe Dirt]

I don't think the light leakage is a problem for auto's. My grow area is in a closet where the door is always open and it hasn't caused the plants to be stunted... a couple other things have lately, but it wasn't an open closet door. LOL How far do you have your HPS from the tops (canopy) of your plants?

Of course, if you're growing photo's, light leaks are a concern for causing hermi's.

The plants are healthy... you'll get the rest dialed in as time progresses.

 

[AndyBotwin]

Wow, those SnowRyders are lanky but they look happy. Were your last ones basically just one main stalk without any side branches like these are? Hopefully they'll start fattening up soon. :thumbs: And your AA sure looks like the short and fat pheno. Those little gals could be planted just about anywhere outside and nobody would ever notice them, at least until they caught a whiff.

As far as the light leakage, it shouldn't really be a problem with autos, should it? Lots of people keep them on 24/7 lighting, so they can definitely handle it. Though I guess maybe if they're getting extremely inconsistent light and dark periods that can cause some stunting or even hermies. But getting some air moving and better circulation certainly won't hurt, that's for sure.

 

[Rebel]

Maybe I worded it wrong... what I'm thinking is light escaping? Like they're not getting the full amount of lumens. Would this also not make a difference with autos? My light was 18" inches away now it's about 11" inches. I put my hand above their tops and it felt warm but not like it would burn. I'm just surprised that the light not reflecting back to the plants off the open door part of the closet wouldn't cause me to lose lumens. Am I wrong? I know what you guys mean. I did a photo grow once and I know you can't let light leak IN while it's dark but I'm talking about light leaking OUT while they are on...

AB to answer your question about the Snow Ryder... The first 3 females from the first SR run were very short compared to these two and I haven't touched the height of the HPS... Actually I did move it a bit CLOSER for these two and the seedlings and they are blowing the other 3 away in size. They did have basically one main cola and some bottom branching but these gals have branching all the way up on every node. That's one thing I've noticed about ALL the ones I did in the OF. Compared to the seedlings I did in the Scott's Earthgro Organic... The OF have WAY more growth in the nodes and at every node. So far only one male and one hermi. Any way let me know what you think now that I've been more clear about my question lol

The NYLPD #1 is 2 weeks old today (Saturday) is starting it's 4th Node and it is STINKY like the Assassin Female! Very similar slightly skunky good ass smelling weed. lol only way I can describe it! I hope it means she's a girl too!

The AA Female really is bushy and she's got so much growth I can barely see her stalk. I have trouble counting the nodes! lol I lose count!

 

[killakill86]

hey bro looking great i have a feeling those sr's are gonna start getting real fat for ya bro. u said the one nylpd is 14 days today right? see any signs of sexing about to happen? girl karma being sent to ya in waves bro

 

[Rebel]

Hey Killa! I hope your feelings about the SR are right! That would be bad ass. Tallest Snow Ryders and most growth and branching I've seen from this strain so far. I haven't seen any signs of sex on the NYLPD #1 yet. Yeah she's exactly 2 weeks today (20th). Just starting her 4th Node. Nodes 1 & 2 are getting new growth starting. I need to get her out of that little cup and put her in a bigger pot. I've been really thinking about getting those grow bags you got. Be perfect for the amount I wanna do in the space I have atm. Want to try a new approach! No transplanting! Straight into it's 10 week home (give or take). See if that makes a difference! Hey! This is an experiment thread/grow so I'm gonna have at it!! Thanks again Killa!

 

[Joe Dirt]

I'm not sure what you're expecting from your plants as far as size goes. None of us, who have limited experience, are going to have plants that look like DIRT's or FD's. But, the difference between how mine and your plants look, compared to FD's, is not caused by an open door.

When we transplant, we stress/stunt the plants. When you stunt an auto, you don't catch back up. You haven't had the exact soil mix combo you want, for various reasons, since you started. So, there are some things going on, but closing the door, and cutting holes in your walls/ceilings, isn't going to change any of it. If you don't have any reflective material or white paint on the walls in the grow area of the closet, you should probably staple some mylar on the wall around the area where you put the plants. You may need more ventilation... I don't know your temps and RH.

Want to try a new approach! No transplanting! Straight into it's 10 week home (give or take). See if that makes a difference!

That is the best approach to get the largest plants. A word of caution... unless you're starting with feminized beans, you may need more room than you're thinking about right now.

With photo's, a stunted plant can catch back up during veg and you always hace the 12/12 "stretch". With auto's, every hiccup comes with at least a small price to pay. But, if it's just a matter of not getting everything perfect, the price most often comes in the form of some loss of yield. It should just be factored in when our experience is very limited.

 

[whatsgoodie]

I'm not sure what you're expecting from your plants as far as size goes. None of us, who have limited experience, are going to have plants that look like DIRT's or FD's. But, the difference between how mine and your plants look, compared to FD's, is not caused by an open door.

When we transplant, we stress/stunt the plants. When you stunt an auto, you don't catch back up. You haven't had the exact soil mix combo you want, for various reasons, since you started. So, there are some things going on, but closing the door, and cutting holes in your walls/ceilings, isn't going to change any of it. If you don't have any reflective material or white paint on the walls in the grow area of the closet, you should probably staple some mylar on the wall around the area where you put the plants. You may need more ventilation... I don't know your temps and RH.



That is the best approach to get the largest plants. A word of caution... unless you're starting with feminized beans, you may need more room than you're thinking about right now.

With photo's, a stunted plant can catch back up during veg and you always hace the 12/12 "stretch". With auto's, every hiccup comes with at least a small price to pay. But, if it's just a matter of not getting everything perfect, the price most often comes in the form of some loss of yield. It should just be factored in when our experience is very limited.

Everything shows tiered transplanting is pretty much 100% stress free in photos and autos and it increases yield dramatically if done at the proper times (after a nice rootball is created) as the roots will make better use of each pot. Every plant I've ever tiered transplanted has had a much much better root system than a plant put it's final pot at the start for me.

It's one of the simplest things you can do to increase yield and save space. It's basically like bubbling water in my eyes now, haha.