New Grower Extremely low-budget grow | 40W | Delahaze |

[SUPERWEED]

really well built! You must be a construction master !! :kusht:
like that you build everything from scratch!




you do not be lazy like me!!! and just you bought a tent! like me !!!
One day I will build a real place and not use a tent !! "TT"


Again nice building !! :Clever Sh*te:


you are a great insperation that it is possible to do things cheaply and still have it look good and work ! :niceshot:"JM's a Hippy"

 

[ThaGreenBandit]

I'm hoping to pick something like that up, soon. You mind giving up the details? Cost, website, delivery time, etc...?

 

[Wienerwoods]

I'm hoping to pick something like that up, soon. You mind giving up the details? Cost, website, delivery time, etc...?

Definitely! Here's a link to GC where I bought it: http://www.grasscity.com/eu_en/jet-flash-smoke-system.html#.VA752fv4IuQ

The -25% campaign seems to have ended but it's still a really good price. I ordered on Sunday, the package was shipped on Wednesday and arrived next Monday. The delivery might be a bit slower if you live outside Europe but not by much for what I've heard. They ship stuff mainly from Amsterdam but they have some of the items in their USA warehouse too. At least that's what I've gathered.

The package was 100% discreet other than an orange "Breekbaar - Fragile" tape. Everything came really well packed and they even included some free metal screens.

Nothing bad to say, really. I highly recommend them!

Anything else you wanna know, hit me up
:Sharing One:

 

[ThaGreenBandit]

Thanks for the 411, Wiener. I been wanting to get my glassware built back up to what it used to be, and something like this would be a nice addition. I would love to get the STAX, but that $1000 is a little too rich for my blood!

 

[drgreen]

awsome man! only a few flaws..

1, being that plants have a maturity day of around 21days meaning until then they wil veg nomatter what light so might aswell use 18-20 hrs during this time to maximise its growth.. this means if u 12/12 from seed u wont see pistils for around 32 days but if u veg for 20 days then 12/12 then 12days later u wil get pistles to .. its built in the plants,

this is why when u take a cutting the plant must be mature if u wana just grow from 12/12 cuts, otherwise they take the age of the mother and if its only a young plant then it will take the lenght from its mom before flowering too.


and now dela haze is a known big ass plant heavy yeilder . so she wil grow bigger than normal plants but with a low lighting watage u may find deficiencys or yellowing leaves, as the plant wil drop most of the leaves to try cope with low light amounts and low energy,

can i ask what led brand they are? cuase some of the high tek leds are just as cheap in low wattage like that and would out preform china makes,

i love micro budget grows man so im watching this lol i cant wait to see what happens ive a few ideas to add in if ya wana hear cheap and free experiments from my agricultureal background of botnay lollol

 

[drgreen]

also look up ''the lucas forumula## the grow micro and bloom there ditch the gro its a watse ya dotn need it and go with the cfl guide on the lucas man its the freaking BOMB and u wil have less problems garenteed (13 weeks jack here 600watt 23 oz here on that forumal no deficiencys) google it its tryed and tested lol

 

[Wienerwoods]

awsome man! only a few flaws..

1, being that plants have a maturity day of around 21days meaning until then they wil veg nomatter what light so might aswell use 18-20 hrs during this time to maximise its growth.. this means if u 12/12 from seed u wont see pistils for around 32 days but if u veg for 20 days then 12/12 then 12days later u wil get pistles to .. its built in the plants,

this is why when u take a cutting the plant must be mature if u wana just grow from 12/12 cuts, otherwise they take the age of the mother and if its only a young plant then it will take the lenght from its mom before flowering too.


and now dela haze is a known big ass plant heavy yeilder . so she wil grow bigger than normal plants but with a low lighting watage u may find deficiencys or yellowing leaves, as the plant wil drop most of the leaves to try cope with low light amounts and low energy,

can i ask what led brand they are? cuase some of the high tek leds are just as cheap in low wattage like that and would out preform china makes,

i love micro budget grows man so im watching this lol i cant wait to see what happens ive a few ideas to add in if ya wana hear cheap and free experiments from my agricultureal background of botnay lollol

also look up ''the lucas forumula## the grow micro and bloom there ditch the gro its a watse ya dotn need it and go with the cfl guide on the lucas man its the freaking BOMB and u wil have less problems garenteed (13 weeks jack here 600watt 23 oz here on that forumal no deficiencys) google it its tryed and tested lol

I was actually planning to use the Lucas formula. This as well as the 12/12 right from seed lighting schedule are both done to minimize the vegetative growth since I'm dealing with a notoriously high-yielding sativa strain.
Also, I was thinking about FIMing the plant at least once and attempt getting a little more horizontal growth that way. The light fixture might take up to 1/3 of the vertical space and with the container taking up as much as it does I can't risk the plant growing very tall.

The LED lights are just the kind that are brandless, cheap (about €2.50 each, the €40 listed in the opening post includes the cord and both adapters), super bright and potentially lethal. I received all 4 of them today and checked their functionality. They seem to have improved vastly since I purchased the one I have in the cabinet right now. Beam concentration is a lot better and brightness is way beyond that which used to be.

I'd love to hear any further ideas you have!
:tiphat:

 

[Dr Fluff]

hey weinerwoods

I would have to say I agree with Auto Teaser, Grow your delahaze and take cutting after 21 days (when the plant has reached sexual maturity).

When your cutting have rooted put them into 12/12 also keep night time temps equal to daytime temps if you can.

The larger the variations in temps between night time temp & day time temps the bigger the stretch she will have.

Put mother somewhere else or just ditch it, sad i know but she has done her job and her genes still live on in her cuttings.

12/12 from seed is a grow method I have tried and works pretty good, but you still end up with 3 weeks of extra vertical growth before she will be old enough to start to flower , then stretch will come and add to that 9 week flowering time, in which time she will grow taller.

Tie her down and tie down good, you could try the coil method where the stem goes to the edge of the pot and then you tie down following the edge of the pot round as she grows, leaving some distance vertically between each revolution, support from sticks will be needed.

You will need some more light but if this grow is only for for a laugh , don't worry just have fun.

Just my 2 cents and like you said at the start of the thread this is just for entertainment, so do it anyway you see fit bro.

what ever you do i'm along for the ride. :Sharing One:

 

[GodAmJT]

I don't know man, I think you've got all the bases covered!! Looking pretty awesome, and I'm eager to see how bright it is with all 4 concentrated on the plant!! Have you taken the whole enclosure for a full "test" run with what you have?? I imagine the only thing you may need to consider is humidity during the early stages.. A veg is best had between 50-80% RH for the duration, and dropped to 30-50% during flower, so if you think it's too low during the early phases..

 

[Wienerwoods]

hey weinerwoods

I would have to say I agree with Auto Teaser, Grow your delahaze and take cutting after 21 days (when the plant has reached sexual maturity).

When your cutting have rooted put them into 12/12 also keep night time temps equal to daytime temps if you can.

The larger the variations in temps between night time temp & day time temps the bigger the stretch she will have.

Put mother somewhere else or just ditch it, sad i know but she has done her job and her genes still live on in her cuttings.

12/12 from seed is a grow method I have tried and works pretty good, but you still end up with 3 weeks of extra vertical growth before she will be old enough to start to flower , then stretch will come and add to that 9 week flowering time, in which time she will grow taller.

Tie her down and tie down good, you could try the coil method where the stem goes to the edge of the pot and then you tie down following the edge of the pot round as she grows, leaving some distance vertically between each revolution, support from sticks will be needed.

You will need some more light but if this grow is only for for a laugh , don't worry just have fun.

Just my 2 cents and like you said at the start of the thread this is just for entertainment, so do it anyway you see fit bro.

what ever you do i'm along for the ride. :Sharing One:

I've only planned to grow one plant. In a way I prefer to think of this grow as a test drive for this particular setup. The 12/12 element is on one hand my blind faith in the initial claim that flowering hormones build up faster that way making the grow quicker and the plant smaller. On the other hand I aim to sort of simulate autoflowering with a photo I'm interested in.

Lots of experimental aspects to this grow but that's what makes it fun!

The temperature fluctuations won't be very dramatic in the beginning but winter is just around the corner.

I don't know man, I think you've got all the bases covered!! Looking pretty awesome, and I'm eager to see how bright it is with all 4 concentrated on the plant!! Have you taken the whole enclosure for a full "test" run with what you have?? I imagine the only thing you may need to consider is humidity during the early stages.. A veg is best had between 50-80% RH for the duration, and dropped to 30-50% during flower, so if you think it's too low during the early phases..

I'll get to install the new lights on Friday if both of the adapters arrive on time. I also bought a small digital humidity/temperature meter on Ebay for €2. With any luck it might give me some indication about the RH.