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[Hansbricks]

Hey Gonzo, sorry to hear this grow hasn't gone quite as planned for you.

Hopefully adding a bit of tap water to your RO works out for you... I will say though that I've been using straight RO water with my AN nutes in soil for all my previous grows, including my last grow which was my best at 4-5oz/plant.

The pH of my feeds has always been around 5.7-5.9... I initially thought this was quite low for soil as well but haven't bothered to adjust it since they claim these nutrients are available at a much wider pH range and also pure RO water is what they recommend using. I never really had any lockout or major deficiencies by feeding at this pH in soil so I'm not entirely convinced this is your issue... but then again Tang says his nutes have a pH of around 6.6 with his tap water and we've all seen the results he gets so maybe this will be better for you...

Either way I think you should at least let two of the better looking TD's go 90+ days to see if they may still fatten up.
:Sharing One:

 

[F.N.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjGMysy2RKY. Hey Hans I found this is what sold me on ph perfect

 

[Gonzo]

Hey Gonzo, sorry to hear this grow hasn't gone quite as planned for you.

Hopefully adding a bit of tap water to your RO works out for you... I will say though that I've been using straight RO water with my AN nutes in soil for all my previous grows, including my last grow which was my best at 4-5oz/plant.

The pH of my feeds has always been around 5.7-5.9... I initially thought this was quite low for soil as well but haven't bothered to adjust it since they claim these nutrients are available at a much wider pH range and also pure RO water is what they recommend using. I never really had any lockout or major deficiencies by feeding at this pH in soil so I'm not entirely convinced this is your issue... but then again Tang says his nutes have a pH of around 6.6 with his tap water and we've all seen the results he gets so maybe this will be better for you...

Either way I think you should at least let two of the better looking TD's go 90+ days to see if they may still fatten up.

Thank you for your answer, Hansbricks. Makes me think a lot because, of course, I am not 100% sure I have the right answer.

But you use some organic food in your soil and you add lime as I had read in your older posts. Both might help a lot. Organic food offers some chelated ph independent food, lime rises ph little bit and here is the result.

It is obvious that AN offers much more usable food in very low and very high ph ranges, because plants look deceivingly green and healthy even when they have problems, but not enough to make fat buds, at least in my case. Well, I am not the only one, at least Muddy had experienced similar troubles with RO water and had stopped using AN. He had experienced classical defficiencies of too acidic soil and had gron in soe kind of light mix to. But I remember one grower made 180g out of plant in coco with some kind of well water, really slightly hard, far from tap but not pure as RO.

I have done decades of TDs already and had always finished over 100g, even with biggest problems, so I do not expect that I am suddenly doing something very different and very wrong.

I still run them, but there is no fattening especially on tap water one, RO are doing better. I have two younger ones watered with tap water and they also show no buds in late stages of growth.

One that is younger had been watered with tap also, but I had switched to RO/tap mix @ph 6,4 some days ago and suddenly it keeps vital for 24 hours, does not droop leaves at all. But older ones show no changes after same switch.

I will leave them under lights for some more time, but will not help much, buds are pretty much in their final form and weight. The first one, which did not drink any more is out, 35g dry. I just can not decide wheather to cry or to laugh. But two with RO feeding will bring a little bit more. They still drink.

Good luck and thank you again.

 

[Gonzo]

Hello everybody, here is some update at Day 68.

Two plants have already lost my hospitality, they will bring around 35g of dry pea looking buds. I am not interested in what they might bring me in 100+, such wasting of my grow room makes me sick. Those were fed with tap w./AN mix. Seems that ph towards 7 is really devastating, at least in my case. And AN chelated nutrients are hardly available to roots in such case. They seem to work much better in very acidic as in neutral ph soil.

But two fed with RO water and AN are doing much better, not really good but OK somehow. I do not believe they will reach 100g dry. Hardly.

 

[F.N.]

I hope you get things figured out and prosper in your future grows.

 

[DutchPassionTony]

yeah sorry to hear this one didn't go as well as it should. PM is on the way

 

[Gonzo]

I hope you get things figured out and prosper in your future grows.

yeah sorry to hear this one didn't go as well as it should. PM is on the way

Thank you Fairlynew and Tony.

Plants fed with RO water are still in game, hope will bring somewhere around 70 dry each, but tap water orphans have been cut. 35g each only. It is incredible what damage too high ph makes and how healthy plants look with AN in the same time. Deceivingly healthy. Big plants with no visible deficiencies but no buds. I would say funny if it wasnt so sad.

A week ago I took control over ph and now I feed with mix of RO and tap water so that I get somewhere around 6,2, hope that will do better. I do not want to go higher with ph because it rises in a day or two, whenever tap water is put into RO. If AN nutes stay in RO only, ph does not alter and stays at 5,7.

I will soon start a new thread with TD again and we will see how changed feeding will work. I hope for the best.

 

[Grim Reefer]

Sorry to read about your unfortunate events with this grow. Best of luck with the next one. Make sure to link it to me dude. Will you be continuing with updates on this thread or are all the plants gone?

 

[Gonzo]

Sorry to read about your unfortunate events with this grow. Best of luck with the next one. Make sure to link it to me dude. Will you be continuing with updates on this thread or are all the plants gone?

Hello Buddy,

I will finish this thread with some more info and start a new one or two next days, I will put link here.

But I am still confused with what to do, I think I will go back to Hesi, because my recent AN adventure is really something unexpectable and weird.

If I compare pictures of healthy, green plants that I have had in this grow to older, from previous grows, I see that I was able to get 100g on totally screwed (not really, but full of deficiencies) plant and I am getting one third of that with totally healthy green plant. And it is not question of time, because plant that has got 30-50g only would never bring any serious yield next week or two.

 

[F.N.]

I had a hydro shop close to me who had a whole shipment come in frozen. I do not know what the outcome was but they were stuck with it signed for it and all. they did not sell it bit shit happens Gonzo. Hesi makes great nutes If I were to change i would go with Dutch pro nutrients auto. It sure as heck works for MR GANGAMOTO. I hope the best for you in your future endeavors. I love A.N. nutes bro I have well water though that has proven to be solid good water for years and tears of growing outdoors. I would take it all back and use there money back garauntee and buy what you like bro.