I've seen one of those in action and they're cool. The problem is A - they're expensive. B - another 3.5kw on electric and C - mentioned above "water meters" - But! room climate is everything and I would imagine they're worth return on the outlay.
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My soil room looks like I cleaned it with a grenade!
One more grow then I´m gonna swith to hydro / DWC I think!Haha... :Sharing One:
Dont be shy about posting construction pics!! They're SUPER helpful and interesting ! I'm relocating my 6 potter to a new room that I'll be ghueto-geek retrofitting so as not cause any permanent damage to walls, ceiling, floor etc, I'd love to see some of your action and maybe borrow some preparation ideas!
BTW, CO2 lets you run the plants at significantly higher temps. In fact, IIRC, it is advisable to run 30ºC - 35ºC for peak production
Hi Mate,
I already put a couple of pics up but Im all but finished now. The next images will show everything looking great (with any luck).
Basically I created a 50mm thick insulated box, then play lined it, walls/floor and ceiling. The reason I used the ply, I wanted it all to look lovely and neat and clean, so I painted it mat white but the main reason was I have loads of fixing points for my lights, fans and what ever else. I can choose to move anything and everything around the room to exactly the right place. Before I was a little restricted with where I got a good fixing point.
Ive also put in 3 new ring mains to split up the power drawing from 1 ring.
Overkill again I know but this whole room is about overkill and having lots of capacity left over.
I can have my ceiling lights on ring 1, side lights on ring 2 and heater, air pumps and what have you on ring 3. Each ring is not being maxed out so I have zero electric over heating worries.
I had to ring Alien last week for a new manifold (where it meets the brain pot).
I changed my room round after I ordered the kit and my water tank was in the way.
Ryan at Alien was very good and next day'd me a new manifold no bother at all.
Next job is to clean my pots and fill the system up... I have to say Im a tad nervous, this thing holds a shit load of water. Fingers crossed all the seals hold nicely and tightly
Yea man there the bollox!
But like my man says below, they like plenty of power..
Dead right mate.
I was all up for one when I first saw them. Now I think I need to master what kit I have already before buying anymore.
I think I have enough kit as well... Do I really need to make things more complicated? Your dead right on the power and what happens when it breaks?
My way of doing things I would like to have one working and one laying in wait as a spare.
I dont think we need to spend the time or money just yet. Im sure there is going to be plenty of development and upgrading and price dropping before I feel the need.
Cheers
My soil room looks like I cleaned it with a grenade!
Halla Milky
See what I did there bro... Ja get me?
I learnt some Swedish for you bruv...
Yea man I feel you with the soil. Mud munching was deffo not for me in the end.
Its heavy as hell, buy it, carry to car. Get home, carry to room. Pot up and carry it again, then carry the pots in room and repeat it all over again once done.
Im no iron man... More like Ironing man and I have a glass back, I know for certain as Mrs True keeps telling me
hmmmmmm.......this thread sucks.......I'm green with envy.........and it ain't gonna go away anytime soon, no sir!
I am getting geared up for my first grow.....in a past life I was involved with horticulture/Aquaculture, and I saw you are gonna use the Blue lab monitor........calibration and how often?.........any reference gadgets?..........I never saw a 225 quid or so kit that could really be trusted, and given the shear quality of everything else you have put into this........just wonder.......any experience with Blue lab and are you gonna rely on this exclusively?.......
I am just like you, better buy once and save in the long run.........and better safe than sorry.........which is the long run.........
Can't wait to see this setup kicking ass..........ahhhh, any thoughts on the new GN HS1 light that Maestro TaNg, and others, shows are putting all other light sources to shame........just saying......with this setup I would think you quickly will garner the status as most honoured customer by the local power supplier.......if they are aware of course!.......... and what about your carbon footprint man........a few more top notch growers like you and heating will no longer be required in latitudes below 75 N ......year round.......for millenniums like!
Again, cant wait to see.........hats off......what I want too.........in my daydreams.........someday!
Corgy
I am getting geared up for my first grow.....in a past life I was involved with horticulture/Aquaculture, and I saw you are gonna use the Blue lab monitor........calibration and how often?.........any reference gadgets?..........I never saw a 225 quid or so kit that could really be trusted, and given the shear quality of everything else you have put into this........just wonder.......any experience with Blue lab and are you gonna rely on this exclusively?.......
I am just like you, better buy once and save in the long run.........and better safe than sorry.........which is the long run.........
Can't wait to see this setup kicking ass..........ahhhh, any thoughts on the new GN HS1 light that Maestro TaNg, and others, shows are putting all other light sources to shame........just saying......with this setup I would think you quickly will garner the status as most honoured customer by the local power supplier.......if they are aware of course!.......... and what about your carbon footprint man........a few more top notch growers like you and heating will no longer be required in latitudes below 75 N ......year round.......for millenniums like!
Again, cant wait to see.........hats off......what I want too.........in my daydreams.........someday!
Corgy
Blue Lab Guardian review and unpacking http://www.thehydrocultivator.com/bluelab-guardian-ph-conductivity-monitor-review/
Manual http://www.altgarden.com/media/pdf/Bluelab-guardian-manual-English-web.pdf
sounds good! found it for 206 Euro/158 GBP here http://www.growxl.nl/meten-en-testen/bluelab-guardian-ph-en-ec-monitor-continu-meter.html
Corgy
Manual http://www.altgarden.com/media/pdf/Bluelab-guardian-manual-English-web.pdf
sounds good! found it for 206 Euro/158 GBP here http://www.growxl.nl/meten-en-testen/bluelab-guardian-ph-en-ec-monitor-continu-meter.html
Corgy
Hey Corgy my good man
Thanks for the kind words and great useful links.
I plan on using 2 Blue Labs Guardians, I suppose I will calibrate them once every few weeks.. Even once a week. I used to calibrate my PH pen once a week but it was never out.
Ive used Blue Labs since I started back growing and 15 years ago when I did a bit. They were very good even back then and Ive never had any trouble with there kit.
Funny you mention trusting this metre because Tony at Dutch Passion warned about putting total trust in one piece of kit.
It makes sense to have various metres running, especially with RDWC. I have seen some cheaper multi metres on ebay. Maybe I will try one of those? See how they compare.
Ive still got my Blue Labs wand and PH pen, so these can be used as back up and conformation.
What do you mean by 'any reference gadgets'?
With regards to the new HS1 lights if they do the business and there is no reason to think otherwise then Im very interested!
Soon enough we are going to see various grows complete with these lights. I reckon the results are going to be very good.
Tang & The King dont set themselves up to fail, I can only see success here
Im thinking HS1's for summer growing to keep the temps down and roll out my e-pap's for winter.
Exciting times ahead at only 75 watts its going to be great for indoor growers. No power worries, electric theft is going to be a thing of the past.
Also in terms of the Old Bill, if you grow quietly and are not nicking power are they really going to want to lock you up?
I suppose they are but this is a big step in the right direction for many reasons. Oh yea and lets not forget the climate
Peace
For reference, I also have a BL Guardian. Love it to pieces, but good 'ol Tony is right as usual. If you have a trustworthy second unit to cross reference readings, you'll be better off. Having said this, I trust my BLG well above my other pens. Its only when figures go completely whack that I start worrying.
What do you mean by 'any reference gadgets'?
Peace
Sorry, that was my bad........shite wording.........what I meant was, as you say, another meter to x-reference. A RDWC is like growing all plants in the same pot........It doesn't bear thinking about......Any bad mojo striking.....like a few weeks before harvest.
Came across this, good write-up's on root rots http://www.420magazine.com/forums/how-grow-marijuana/72169-how-do-i-identify-prevent-root-rot.html and http://www.just4growers.com/stream/...truth-on-dissolved-oxygen-in-hydroponics.aspx
Notice this
Hydrogen Peroxide
Adding hydrogen peroxide is a common practice used by many hydroponic growers but is one that is seriously misunderstood. There are 2 forms of oxygen: O2, the diatomic form which can be absorbed by the plant roots, and O2-, the free radical form which is highly reactive. Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) converts to H2O + O2- when added to water. The O2- that is formed is not desirable because it will indiscriminately oxidize or damage healthy living plant cells. Also, although adding hydrogen peroxide to a reservoir will result in an initial boost in DO levels, those gains are short lived. Hydrogen peroxide is best kept in a grower’s toolbox for cleaning equipment and treating bacterial and fungal infections.
Corgy
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Thanks again Corgy my good man! Im very grateful for the input
Great links, Ive just given them a quick scan but will read fully and slowly later.
Interesting about the Hydrogen Peroxide! Not heard that before, I do have some in my box of tricks although never used it. Not sure why its even there
I did some reading a while back on root rot and thats why I went out and bought a decent chiller.
As far as I could see (back then) if the water temps are correct the dreaded cant strike. Another grower on here (cant remember his name sorry) recommended using a UV filter like this one.
I like this idea also, whats your view on these?
What type of growing are you into?
Are you using a chiller or something else?
Thanks,
Tru :tiphat:
