I am looking at doing autos with the biotabs with coco with the just add water method. Do any of you do that? It uses the sf instead of orgatrex. It says to use tap water but I am wondering if the tap water in Europe is different than the tap water in the US as my tap water is listed to have chloramine in it. I am new to growing and I want an easy method to get a few good yields before experimenting with different methods as the 1 I am doing now trying organic fertilizer in coco is not working very well on there.
Nutrients Do you use biotabs with just add water for it?
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I answered your other thread. Coco and Organics dont work well together. It is not your fault, it doesnt work and dont bother even trying. Coco needs to be treated like hydro, not like Soil. Read your other thread and answer my questions if you want help. Good luck, slow
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Biotabs are Organic Dry ammendments compressed...same thing. Slow dissolving Organic nutes are not compatable with Coco. Coco requires daily feedings with nutes. Plain water grows are not worth trying in Coco and I would like to help you so youncan have the complete opposite experience. Your first grow should be exciting and give you motivation. Coco and Dry nutes wont yield a fraction of what it should. Good luck. Slow
Thanks. I answered the questions you asked in the different thread. I do get what you are saying but I think that they made this biotabs lineup with the sf to work with the coco. With autopots you do not drain to waste so every day when it waters the plant the slow release nutrients in the pot then feed the plant right? Then even though the coco does not hold on to the nutrients with it re wicking the runoff up into the pot would it not then work that way on there? I have read many posts on how biotabs work with coco which makes you think that there must be something to it. With the dr earth that stuff was made for soil. I am hoping that the biotabs work better with the coco. If it does not then I will likely move to a different method or mix in some peat with the coco though I really do not want to use peat. I did look into adding biochar to the coco mix as I read that helps beneficial microbes and may make the coco work better with those nutrients on there. Is there anything that is not peat that I can mix in with the coco to make the biotabs work better with it on there?
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They will grow a plant start to finish...very poorly. Coco is not meant to be fed this way and it is by far the worst way to use Coco. If you are going to use Biotabs, Organic Soil is superior to Coco. Coco should be fed multiple times per day with nutrients...water only is depriving your Coco plants and they will develope multiple deficiencies. If you are satisfied witb your results, that is all thst really matters....but Biotabs and Coco are not going to provide you with the results that Coco can using quality nutrients and feeding multiple times per day.
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Sorry mate but you're dead wrong. With chemical ferts you need to feed coco multiple times a day but with BioTabs you feed the coco and the coco feeds the plants. Have you ever grown with coco using biotabs?
Coco does not have an NPK value, nor does it contain any additional organic matter to feed the plant.. You cannot "feed" coco.. Coco does not "feed" the plant.. It is not soil.. If you are using bio tabs, then the Bio Tabs (compressed dry nutrients) is what is feeding the plant.. Not the the coco. Coco is popular because of its ability to retain nutrients.. It does not provide the plant any NPK. Of course bio tabs will "work" in coco.. Is that what it's intended for? Highly doubt it.. Keep in mind that most of us only grow weed.. Companies like Bio Tabs make their money from, and market to, veggie and cash crop growers/farmers.. And they grow in soil.. You can use a flat head screwdriver to paint a portrait.. It will work.. But a paint brush would work better.. I think that's the point Slow was trying to make.. That yes, bio tabs will work in coco.. But they will obviously work better if used as intended (which is in soil). But again, like Slow said, as long as you are happy with your results, whether they are mediocre or excellent, that's all that matters..
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While I agree that it's the results are all that matters, it doesn't matter about the mediums NPK value nor any additional organic matter. The kit contains all the organic nutrients, bacteria, Mycorrhiza fungi spores and organic additives a plant could need. It DOES work very well in coco. I have only ever used coco with the BioTabs line and the only results that I've had that were better than using Biotabs in coco, was an Aquafarm ScrOG that was so much work I didnt bother doing it again. Implying it's not intended for use with coco is just pure ignorant. The kit comes with instructions on how to mix Coco with the ingredients in the box. Now why would they do that if it was never intended? As for painting a portrait with a screwdriver... if you cant get good results in coco using biotabs then that's your skills letting you down, not the medium or the feed.
I'd happily challenge you to a grow off if you dont believe me but it doesn't fit into my plans. You'll see soon enough though that coco is excellent with this kit.
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