Calling out bad Autoflower genetics/actors

[CannabisMingus]

Ok. This is closer to the wiki definition of "a domesticated, locally adapted, traditional variety of a species of animal or plant that has developed over time, through adaptation to its natural and cultural environment of agriculture and pastoralism, and due to isolation from other populations of the species." Thanks.

 

[olbobcat]

Actually, you could say it is an heirloom seed.

 

[TexasGrows]

Actually, you could say it is an heirloom seed.

I.was thinking this verr thing yesterday while catching up on this thread.

 

[DIRT]

Landraces are not wild strains, but are cultivars that have been grown in a specific area for many generations, almost always open pollinated. which kept natural selection at work within the given population. The Mazar i Sharif I'm growing for instance has been grown the same way on the same land for 700 years. Yes, these populations are disappearing because of the influx of modern genetics. That's why companies like The Real Seed company strive to keep these genetics alive.

I would say true Landrace's are wild and have had no human tampering.

A landrace cultivated in an area over generations by a tribe or other group of people would be considered a farm line...but I guess its a matter of opinion.

 

[GreenBean]

This is super interesting. Especially beginning around the 7 minute mark.

EDIT - sorry was a little out of it last night, and forgot to mention that it’s an interview with Colin of Ethos. Don’t want people thinking I’m slapping up random videos.

 

[BII]

I would say true Landrace's are wild and have had no human tampering.

People have been growing cannabis (and hemp) and selecting for certain traits for 1000s of years. The plants and worldwide gene pool lhave long been tampered with, are no longer really "wild" such as they were before humans ever started growing and breeding plants. The landraces have surely all been messed with, including selected over time for yield, potency, ease of growth, etc.

 

[stonerlibrarian]

To be fair there aren't many "wild" plants. Even plants that don't have utility for humans (i.e. like weeds and wildflowers) have adapted and evolved over many thousands of years to adapt to human urbanization and agriculture. I don't think there are many species out there (save for deep sea and deep cave extremeophiles) that haven't had to adapt to human activity.

Honestly some of those "bad" breeders have some good stuff occasionally (I got a freebie fastbud gelato auto that was super tasty), but without question Mephisto and Night Owl have been the best autoflowers i've grown. I got some sage scout curing right now that stinks up the whole house when i burp the jars. Daz knows his stuff when it comes to autos. Night owl is solid gear.

 

[GreenBean]

To be fair there aren't many "wild" plants. Even plants that don't have utility for humans (i.e. like weeds and wildflowers) have adapted and evolved over many thousands of years to adapt to human urbanization and agriculture. I don't think there are many species out there (save for deep sea and deep cave extremeophiles) that haven't had to adapt to human activity.

Honestly some of those "bad" breeders have some good stuff occasionally (I got a freebie fastbud gelato auto that was super tasty), but without question Mephisto and Night Owl have been the best autoflowers i've grown. I got some sage scout curing right now that stinks up the whole house when i burp the jars. Daz knows his stuff when it comes to autos. Night owl is solid gear.

My Sage is ULTRA stinky. And she’s still in veg. Stinkiest plant I’ve grown I believe. I’m fearful of flower.

 

[DIRT]

People have been growing cannabis (and hemp) and selecting for certain traits for 1000s of years. The plants and worldwide gene pool lhave long been tampered with, are no longer really "wild" such as they were before humans ever started growing and breeding plants. The landraces have surely all been messed with, including selected over time for yield, potency, ease of growth, etc.

It is impossible that mankind has tampered with the entire global cannabis genepool...not yet anyway.

Here's an example of what I'm saying and Im pretty stoned right now, so bear with me.

Lets say 1000s of years ago, a Himalayan or maybe an afghan dude is out on a stroll close to a mountain top, He stumbles upon this beautiful "landrace" plant growing in the wild and decides to fill his pocket with seeds..

Later upon returning to his village a few valleys over..
He plants the seeds and grows them
as does his family for many generations long after he has left for the afterlife...
These seeds would be considered a farm line or a landrace farm line or heirloom landrace or heirloom farm line, take your pick..lol

The true wild landrace is the one still growing 1000s of years later near that mountain top a few valleys over where those seeds were originally collected
by that dude out on his stroll..

I would bet there's a lot of untouched landrace ruderalis out there to be discovered and with zero human interference.

But like I said prior to your response..
I guess its a matter of opinion.

 

[BII]

It is impossible that mankind has tampered with the entire global cannabis genepool...not yet anyway........I guess its a matter of opinion.

Humans may not have actively "tampered with the entire global cannabis genepool," but they surely have contaiminated it! I don't think this is "a matter of opinion" at all. With access to the right testing, such as whole genome sequencing, genetic contamination by human-bred plants would likely be detectable and quantifiable. Perhaps, a way to test this would be to compare the genetic makeup of current "true wild landraces" growing wild in the same location (e.g., an Afgan valley) to samples from centuries or even just decades ago.

I would presume over many centuries (or just recent decades) that human cultivation has affected/contaminated the entire worldwide gene pool. Over time, wherever cannabis can grow, some humans have surely been growing it. Plus, pollen carried by the wind can travel long distances. The "true wild landrace" plants growing out there in nature have surely been contaminated by human-grown (presumably selected for traits/phenotypes) pollen over time.